yoyo's story

started to take fin a few years ago… I notice a limp dick, and got on the boards. I quit, recovered in a couple of weeks all was normal. Well a year later, I thought 2%, not me, it must of have been in my head. I started fin again. I got the limp dick again, but I kept at it. Thinking I didn’t wait long enough last time. Then I lost any interest in sex. I still took it. Then I stared a major run of depression.

I never suffered from depression before, so I quit.

one month past, two months… and still my interest in sex (porn, girls) is minimal. My erections are soft at best. Mentally i’m fine. I however have no interest in women, looking at porn. I can go weeks with out masturbating. Basicly I don’t feel like a guy. I went to my docotor told him the whole thing. He did blood test, said everything is fine. I recently told my gf, and thats a huge relief… I want to WANT to look at porn, to jerk off to women I see. I want it, the gut feeling is there, but nothing else. I am in routine of supliments and sexual stimulotrs. Anything to keep me going.

I hate this drug. I hate the people that told me it was in my head, i hate the message boards. I hate myself for not listening to my body.

I have faith i will recovery… maybe in a year… i don’t know.

A promising update…
i’m just going to be straight forward and honest…

i have been taking cialis for the better part of a year. Also I was taking Ezynte, ginsing, and other sexual helpers. I was still able to perform sexually on these. Thou
gh sex didn’t interest me… Jerking it to porn, my dick was never fully erect.

I started taking Tribex… and I also stating taking Tribulus. I just thought my T was way down. I was still hitting the gym. Doc says I’m fine. Blood work says I’m good. I still have no interest and no hard dick, no morning wood. This is going on a year now.

So i started propecia at .25 every four days.Not because of hair, but I wanted to be horny again. It was great, jerking to good ol Porn, my semen turned to water, then I stopped.
I also found Aspire36 along with cialis… And it work really well for me. I had a nice stiff one for 2 days. I like it better then cialis.

Still i’m not happy, i don’t like my job, I don’t like getting up in the morning. my gf is getting fat. I still feel like shit. Fuck it, i start taking anti depresseants every so often.

Now I got all this going on. My fat gf breaks up with me. I felt relieved. No more sex pressure. Then a old hot gf called me up, and I was around her, I got very stimulated. She is super thin.
I took a Aspire36 and fucked her. I felt great. My old fat ex gf calls me up, and I take a Cilias, and my cock is hard for almost three days. I thought the stuff wasnt’ working that well for me anymore.

I have in the past week woke up with a hard dick, with no helpers.

I also realise I am super depressed in my current situation. Not that I’m saying my sides are imaginary. I seriously want to punch those fucks who say my sides are in my head.

No… way. I love porn… I like jerking off to porn. I have no point… nothing makes sense. I can’t recall what “I used to be like” I feel thats gone. But I am more hopeful I will be able to fuck some chick with out preparing.

to be continued…

ill edit later for gramar and spelling.

Hi, can you go back and revise your msg with dates/timeline? I’m having a hard time following when certain events happened.

Also…

You got back ON Finasteride, even after being off for a year? Is that correct? If so, why?

Regardless, glad to hear there is at least some minimal improvements. If I were you though, I would NOT TOUCH any anti-depressants, they in themselves can cause a host of sexual dysfunction issues just like Fin. Which one(s) were you taking?

You may want to investigate diet, further excercise, and natural supplements like St John’s Wort or Fish Oil to help with the depression, if you feel it is affecting your life.

Hang in there…

Just to add you may want to post your blood results, because many doctors will say everything is okay when it’s not, don’t ask me how the system works…

Remember that testosterone levels should be in the upper 1/4 of the reference range for optimal performance.

Mew, I understand clearly what he wrote. Not everyone has the time to go back, be detailed, and edit. Read it again, and I’m sure you can understand what he’s done. SOrry, but just my two cents.

Makes sense to you cuz you are also all over the map…

he mentions taking cialis amongst other stuff…was that during the 2nd round of fin or afterwards when his shit wasn’t working. he mentions taking fin a few yrs back and then quitting only to restart later…how long was he on the 1st time? the 2nd time?

that’s ur problem Boston…u don’t look at facts…u just go on about how ur prostate is messed up…which u can probably attribute that to the big dildo u sit on for ur prostate massage.

just my $2.

It sounds to me like he only did .25 mg every four days a few times only, and all of this probably occurred within the month since his last post.
Personally, I think its a concise list of quick easy statements as to whats been going on with him, with lots of details I might add.

Now I wouldn’t go on criticizing the way people write. I had a 3.0 in college, and write really well when I put my time into it, but just not everyone is smooth on the keys… Thats just the way life is. I’ve met many doctors who can’t type with a damn.

I was just sticking up for the fact that not everyone can write easily, and elaborately in great detail. Eloquently said, such as Mew is able to do and so good at, I might add :unamused:

See, you are totally mislead already. He mentioned he got back on Fin using .25 every 4 days thinking he would get horny again (don’t ask me why but i guess he thinks it would’ve raised his T…odd cuz supposedly Fin caused the loss of libido to begin with and thus quitting the 1st time).

Regardless, sorry I came off like a dick earlier but seriously, quick concise statements don’t do anyone any good…detailed facts with timelines is the only way to correlate one another’s story to see what the common underlying issue really is.

i only read this forum cuz it’s interesting. i no longer have any issues. sorry, but can’t offer any regimen other than when I quit using Tea Tree oil shampoo my issues continued to dissappear.

Jack

I’m positing my exact experience, because there just isn’t enough stories.

4 year time frame. Major sides lasted 2 years.

2004, start propecia for 3 months, notice a limp dick, start some herbs to help with the sides. Quit because fucking the then current gf, a very hot chick was more important.

Waited another year, thought I probably imagined all the sides
Started taking propecia everday again, got sides, limp dick, and for the first time ever, lost interest in sex. I was nailing a few different hot girls… so I quit. Got on Ezantye to recover. I was back to normal in about a month or so. Ezynte worked really at the time. I would get so horny, I would bust it a few times a day, and many more on weekends.

Waiting another six or more months. Thought I could ‘beat the sides’ that maybe I gave up too soon. After 3 months, sides really bad. So I experimented with diffent doses, .25 every day. .5 EOD. Stuff like that. However, I had no dick, no interest in sex, depressed… thoughts of killing myself and random crying. I’m not a emotional guy, so I got off fin

Sides stayed… The next is over the course of two years and half
started taking lots of herbs and sex helpers.

Order cialis to at least have sex.
Was able to perform at first rather well with cialis. I didn’t care about it that much. Liked being horny, so I looked online for other sexual stimulators.

I was this way for a long time. I feel I steadly got worse. Probably for about a year, where I would get super horny because of the hurbs. Also I used Cialis to help me perform. After the first year. I got into a routine of herbs, and cialis. I was ok with this. Things keep getting worse. I had no interest in sex, my dick was a very sad dick. I started taking some T boosters like Tribex and Tribulus. Each 1 full bottle
Finally after just not getting any better I saw my doc, who did blood test and said everything is fine.

He said I might be depressed… I never saw the blood work.

I kept a solid 2 tablet tribulus in the morning, and a ocassionaly single ZMA tablet at night. With various sex vietimans to try to perk my interest. I was meaning to do ZMA every night.

*** now this is retarded but this is what I thought. If my Test is indeed low, and propecia bumps it up… maybe it will bump it up back to normal. **** yes I know. I start taking it for about less then a month with a .25 tablet every four days. I was still not into sex with my gf, but I looked at some porn and ocassionaly and would wack it. I quit taking propecia the moment my sperm became wattery.

moving on, I’m tired of turning my gf down for sex, or telling her i’m not in the mood. I finally confess to my girlfriend that I have sex problems. She says she understand.

I read somewhere, that some ED is resolved after consistantly taking cialis or viagra for several months. So I started cutting up my cialis into two parts. 2x .5 tables per week. At thsi point I was after anything that would keep my dick hard. I enjoyed holding my own hard dick in my hand. I enjoyed waking up with a big stiff erection. Getting a borner jerking off to my hard dick made me happy. Knowing I had a full erection.

I read about and ordered Aspire36, one full bottle. It work really well for me. Its cheap enough per pill, works quickly, and last about two days. I’m happy I have found this.

I have almost accepted my fate as a pill poping borner guy. If I can find something that turns me on, and something that lets me perform. Maybe thats the best I will ever get back to being normal.

One night, i look at my girlfriend and she is just too fat for me. I don’t like her, I don’t like being around her, and I certinly don’t enjoy fucking her. I also don’t like going to work, I don’t like going to sleep, because that means I have to go to work. I have life problems…

This entire time, i’m still hitting the gym, I eat ok… I drink sometimes.

A old flame calls me up, and she is super hot. She is skinny. For the first time in a while I feel a tingle. I’m getting aroused.

The end…

anyways… I think my body got much worse before he has started to get better. I would say at least under two years. I had a long period i felt my body just shut off my sex drive. Cialis stoped working, and everything was going down hill.

Hope this help. Two years is a long time. I hope its over…

i am feeling better every day. This ‘reconnecting’ I got it. Depression did not cause my symptons. My symptoms caused me to be depressed though. I notice girls again… in a new way.

My penis is responding again. I MISSED YOU

Its so great. I can look at porn, and jerk it with out pills.

This is great man!!! LOL… I Love that!!! Good luck bro!!!

Yoyo - That sounds great that you are getting better everyday finally. It’s been 12 months now that I have been off propecia but my libido is still gone. Super depressing. Its inspiring to see your recovery though. Do you recommend anything that has contributed to your improvement?

doing fine

Back history

Took Propecia, got sides. Check the internets forums who told me that my sides would just go away, and I should keep taking and the propecia pills. I will get over the sides.

I do and depression and thoughts of suicide.
I stopped taking the drug.
Mental state came back, dick never came back.

I also tried DUT once. Just once, and my brain went into complete slow motion dumbness. It was very very scary. I never took DUT again.

Over the next several years I am taking Yhombie and ED pills.
Went to doctor got blood check said blood was fine.
Went to a ED specialist, got shots, said my dick was fine.
Went to a head doctor talked some things out
Took vitamins, ED meds left and right, some times they help sometimes they didn’t.
Worked out, got in super shape, stop working out got in bad shape, got back in shape.

Read loads of bullshit research studies, and what not. Read countless forums. Thought about taking steroids, and looking to score drugs that would make me horning. Never did anything.

Entire process 5 years or so. My limp dick and low libido has defined me.

Early this year January I got fired, and my long time girlfriend left me.

You guys know what its like to finally be out of those bad soul sucking relationship? It feels like breathing fresh air again.

I started sleeping better at night, and I actually got the occasional hard-on while sleeping

I’m not saying my sides were a mental state or depression. They were (are) very real, and I had (have) a very real problem.
The feeling of trying to jerk off and not being to work your own dick. Or making excuses with your girlfriend why you don’t (can’t) have sex, or your “tired” and “just not interested”.

Maybe the physical sides effects from Propecia went away, but the mental shit kept everything fucked up.
I don’t know.

Soooooo…

Am I cured? I don’t what my libido should be doing at this point.
I feel I will never be “cured” I have a stash of ED meds and libido vitamins tucked away.

Understand that I have lived with this for so long, that I am apathetic to my own situation.

But I can jerk-off now with out popping some ed pills, or loading up on other stuff.

Answers to some possible questions

Do I get horny? Yes.
Do I want to fuck girls? Yes
Am I able to get a erection? Yes
Is the erection hard? Yes
Is my dick and libido like when I first started? I don’t know, its been so long.
I have not had sex with another girl since the break up. Which I would say would be another milestone.
Sex with out ED meds.

Ask away, and if I can help I will.

Justin

a final fuck you to propecia, and fuck you “experts” on hairloss forums. I hate you fucks.

Thanks for coming back to tell your story, Justin.

Please if I may can I ask a few questions:

  • Did you get shrinkage and bent penis?

  • In terms of % how much have you recovered?

  • How long did you take propecia for and did you crash?

  • Has this been a natural recovery, then? You have not posted anything about hormone supplementation.

  • I cannot quite work out to the extent you are still struggling with libido and erections, are you almost back to normal in this area then?

  • How bad did you suffer mental side effects (concentration difficulties, brain fog etc.) ?

  • Did you get any vision problems and did these resolve?

Many thanks in advance for your feed back

Cheers

Chi

Chi
I do not recall being upset by any shrinkage or bending; other than the normal big dick small dick days.

Back in 05 I took propecia for about a month I got some sides (limp erection) stopped.

In 07 I tried propecia again. I took the poison for about 2 months total. I developed sides in the form of a limp erection followed by a total loss of “feeling like a man” (want, desire, need to look, think, fuck women was gone).

Finally I started to have severe suicidal thoughts. I had a very terrible weekend where all I could think about was sitting in my shower and slicing my wrist. Those thoughts are completely not normal for me. It was at this point that I knew it was this drug.

I did not develop brain fog of concentration issues or vision problems on propecia. I actually grew hair with propecia and people commented on it. I did try DUT capsule one time. The effects were a complete brain fog on the first dose. It was so bad I never took it again.

I experimented with many herbs, drinks, and suggestions from this forum and other forums. I never took any legal or illegal prescription drugs. Not because I did not want too. Giving the chance I was ready to go the distance and experiment on myself.

It’s very difficult to gauge my recovery in a percentage or a comparison. It has been so long and this just became a de facto standard that I don’t remember what it feels like to be “normal” Where my normal is defined as everything just worked and I never thought about things NOT working.

More than a few times I have woken up to a hard erection, when before I could not remember the last time that had happened. Lately when I watch porn to self-gratify I can achieve a decent hard erection, where often I was unable to before. (Which is normal). If I was in a sexual relationship that would give me a lot more info on if I am back to my “old self” whatever the fuck that means.

Justin

Funny I just noticed my “Joined date” 07

It has been a long long time. I never would have guess this would have happened to me.

This is so sad

It seems to me that the only people that really improve with time are guys with just ED or brain fog.

Yoyo, do you get cravings for sex? or get hard from fantasizing?

Perhaps I am not making myself clear.

  1. Everything broke.

  2. Over the years my desire for sex returned but not my erection. I would get horny and want to masturbate but not able to achieve an erection

  3. In the last 5 months I have had some natural strong erections. Strong where I felt I could naturally fuck a girl with the erection. Not the half flacid limp

What changed in the last 5 months? I got fired from my job I hated and my gf of 4 years who I was
unhappy with dump me. I have no idea if that is relevant or not.

UK20
I am very attracted to women, and in the last few months I can get myself hard from fantasizing/masturbating.

What I am not saying is “Look at me I am 100% cured” Because who fuck knows. I am not and will never say the sides were a mental game.

Could be the physical side effects went away, and then after that it was just my overall crappy sense of well being that made my dick not work.

I have no idea.

Also I have not lived in a bottle the last several years. I have traveled, and had a active sex life. I fucked my gf in the LA airport of all places. I used ED pills and libido enhancers to manage. With internet pharm its actually affordable to purchase.

Please yoyo specifically what ed pills and libido enhancers did you use?