IT’S SIMPLE, OUR PROBLEM IS NOT HORMONAL. PUT THIS ON YOUR HEAD. JUST THAT. 
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I had total reversal for 3 months, it was awesome then all the improvements just vanished like a switch had been turned off again. What exactly did HCG do for the first 3 months is the million dollar question
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Thanks for chiming in Anon and Stung. My doctor prescribed me HCG 250 iu, too. Have you experienced any side effects from HCG? Thanks.
HCG can spike e2, I was getting water retention. I initially used arimidex 0.25mg (weekly) prescribed by the endo but after reading some of the A.I horror stories I switched to Calcium D Glucarate.
I have been taking HCG at the same doses for 1 month, I don’t see any improvement, however, I don’t notice any side effects either. I have only experienced nausea 1 or 2 mornings.
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Can you please elaborate on that point a little…
Particularly, did your improvements vanish at the same time you switched from Anastrazole to Calcium Glucarate or was it a different time?
Thanks!
@FinaHope Arimidex or calcium d glucarate where not the reason my improvements stopped, I have taken both on and off for years. The point I was trying to make was that after reading some people have permanently crashed their e2 from Arimidex, great caution should be exercised when using AI’s
As I stated the reversal happened when HCG was introduced to my protocol and the improvements lasted for 3 months then the HCG stopped working for whatever reason. Hope that helps
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Did you reconstitute new HCG or kept it in the fridge? Just asking because HCG goes bad pretty quickly once you dilute it.
And many times they come in 5000 IU per bottle, but if you only use 250 EOD or whatever you’ll never use it up before it goes bad.
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I used a brand called Gonasi which is traditional HCG and used a fresh batch when it stopped working.
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Did you get any bloodwork done? Before and during?
Also did you incorporate working out?
Lastly, did you notice the changes when starting/stopping the substances you mentioned used to manage e2 sides?
I lied before, got two more for ya - what were your e2 sides and how did you confirm they were caused by high e2?
I haven’t worked out in years, I try my best to have a clean diet. My exercise is just cardio.
I regularly get blood work and it has shown high e2. I must reiterate that Arimidex and Calcium D Glucarate had nothing to do with the HCG recovery as I have used both substances on and off for years.
My main e2 sides are gyno and water retention (bloated)
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Have you tested your progesterone levels ?
I tested it a while ago and it was middle of normal range.
did you workout more before you took fin?
Yes I use to enjoy resistance training and going to the gym in general. Don’t seem to have the same strength now and recovery takes a lot longer
For those who are upset that the HCG only bought you 2 months of recovery, look on the bright side. At least you got a couple of months where you felt normal. I tried HCG and had ZERO benefits. I didn’t even get two minutes of recovery, let alone two months.
Will HCG work on neurosteroids?
And if you have high normal LH blood reading can you still take it?
I didn’t really notice any sides from the HCG, compared to practically everything else I’ve tried.
My urologist put me on 2500iu every three days. Before that I was on 500iu 3x/week. I am seeing much better improvement on the higher dose. On the other hand some people seem to do better with smaller doses. It is possible that doses should be adjusted per individual.
I was surprised when he gave me such a high dose, but pharmacist told me he saw doses of 4000iu twice a week being prescribed.
I am improving with that in combination with ketogenic Carnivore.
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Have you tested your testosterone levels? Normally high levels of HCG would lead to high levels of testosterone, that is if you’re not suffering from primary hypogonadism (balls are working).
High levels of HCG can make the Leydig cells less responsive. Would you consider testosterone only?