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#48

The testosterone shots need to be split in smaller doses due to the conversion to estrogen I’m assuming, I like this protocol and I would try it but I would ditch the AI personally since it gives me bad bone pain and those can also lead to similar symptoms to PFS

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#49

I understand your frustrations with everything you’ve experienced. But you’ve also been having successes many of us are happy to see. Could you stick around and keep updating us on your progress?

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#50

Did you use it? What happened?

#51

Thanks for the detailed post.

What is “EQ”? Equipoise? Estrogen Quotient?

What is the function of Masteron in this treatment?

Is Aromasin taken to lower E2 level?

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#52

What brand of topical dht and where do you apply it?
How often?

#53

EQ is erection quality

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#54

Just wanted to elaborate on this

In men serum E2 is almost meaningless because 99.99% of the estrogen is converted from Testosterone intracellularly. The levels in the serum is just a weak indicator of e2 levels in the body but it is extremely limited in its ability.

You can have normal E2 levels or low E2 levels in the serum but in certain organs like the penis still be converting too high into estrogen which will kill your dick. With increasing E2 DHT need to go up to balance it. But again DHT is also possible to have different levels in certain tissues.

So by using a low dose of Test 70-100mg per week and a high dose of a DHT like a masteron you might be able make the DHT to E2 ratio optimal in the penis

But that might not be enough! Applying DHT topically allows for very high levels of DHT to reach the tissues in the penis.

So that’s my theory on why topical DHT worked way better than proviron and mast

I came off cycle and did pct but when I started using the DHT again my testicles shrunk and I started not getting as hard as I used to. It def shuts you down

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#55

So what’s your plan now? Will you go back on TRT and use masteron and dht cream indefinitely? Ive seen some people “cruise” on low doses of masteron along with their trt.

#56

Is DHT with prescription or is it some underground product that is not used medicinally? I couldn’t find it online. What’s it called? My TRT doc pretty much prescribes me anything I want. I’m in Europe.

EDIT: found it, it’s ANDRACTIM / Androstanolone and they don’t have a license to sell it here. Hmm. If I can’t have it I want it more now

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#57

Order online.

#58

Already looked into it. It’s not like steroids that are on every other site. Looks like two sources of only. Russianstar and some other. Both seem to have a bad reputation. I could order raw dht from China and make it myself I guess but it seems like a lot of hassle without knowing if it could even work.

#59

Did you apply DHT to the dick or is any area?

#60

I tried the Russianstar DHT gel/cream. It seems to do something but im unsure if its DHT or something else in it. I didnt do a blood test to check DHT levels.

#61

Proviron is a more guaranteed to be actual dht.

#62

Any updates for those who are currently trying topical dht?

#63

I tried it, doesn’t do anything for me.

#64

I’ve used both proviron and topical DHT in the form of androhard.
Nada

#65

How long did you use it for and at what dosage???

#66

Jeez uh, the androhard 1-2 pumps a day. Just made me exhausted. And the proviron I went to 50mg twice a day, even sublingually some times. The proviron def had body changes like slimming down, but actually gave me anxiety

#67

Thanks for sharing your theories - found them very interesting and consistent with some of my own experience. You reference coming off cycle and doing PCT - a few questions about that:

  • How long are your cycles and how long do you remain off-cycle?

  • How are your symptoms during off-cycle periods?

  • Are you taking anything to elevate T or DHT during your off-cycle periods (e.g., herbal supplements like tribulus) or are you completely off all therapies (both medications and supplements) during those periods?