I updated the OP but I could only post 1 image so Ill put this here as a continuation
but then I upped Adex to 1mg ED and my E crashed
At this dose I still had gyno symptoms. Somehow I was aromatizing in the nipples while my E was totally tanked. This is why I dont beleive Adex is the right choice for us
Damn your T was insanely high
1.5 days after 25mg asin, crashing my E
E is slightly coming bakc of. I did a jerkoff to see how the funciton was, at one point I got insanel hard then went soft again. This is typically a sign of low E
but when I get hard during low E Im getting harder than I’ve been in years. I’ll keep you updated
btw such dramatic changes within days just through manipulating estrogen are why I am convinces this is mostly a problem to do with Estrogen and T to E ratio
300-750mg per week? That’s a huge dose. What are your DHT levels? Did you add Proviron to the mix?
My post was edited by a mod. That was a dose range I reccomended to cure/treat pfs. A higher test dose would give higher libido and a better sense of well being but managing E will be more difficult
anyways I meant to post this this morning but I was not allowed to post
Woke up with mornng wood for the first time in years. this wasnt happening till i added in the asin
Day 3
woke up with morning wood again today again
just to be clear i was doing the same and more amounts of testosterone for weeks with adex instead of asin and had no morning wood.
my mood is starting to get pretty good now, feeling confident, stable, and generally positive
FINAL MAJOR UPDATE
I am back to 90% function. The anti estrogens were helping etc, the testosterone was helping, the proviron not really, masteron not really (i didnt use a high enough dose) but what was really the BIGGEST FREAKING GAMECHANGER was topical DHT
I believe its 10% in DMSO but cant remember for sure
I had some of it left which i bought of a certain website like 4 years ago and given up on. I decided to try it and I applied it to my balls, penis, and gooch area. I kept doing this and on the second day I got a spontanious erection in the daytime without stimulation. Something which hasnt happened for like 4 years
Its been 3-4 days of me using it now and my erections just get harder and harder every day. My dick sensitivity is back but in a wierd way I have way more control of when I cum now; no more premature ejaculation symptoms. Also orgasms are way stronger
Also, while the proviron and masteron didnt do this, topical DHT has allowed me to greatly reduce my dose of AIs while preventing gyno symptoms
Probably wont post here again unless I run into future problem
BTW this goes without saying but if you use this without a test base or HCG and crash your natural testoserone production and thus your estrogen too it probably wont do much for you. When I used before when i was not on steroids it did very little for me so I never thought much of it
This is cool and all but does that mean we have to rub dht cream on our junk everyday forever? Also seems not so good to do long term
That’s what I’m thinking to, true the results seem great but can you come off is the real question without reverting back. And also is this strictly helping only sexual sides and not other ones like fatigue, brain fog, joint pain ect?
Beggars can’t be choosers. I can’t tell if I will have to do the for the rest of my life or not.
But if I had to it would still be a million times better than living with limp dick
What topical dht are you using
I’d post the source but that’s probably not allowed and the mods have already banned me for a short term once before
If I post it pretty sure this thread might get deleted and I’ll be perma banned. Some of you might even accuse me for being a shill. Just look online for topical DHTs, I’m pretty sure you will find it. I’m not using medical grade I can tell you that if you’re wondering; not andractim. I have nothing against it btw, it’s just not what I had on hand. I’m not sure whether or not it would work.
Just remember, bare minimum you need hcg while using topical DHT. Especially in the gooch area it has very good absorbtiom for some reason lol. It’s a very strong androgen and will suppress you
Time to order some dht gel
Dm me if you find a source
Would using something like tribulus with hcg maybe have a similar effect?
I am glad to see that a third person, to my knowledge, has found topical DHT applied to the genital area to greatly improve sexual function.
For those trying that, I would recommend not to put it on the scrotum. As far as I know, the testicles have no 5ar so they may not require local DHT. I also get testicle pain even if a tiny amount gets there.
Obviously one needs to also be aware that DHT apparently has pro-proliferative effect (i.e. potentially cancer causing) on androgen dependent tissues.
I am going to continue the account of my own continuing experimentation pretty soon. One of the points I am going to argue is that excepient/vehicle (gel vs. cream, etc) makes a difference as different tissue concentrations are achieved.
A short response to some questions above - it doesn’t appear that this DHT application has any long-term curative effect in me. When I stop applying I go back to PFS baseline.
Fatigue, I believe, is a function of lack of libido. This is considered a controversial position which I am prepared to defend elsewhere. If and when libido is improved, motivation and drive will improve, in my opinion and experience.
Joint pain is strongly affected by the systemic amount of DHT in my experience. This is in fact the main reason why I started using it. My joint pain is in check for as long as I use it and returns immediately if I reduce the dose.
@Hemingway, could you please post a brief explanation of your symptoms and usage in the Member Stories category.
If you want to state the specific product you used, go ahead.
My DHT serum was from a website called russianstarpeptides
he has done some shady marketing strategies in the past and Im not sure I beleive him in the dosage used, I think its probably much lower than 10% concentration but idc because the product really worked and wasnt really expensive either
I would guess the testitcles defitly have 5ar because my sperm was definitly much thicker white before finasteride than after finasteride. I also produces more sperm volume
the testicles do contain aomatase, so its highly likely they contain 5ar too. the only androgenic tissue dht can increase the chances of caner in is the prostate or the semanic vesicles iirc. My prostate has defitely gotten bigger since starting dht which i dont really mind becasue it was very small before
but now that I know it works im going to experiment with the dosage and location of application
