I agree, but also acknowledge that much of this is a cruel guessing game while the the clock ticks life away
Hello guys,
I am brand new to this board, was passing by and thought it would be nice to share my experience.
I read that topic 3 days ago, for my part i was affected by the pfs syndrome after using proscar, had no sex drive or libido for the last ten years, flacid penis, almost inexistant erection etc
Started exercising (especially legs and pelvis floor exercises ) and also started tribulus 3 days ago without expecting that much of itā¦, and what a surprise first (70%) morning wood ā¦for the first time in years ā¦
It was quite strange and certainly not a āpsychological effectāā¦
The only difference with the protocol above is that i used a classic formula of tribulus i found in a nutrition shop called tribulus 2000 , they say itās extra āforteā but didānt managed to find the composition ā¦except for a mention that there is 800 mg of saponin per tablet ā¦
Anyone who knows how much percentage of protodioscin i should expect per tablet ?
Anyways i ll keep you updated about my improvement, because till that day i tried every recipe available here and no success,and this is the first noticeable result i got in timessssss 
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oh and i forgot to mention , since i really believe brain plasticity played a huge role in our condition by making our brain "learn to unlearn " how to get aroused or raising the level of stimulation needed to get aroused, i started abstinence since march and avoir any kind of sexual visual stimulation on the internet or movies,because i spent a lot of times trying to be stimulated by watching porn and it only worsened the situation by making my need to be stimulate raising the standards (ended up watching some pretty weird hardcore stuff to get a slight hint of excitation)
Btw again feeling way much better now as i noticed a slight regain in interest of just watching a goodlooking girl on the street 
sorry for myvery bad english my friend, hope you ll understand me lol
I ll keep you updated
Cheers
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Second time that I reduce the dose and libido kicks in.
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How long break between cycles is appropriate?
Did OP mention about this?
Iām concerned about the fact that tribulus was investigated about whether it has an effect as 5 alpha reductase inhibitor.
I think this means itās possible that depending on where tribulus is from, it may have 5AR inhibiting property.
The study is this.
Did youā¦ Read the study?
I know the result was negative, but who knows if the tribulus used in this study was Balkan and if other one has 5AR inhibiting property.
Remember tribulus from anywhere else other than eastern Europe contains low levels of protodioschin.
Thanks.
Did you ever have sensitivity issues or ejaculation without sensation
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Good news man, im going to try Vemoherbās Tribulus next week but im concerned to go worse. Because back then, i used some androgenic supplements and it made me somewhat worseā¦
What is your other improvements? What about orgasm intensity, semen volume and libido!?
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Was wondering what you all use for an aromotase inhibiter? Iāve been using a prescription med but it is so expensive
Hello,
Yes, except for some very rare exception my penis was nothing more than some rubber part with no sensitivity for the last decade ! as for the semen it was some watery stuff with no consistence at all except for the last year when i started exercising, i started to have frome times to times almost normal ejaculation but always with an extreme tiredness sensation after thatā¦as if all my stamina went off it was a real nightmareā¦,
It has been one year when i decided to hit the gym seriously and practice sexual abstinence by avoiding all the things i used to watch to try to get a very slight bit of excitation, that it started to get better concerning the semen ā¦(still no erection ā¦and a lack of sensationā¦)
(By the way I remember that i had some very rare exception concerning the erection, when i took some anti depressant ā¦, it was as if for one day i was totally normal then it went back to the nightmarish situationā¦)
Now i have an almost normal semen volume, quite reasonable, not worried about it anymore at all, it is a really huge relief for me , being sterile would have been the worst thing i guess for me considering how much i wish to have kids with my partnerā¦
Ok so this morning again morning wood not as intense as the first day but with the good old sensation and morning sexual āfantasiesā thoughts, i am kind of even rediscovering the body of my partner, finding her attractive or getting aroused by just the sight of her legsā¦, it is so strange as if i was in a coma for yearsā¦
For the semen since i am in my abstinence cycle i canāt tell you if it did change anything lately , I still have one week to go before "checking "it but the sensation is definitely back, i woke with my hand i my ā¦well you knowā¦, and had hard times not masturbating myself ā¦my mind screaming ājust do itā lol
I willl let you know as soon as i ll do it, hope i ll see some improvement there too
Guys i really think our condition as multiple dimension , and what i learned of that decade of nightmare is that , pfs hits us one multiple dimension what i mean is from brain plasticity , to insensitivation of androgen receptors , it messes us on multiple sides of our brain.
Dunno for you but in the first years i was so desperatly looking for stimulation to revive my sexual activity , i develloped some really strange habits , such as watching hardcore porn, taking substance like cialis, viagra, forcing myself whit no libido no pleasure at all, i teached my brain to work that way.
It was like Teaching the brain a new messed up form of sexuality, getting him used to that while i should have let him āresetā or force his way to my old selfā¦, you have to consider that pfs is a very hard condition but you can have most of the same symptoms of the PFS by just being an addict to porn (wich cause a desensitivation and that most of us use to try to get a slight hint of arousal)
I watched a tedtalk about a research on brain plasticity and porn, read comments on a forum, and was scared to death since i noticed most used experienced almost the same issues except for the fatigue, brain fog, lack of semen ā¦(the purely biological issues).
Thatās when i knew i would have to take the āno easy roadā hitting myself on multiple dimension to have a clear view of the causes, in other words a lot of physical activity to be sure it was not coming form a lack of cardiovascular strength,(lot of running , squats and pelvic exercises, but also strength exercises to raise my testo), a lot of psychological training : abstinence, being positive and as equilibrate as i can , and of course being as complete as i can in my food regimenā¦
In other words i try to be as "clean " as i can on all those dimension to be sure to not miss the real origin of that curse, was it low testosterone ? androgen receptor insensitivity ?, brain plasticity that thaught me impotency because of finasteride shutting down my libido for a while and me trying to have an āarticialā one anyway with artificial stimulation ?, a lack of blood pressure ?
To make it short (lol) i think now i start to see where it comes from for me, i guess it comes from that androgenic receptor insensitivity thing, and that explain why tribulus works for me and as more effect than a shoot of testerone for me ā¦
Ok guys hope i have not messed your brain with my awful english lol do not loose hope guys fear and despair are the greatest allies of pfs, recovering is possible even after a decade, believe me guys i was in the worst condition possible ā¦oh and by the way i am 44 so for all of my generation trying to recover keep faith and hope
I ll keep you updated about my imprvements
God bless yall
Cheers
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Thanks for the reply man. Do you mind elaborating on what pelvic floor exercises you did?
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How you guys doing? Any updates on Tribulus cycles?
Just started another cycle yesterday no improvements so far. Iāll make an update next week.
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Still just hanging out. Giving time for hormones to balance out but morning wood is pretty consistent. I believe there is a point of diminishing returns. Plus, had a deadline at work pushed up so I literally cannot afford to feel like shit on cycle for the time being!
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How many pills you take and what brand? What is your cycles look like. Im going to do the cycles next week with Vemoherb. Thx.
Iāve been doing 2-3 pills a day I upped the dose to 5 pills the last time I did my cycle but felt shitty afterwards so I went back down to 3 max per day but always do 2 at least. Iām using mediherb still.
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