Update: still completely recovered, raging libido for the last four years

Personally I dont buy into the notion about harvesting the stems and leaves only for purity, I think that protodioscin is protodioscin. I think the thing that might be causing people to crash is simply that the tribulus they are using might be too potent for the density of their androgen receptors. I mean of course there are good brands and bad brands of tribulus out there, but I dont think that mediherb is the best brand of tribulus out there. It feels really weak to me and like I said, this is completely consistent with its labeling as well. It only has approximately 250 mg of tribulus plant matter and 100 mg of protodioscin, this is a pretty small amount compared to other brands of tribulus on the market.

I’ve only been doing this protocol for two weeks, its too early to say. All I can say at this point is that I don’t feel anything from the mediherb brand (when I take three tablets of it I think I can feel something but its subtle), but I can definitely feel just one pill of the tribX90 brand.

Like I said though, I suspect that ultimately all of this comes down to individual androgen receptor density. In the past before I discovered the utility of soy for downregulating the androgen receptors I was very sensitive to tribulus supplements, I could take just 1/4 of a pill and that would be plenty to give me a good effect, if I took the whole pill then it would worsen my PFS symptoms, however after taking soy (and downregulating my androgen receptors) I can now take an entire pill of tribulus (or even three pills) and feel fine. I think people that respond poorly to tribulus probably just have too much androgen receptor upregulation.

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are you japanese?
if so,i want to converse in" japanese forum",please

I gotta say I have the same experience. The Swedish Supplements brand states it has 520mg protodioscin per 2 tablets. I felt something from just popping one of those but now much from just one of the mediherb.

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Is this just red might or also NIR?

Potency of the tribulus also varies on extraction method. i can agree that mediherb is overhyped. We should drop that idea, that it’s somehow magical brand. Mediherb are probably very happy that we are spending money for their overpriced tribulus.

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Just for awareness, as discussed here Baylor study delayed again

There’s at least one case of somebody with pfs who experienced a worsening after eating large amounts of asparagus.

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sorry, I’m not japanese :frowning:

oh, I see.
by the waydo you see japanese in this website?

And check this full list of tribulus benefits. It’s very questionable whether it increase androgens, because many studies have showed it has no effect on increasing T or DHT.

Hey man! , The hole thing is a bit up and down but also very interesting. My sleep is a bit worse compared to a couple of weeks but way better than before anyway. Worse is almost the wrong word for it, I can get like 6 hours or more if I’m waking up in the night. it’s like my body constantly fluctuating.It’s very interesting actually, here is what happens:

  • I get goosebumps alot, specially when I’m hearing a song, listen to an emotional story etc. This didn’t happened alot after I got PFS.

  • My muscles constantly changing. Getting stiff, and big and then suddenly soft and week, but the fluctuating keeps pushing my body strength and stamina a little better. At least that’s what I think for the moment.

  • My hair on my body and my beard fluctuate also,. During my day the hair on my body changes to thick and more color to thin and with a grey tone. This changes regularly and it’s completely true even if it’s sounds werd. All and all its growing way faster and thicker.

  • my erections have also pushed some, and just now I managed to get fully erected during two masturbation sessions

*Hands and fingers changes in sizes, sometimes they are lean and almost childish and sometimes they are are big man hands with dry skin between my thumb and index finger. Dry skin was standard in my before-life.

*I’m also getting better keeping Eye contact with people and the response I’m general is awesome, got some new friends last weekend and I’m feeling much more social.

The big question is how I’m feeling a year from now? I have no idea but bare in mind Im had/having a severe PFS case were my erections ( and specially size) had reversed back, for a day or two, in like 5-10 times in 7 years. I think alot of us have good and bad periods but I’m having like a bad hour and then back to good.

Finally I just got a flu. I can’t remembered last time I experienced that.

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Sorry but hands and fingers change sizes? Are you god damn serious? How is that medically even possible… can you give some explanation?

Yes, my fingers changes and turns. My skins gets way loose and then fills upp and feels filled and bigger. For example my index finger gets swollen and turns some and then goes back. I even had a doctor confirmed changes back and forth on my index finger. Do you really think I’m not serious?

It doesn’t increase testosterone, but this doesn’t mean it has no benefits.
The key is that Tribulus sensitizes androgen receptors and its effect in libido has been proven.

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I got what I call a ‘sour headcahe’ from it. Happens/happened from lots of stress or too much masturbation/sex or tribulus, but is improving slowly on its own, although HUGELY improves on Saint Johns Wort (plus a salad of other supps.)

I could tolerate the trib better after a run of broccomax, which destroys ARs, so maybe as has been said here (forget who) ARs and over expressed and that’s my/part of my own issues.

Tried trib for a week, my reaction is the same as the last time i tried it. My penis is getting rubbery feeling and my libido decreasing, weaker erection.

Do you able to recover your baseline back after stopping the Tribulus?

Yes, may take few days to a week.

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What brand did you take?

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Hey you should take the survey bro

I know it’s not the right place to ask this but, has anyone noticed th odourless semen problem? I just relized that my semen has no smell. It had a chlorine like smell back then. Has anyone experience or realize this before?

Something must be wrong in our prostate process.