I have take a look at that, seems extremly expensive for the amount provided but I will definetly try that in the future.
Thats probably its produced by other compound that is not protodioscin in bad tribulus branches, that it horrible to people with PFS as you can have overdose of Estrogen. Protodioscin is the key.
If is possible that protodioscin can reverse the epigenetic due Finasteride, hey… I don’t care if that product is expensive or it worth to try it. the only problem is that the pharma maybe it will not going to sell it to us directly?
I believe that until those neuro-active steroid are not stabilized to normal values we are going to be stuck with PFS.
You cannot buy from sites like that if you’re not a lab or a researcher, and it is also extremely expensive for a small amount. On the other hand you may be able to source it from China if you were a gambling man but that is somewhat risky…
@Apr1989; Long time lurker and PFS sufferer for 15 years now. I would really like to get in touch with you on your protocol as I will try to duplicate it. Hopefully you read this 
A. Protodioscin (PTN), a common saponin from T. terrestris, may stimulate nitric oxide (NO) and other mediators to modulate central dopaminergic activity and libido. PTN may also be converted to DHEA, which is capable of inhibiting GABA signaling, therefore promoting improvements in sexual function. B. The relationship between PTN and testosterone (TST), of stimulation or direct conversion, is still unknown, however, in vivo models indicates that T.terrestris may influence concentrations of TST and C. dihydrotestosterone (DHT). PubChem compound database codes: CID=441891 (PTN); CID=6013 (TST) and CID=10635 (DHT). Adapt
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I am on day 1 of my first “off” cycle of tribulus, after a 9 day on cycle. During that I did 3 days of 1 tab, 3 days of 2 tabs, 3 days of 1 tab, off. I have decided that, based on the suggestion of others that the off cycle should be at least a few days and around half the length of the on cycle, I am going to do 9 days on and 5 days off cycles, so they are exactly two weeks. If anyone thinks this is unwise, please let me know.
So far, I feel like I have noticed the following changes, although I am not saying unequivocally that these are due to tribulus because I am cautious about the placebo effect and psychosomatic responses. All of the below changes are minor so far.
Good:
Fuller testicles, less fluctuation in size
Noticing women a bit more, being attracted to more women (standards lowering / libido increasing)
Oilier skin on my face
Bad:
Sweating more
Sometimes feeling on edge
Stumbling on words has returned to a minor extent (I had that last year but it seemed to go away)
I asked previously on this thread (5 days ago) if anyone had any thoughts on the dosage I am on based on the brand I am using. I am still keen for input on that.
I will begin my second cycle on Sunday and am planning the following tapering pattern:
Day 1+2 = 1 tablet
Day 3+4 = 2
Day 5 = 3
Day 6+7 = 2
Day 8+9 = 1
One last thing to note, I have not really managed to abstain from masturbation during the first cycle. I find it a bit of a compulsion on the basis of wanting to know if I am any better off than yesterday. I know this is not helpful and I am going to really try to abstain.
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Guys where can I order the right brand and quality tribulus from in the US?
Its sold out on Amazon for the brand that OP uses, any other links?
Look up sportfood tribulus on amazon.
Medi Herb Tribulus?
So, just to give everyone a heads up; I’ve completed two cycles of tribulus so far starting in March with about a week break inbetween. My experience so far is as follows: First couple days on, orgasms seem to feel more intense, dick tends to stay fuller. After the first couple days, things seem to even out where I don’t really notice many benefits. During the off-cycle, I’ve noticed I actually seem to regress a bit - and then something interesting happens; It seems about 2-3 weeks post cycle I actually start to ramp up in very natural, consistent feeling way.
Fast forward to today, I’ve noticed my dick has started to look MUCH more like it did pre-fin. II realized have a habit of avoiding looking at my dick (i’m sure i’m not alone here) because I’m sick of looking at how narrow, bent and shrunken it’s become, but I took a peak in the shower and looked down and the flacid state of my dick legit is starting to look like like my actual cock that I remember and love.
Also, orgasms are finally getting to be consistently good again. Like…really good. And the refractory period seems to be lessening.
The odd thing is that the sensation when touching it doesn’t seem to be pre-fin quite yet and as a result the actual act of sex isn’t quite what it used to be still. I don’t know if it’s a coincidence/placebo/ect but thought I’d keep you guys updated because I’m getting pretty giddy about the possibility of returning to normal. I’m still taking 5mg of cialis once or twice a week just to maintain good bloodflow and keep my peyronie’s from worsening. At some point hopefully soon I’m going to try to cut that out entirely and see if my condition is stable.
Also, I think I mentioned in my post that I forewent Medi herb and went with the Vemo herb tribulus. I saw a chart showing the amount of protodioscin concentrations and vemo was by far the greatest. If there is something special about protodioscin as it relates to our condition, it makes sense to only fuck with the ones with the most potent active ingredient.
Will keep you guys posted, hoping it is not a fluke.
EDIT: Just kidding, I’m back to my normal shitty self! Heartbreaking. (6/03/19)
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That’s pretty muchy experience so far, except it takes 3-7 days after stopping for the ramp up to occur for myself. But obviously that’s gonna vary. I’m currently day 3 in my 2nd cycle. The after effects of the first were very noticeable
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Are you using MediHerb Tribulus or others? Mediherb is the only one that has good quantitits of protodioscin
Not true
Yes all other use shitty plants and shitty parts, the only way to have a good tribulus is from the leafs of bulgarian tribulus, that the creator used. You dont know what you are talking about.
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Nice going!
You doing cycles as per Apr’s or your own? Sorry if you’ve already posted that btw.
Hi Guys,
I am at day 3 on the 3rd off week.
I am doing 8 days on the tribulus followed by 8 days off.
So far what i have experienced seems similar to you guys. Although i am using the vemoherb bulgarian tribulus instead of the brand the OP suggested because i cannot purchase it where i live…
I am now at the point where i can more or less enjoy masturbation or sex. i had major problems with premature ejaculation which i never had before finasteride. that seem to have improved with the tribulus. Although i do not know to what extent these were psychosomatical…
I recall the OP suggesting abstaining from masturbation. I went months on nofap during the last year and have slowly reintroduced masturbation some weeks ago.
How often do you guys ejaculate? i am confused how much seems to be tolerable during the tribulus cycling and to what extent abstaining for too lang is counterproductive.
Thank you for your time
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I think once in 1.5 weeks is legit. Also i wanna ask something to you and all, do you guys experience quick and uncontrollable ejaculations? Its like premature ejaculation but different, there is also a negative addition: no build-up to orgasm?
I mean back then you had to fasten up the in and outs and increase the intensity of masturbation/sex in order to reach the intense orgasm, it was like, think of a mountain, a line to reach the orgasm. Now, its like a stick on a parallel surface, orgasm goes to the top lightfast and ends quickly. Also uncontrollable and dull. No dopamine rush, less good feeling under down there, i mean muscle contractions.
Do you guys be able to cure this? Is this what you also call premature ejaculation?
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