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You’re in denial Joe.

If it looks like a rat, smells like rat…its rat.

Where we go from here. Don’t know.

I am in denial?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Sorry Joe. Just being a smart ass. I’ve accepted this disease. I’m no longer expecting a recovery. Keep up the good fight.

I still haven’t accepted this and it’s been over a year. Acceptance is maybe easier if you haven’t been sexually decimated. I know I’m in trouble for probably the rest of my life but I can’t live with it.

Wellbutrin isn’t licensed in the UK for depression/ sleep so I can’t get it on prescription, so that rules that out. I’m not massively disappointed because I only saw it as a band aid, but it’s a shame - potential of increased sex drive, and a more positive outlook could of been perfect for University to begin with.

I will talk about treatment in here now only when I am doing something, but I would like to talk on a more personal level about how I am going to cope at University.

How many of you guys have managed to have success at work/ studying while going through this shit? I am only doing Geography but it’s at a very good university so it will be intense, I will also have to work and be very good with money and social balancing in London. I have thought about letting this rule me and taking a year out to see if I get better, but I really would hate that, I would have no excuses to my friends or anyone.

What do you guys think? I can get along in the day, and as long as I have supplements/ herbs for sleep I can get ENOUGH sleep. I will be moving much closer to a very supportive girlfriend, which is great but I am also scared that if that falls apart and I am close to her, it’s a recipe for disaster.

I have had trouble at work. Just the depressing nature of the situation makes it difficult to concentrate. Some days are bad and some are nightmares. I have had near breakdowns while at work. But, unless there was a proven regime of a way to “get better” I think any distraction might be better than nothing. I think you put it well yourself when you said all we can do is take good care of our bodies, get plenty of rest and try to accept that for now at least we are just along for the ride.

Maybe you could gear back your studies to only part time? I don’t know if that is possible or not for you.

Cant say I blame you, Proscarred. But I’m still gonna see a doctor. Im gonna hope and pray I have something other than this death sentence or that maybe one of Shippens protocols will give me some relief. I know its long shot. So, please dont flame me.

Lux, I’ve also been “sexually decimated”. Penis shrunken, testicles ache, erection smaller and painful. Its pretty devestating, I know the feeling.

Edit

I had a bad reaction to some good nutrition today, and Vitamin D made me feel really bad yesterday.

I got up at 2 this afternoon, did a load of broccoli, took the broth and added green tea as well as some flax oil, it actually tasted quit nice. But my penis hasn’t moved all day and I had tremor for about an hour.

Yesterday I took 10,000 iu of vitamin D but with 10 capules of 1000 iu each, a similar thing happened and I woke up this morning so tense, my whole body was stiffening up and a huge anxiety just came over me.

Confusing signs in this developing hell :frowning:

broc has dim which inhibits 5ar2

So is that a sign I am short on 5ar2 activity anyway then? I thought broccoli was a great thing to eat.

Joe the only way your going to know anything about anything is if you get levels tested. No offense to golf but hes just speculating

I’m sick of having fuck all good input to all of this. I can’t believe I have ended up with something like this and I can;t even take control of the matter!

Ha?

Relax joe…yeah its a bull shit situation, but it is what it is. If you want to accept or not thats up to you, but as i said it is what it is. Get some tests done your problem may be easy to fix.
You are the youngest so your probably in the best position out of us all.

I can definately understand. You (and all of us) certainly have every right to be pissed off and want to murder someone. You and I are at a very similar timeline. I think we crashed about the same time and your sides look similar to mine.

First for me was the horror of coming to terms with what happened. I’m still dealing with that. Some days better than others. Mostly its hell, as you know.

I had a spot of brief “recovery” which makes me hopeful. Maybe our bodies are attempting to get better. As many have suggested, get your bloodwork done and do some looking for doctors with PFS experience there. With your age , etc maybe getting on clomid or something might jar you back. Six months from now this might just be a dream. I think you have a great chance at recovery.

You can have control of the matter. Get your bloodwork done and research some UK Fin doctors for starters.

I don’t think his symptoms add up to much to be honest.

There isn’t really anyone in the UK, I am going to aim for doctors that have a good reputation for things like thyroid, or have a hunt for anyone with a good reputation for things like TRT. My optimism is slowly diminishing as I see my condition worsening and not improving. Although like you, I have had brief spells of almost total normality.

Well then you must not think 99% of this sites symptoms don’t add up to much then, you fucking cretin.

Maybe, but then after 8 pages all I can gather is that you have T levels in the upper quartile, have strong morning erections, regularly have sex, have no decrease in genital sensitivity, no brain fog etc etc yet you still talk of self-medicating clomid, GHB, wellbutrin etc. I though fanjeera was a hypochondriac but you are even worse. If you contact that BBC guy he’ll probably drop the story!