on the internet it’s written everything and the contrary of everything about candida diet. Somewhere carrots are anti-candida food somewhere else i found written carrots should be avoided, some say dry fruit should be avoided some other say it’s good, the same for fish and fruit and dairy products, some say dairy products is poison for who has candida some others say they just should be limited.Medicine is such a ridiculous science, you can say A and not A and both the statments could be considered correct. What do you think about candida diet?
Guys, I actually decided around Christmas time that I would look into something like this. I read an e-book called “Lessons from Miracle Doctors” or something like that, after it was bundled in with another e-book I bought about ‘curing ED’. Let me tell you that I got a lot more out of the Miracle Doctors book than I did the other.
The basic theory of the book was that in order to protect against (or even cure) diseases like cancer or MS, we needed to do many of the steps that IHP took for his recovery - clearing out our digestive systems, cleansing the liver, and there’s also a section about cleansing the blood. All this would benefit our immune systems. I thought that if people could reverse the damage of something like MS then it was possible for me to reverse PFS.
Interestingly, candida was one of the first things mentioned on one of the early pages. Along with many of the side effects, it listed ED, which I obviously took notice of. At that point I recalled reading a thread or two about candida and I thought for a second that maybe it had a role to play in this. It seemed like it was worth a shot to try get my immune system in the best possible shape, so I went out and bought probiotics and digestive enzymes and have been taking them, but nowhere near the amount that IHP was taking them. I might up my usage. In any case, the first step of the program was to clean out the colon, so I have to buy a ‘colon activator’, which I think is a herbal thing that reawakens your colon. Gross. But it’s where I’m meant to start. After that, I’m planning on fasting/detoxing to help my liver out, and then I’ll take it from there.
I’ve also been reading some positives about fasting that could help - some of the ones Tim and a few others have mentioned as well as the secretion of growth hormone. I AM worried about the potential drop in testosterone levels but I think I’ll start with a two-day fast and then I’ll try a ten-day fast and see how that goes. I know it’s not for the feint hearted and I’ve still got to research the best ways to do it. Once I’ve done all that jazz, I might look into Nystatin, and diet will be important, but as some of you say, there’s a lot of conflicting ideas on this. I’m just going to look for anti-inflammatory foods, mainly, and ones rich in antioxidants, that don’t have too much of an impact on the digestive system.
When I saw this thread a few days ago I thought it was crazy that this had worked for someone because I was sure it was just going to be a waste of time for me, but this has inspired me to give it a REAL shot. I’m with some of you who think that while the molecular PFS study is going on, it can’t hurt to try this iPFS alternative method. Maybe our bodies can fight their way fit again.
Interesting side note that I’ve only just thought about. Around the time of my crash, I developed a fungal-looking rash on my arm (kinda looked like ringworm or something). I went to the doctor and they gave me a cream for it, but it took WAY longer for it to go away than the doctor said it would. Anyway, I’ve noticed its sorta came back a few months ago but it’s been real feint… a sign of fungal infection in my body?
I want my life back, and I’m willing to give this thing a shot. MAYBE, just MAYBE, my body can heal itself if I give it the proper platform.
PS Congrats, IHP.
Yes, but how many developed dermatitis/psoriasis/eczema/hives/rashes only after taking finasteride? Especially in the cases of those who do not begin again to lose hair at the rate prior to taking finasteride?
My guess given the anecdotal reports on the forum is there is a higher correlation of skin issues developing after taking finasteride. If someone has data to the contrary please share.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6128&start=0&view=viewpoll
In the poll there are so far 3 times more men claiming issues with fungal infections after taking finasteride than prior and this poll excludes other autoimmune skin issues.
Nerve damage
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_injury
The term can simply refer to loss of function. Practically speaking this can be classified as persistent nerve impairment which is practically speaking the same as nerve damage.
Fasting and IHP’s sexual recovery:
IHP’s recovery protocol included digestive altering behavior in which it is not necessary to assume the presence of candida - including fasting. CDNUTS had a similar positive effect through fasting and he did not take anti-fungals that I am aware of:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=3309&hilit=fast
Both cdnuts and IHP are now following a Paleo Diet. Here’s a quote from cdnuts from July 2010:
where is located this nerve that may be damaged?
Not sure how leaky gut, candida, inflamation, etc caused my penis to shrink by 50% or better overnight. I’ve heard of others with this exact experience. Not saying sarcastically but it just doesn’t explain it.
Rashes can be pretty easily explained by lack of normal 5AR activity expressed in the skin tissue. I get quarter size blotches of red dry skin on my foreheard and side of face the last two summers since I’ve had PFS. Usually on my forehead and side of my nose.
Paleo seems to help with my digestive issues (less bloating, less acid reflux) but does nothing for the rest of my side effects.
I have a question for anyone here who has completed a water fast of 10-14 days. I have wanted to give this a try for quite a while now, but I can’t turn my life off for a couple of weeks.
Did anyone who completed this fast, do so while maintaining a full time job? A job that requires a fair level of cerebral thought, not bagging groceries. I’m concerned I might not be able to complete normal work tasks once I get beyond a few days on the diet. If someone assures me that the body has way of providing energy still, it would be more assuring. Once I start it, I don’t want to have to quit half way through.
No one knows the exact cause of what’s going on. The fact of the matter is that people have been finding relief through treatments that would treat leaky gut, candida, inflammation, etc. Is it actually leaky gut, candida, inflammation, etc? Nobody knows! But eating a diet that would treat these things could be treating other mechanisms that could help with our problems if those exact things aren’t lining up correctly. The diets associated with those treatments are EXCEPTIONAL for your health. To brush it off and not take part in a healthy diet is a big mistake imo.
If you’re not finding relief with Paleo… then start eliminating possible suspects that may be causing you more problems like nightshade vegetables, omega 6 fats, or all sugar (this means fruit).
Hey man. Yeah I agree with you there. Check this out. It’s not a water fast, but it will help you. This is more of the angle I’m going at it.
electroherbalism.com/Naturopathy/Therapies/MiscTherapies/TheWaterCure.htm
The problem is this:
Many men (such as myself) already adhered to good, healthy diets and exercise regimens before taking Finasteride. Many men still do post-Finasteride – yet it makes no difference as they continue to suffer persistent side effects.
In other words, their diet has not changed before/after Finasteride. The cause of the problem is/was Finasteride, a drug which causes various hormonal and likely molecular changes across various areas throughout body where 5AR2/androgens/neurosteroids were inhibited. There is also the issue of genetics to consider, and genetic predispositions that exist in individuals related to 5AR metabolism and inhibition such that scientists recommend GENOTYPING MEN BEFORE THEY EVEN START THERAPY: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1407
Knowing this, if this problem were as easy and simple to cure from “eating a healthy or specific diet”, every man who did so would be cured, and there would be no need for lawsuits or this website to exist. This is an extremely complex problem that, through scientific research, we will hopefully have more answers as to the precises mechanism(s) that have been altered as to cause symptoms to persist.
Yes, we agree that the cause of our problem is finasteride. That’s why we’re here. But I guess some suggest re-examining what “healthy” eating is and making it a focused foundation of your healing protocol. To suggest that diet “makes no difference” is a bit misleading. Ask a Hashimoto’s sufferer what relevance permeable gut and gluten-grains have to auto-immune health disorders.
I don’t think anyone’s suggesting that diet alone will miraculously reverse this curse or spring your cock and balls back to life. But on the other extreme, if you wash down pizza with a fifth of whiskey on a daily basis, smoke cigarettes and shoot heroin up your ass, you’re not doing your body any favors.
Yes, agreed. Obviously if one is in poor health prior to the drug, it may compound issues further. Eating healthy and exercising are good things to do for overall health, irregardless of Finasteride.
Right. And one may have THOUGHT that eating the widely-promoted government or popular health organization suggestion of several servings a day of “whole” grains, for example, was healthy. But one would have been wrong in my humble opinion and in the opinion of many people on this forum and beyond who are realizing that the traditional medical/dietary device is severely misguided.
And even if diet had nothing to do with getting us into this mess, it might play a huge role in getting us OUT of this mess. Thus, dietary modifications, treatment of the gut-brain axis and the immune system are not something that need to constantly be undermined. If one does not place any stock in these concepts or in the scientific literature on this topic, fine; there are plenty of other threads to opine on, plenty of other treatment plans to attempt. Quit wasting your time here, and pig out on bread and pasta and low-fat processed food and omega 6-filled factory chicken.
None of us know what’s going on, but a lot of us are not ready to dismiss IHP’s methods and success. IHP was a fellow sufferer, a SEVERE suffferer, a quintessential sufferer of this Post-Finasteride Syndrome, who REVERSED his impotence, REVERSED his virtual state of castration.
[Size=4]And so it cannot be overstated: what IHP did in regards to fasting, low caloric intake, macronutrient intake, digestive enzyme intake, and anti-pathogenic medicine and supplement intake and bowel flushing is VERY relevant. We SHOULD be discussing the nuances of dietary strategies in the context of putting together a treatment plan.[/size]
Disagree, per my previous post. There are plenty of guys who were eating healthy before/after Finasteride and it has made no differences in symptom resolution.
That said, I do agree it is important to maintain proper nutrition levels and eat as healthy as possible to support the body’s healing process, however if you are expecting organic chicken and veggies to cure your ED, shrunken genitals, gynecomastia, loss of morning erections and other areas decimated by the drug, I would not hold my breath. These are real, documented results of undergoing hormone/androgen ablation as noted in various prostate cancer therapy studies etc, in both humans and animals, leading to various functional changes in tissues, nerves affected etc. This is independent of diet.
Xhorndog, don’t take offense but you seem to react very emotionally to things and have been on a “diet is part of the problem/solution” ever since I’ve known you. This concept that “candida” is the cause of all things PFS is also not supported by any scientific evidence related to Finasteride.
Holy shit man, i get this too 
PFS is A fucking monster What the hell like?!
After a shower sometimes i have red blotches all over my face that take ages to “calm”. Definitely a symptom of my PFS - i have dry skin on my forehead whereas it used to be so oily.
I would have assumed low DHT but my DHT is out or range high.
This sounds a lot like seborrheic dermatitis. Are these blotches itchy? If not seborrheic dermatitis, could be some other form of dermatitis – have you considered visiting a dermatologist for an official opinion? The treatment, if you have seb. dermatitis, just fyi, is daily topical application of Nizoral (anti-fungal). Or you could take something systemic, like Nystatin 
[Size=4]Disclaimer: clearly I don’t know what you have or don’t have. But I would consider the possibilities and see a professional.[/size]
And there’s also guys who have had “differences”.
I went on a 5 day diet and my semen completely changed (worse), similar to when i took dexamethasone. I’m not sure how to interpret that but the results were unmistakable, i assure you.
Given our “extreme” condition, it’d not a great surprise that the guys who embarked on my “extreme” hollistic diets are the ones with the real tangible results. Not the ones who did the “yeah, i ate ‘healthy’ for a week but nothing changed”.
These diets are bloody so difficult i don’t expect many of us to actually do it. I’m not sure if i have the will power that IHP has tbh.
The body’s function is all interlinked, never underestimate the body’s ability to self heal given the correct environment.
We know far too little for you to make any sort of conclusion that implies that the diet angle and the hormone thing etc are mutually exclusive.
I’m intrigued by how my body has reacted to certain things relating to diet and also in other user’s experiences. There’s undoubtedly some connection - there has to be. The directness of this is yet to be determined and might well apply differently across the board (probably does).
Apparently it’s Rosacea. Well, that appears what i have - developed after PFS.
Actually, apparently it could be histamine related also.
PFS is very, very complicated.
Well, guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on certain aspects related to this discussion.
In the end, science will lead the way. Looking forward to what researchers uncover and publish on this problem, as it gets investigated.
If/once mechanisms have been uncovered and proven, it will allow us to better focus energies on potential treatments and targets, as theorizing will no longer be required.
I’m starting to believe there’s a strong connection - for me and perhaps many others - between histamine / general immunity impairment and PFS.
I have a high sugar diet - the time i stopped sugar for a week i noticed strange sexual changes. Now im reading there an antihistamine diet is one with low/no sugar.
This is seriously complicated shit to say the least, guys. I dislike how Mew, who is to be commended for his undying support to the cause - goes without saying, tries to limit the scope of our ‘investigations’ sometimes. There’s no point having a “romantic” idea of PFS being explainable by one all-encompassing theory, because the reality of things seems to point elsewhere.
Yes, im very interested in the AR stuff etc, VERY, but my body just isn’t right - i feel it - and the low white blood cell count etc, amongst other things, signals to me that i have some sort of immunity problem - potentially, auto-immunity.
I highly, HIGHLY doubt the people who were eating healthy both before and after finasteride that you are referring to were doing low carb diets, as in as low as 50-100 carbs per day, and burning fat for energy as opposed to food. I highly doubt it because I did it for about 2-3 months and it is DIFFICULT to do this. Try walking by a snack machine on one of these diets after 2 or 3 weeks and see if you can last. Life without carbs is not easy by any means and the weight lose by being on this diet is exponential. Not to mention other foods within the “healthy” foods that can cause problems including sugary fruits, nightshade vegetables, and other various sensitivities that each individual may have.
A healthy organic diet will without a doubt help put the building blocks in place to heal those problems that you talked about. Are they the ultimate solution? Absolutely not. But they will without a doubt do more good, than harm.
Rashes can in no way be easily explained by lack of normal 5AR activity in the skin. Unless you actually went to a doctor and had a test to prove this, then it could easily be explained. There are MANY explanations for what rashes could be including FOOD YOU EAT.
This is a huge one also. This diet stuff is by no means an eat healthy for 2 weeks and have raging morning erections. This is more like, be on a good diet for 3-6 months and take notice at changes that had happened and what has improved. Yeah, it sucks waiting. I want to be cured tomorrow just as much as everyone, but this is one of the few constructive paths that have no negatives and only positives.