the Rawfood Diet

Hi to all,
i guess many of you have already recocgnized, that i´m doing an Full Rawfood Diet. I started in April so i´m doing it now since a little more then 7 months. I was very hard to myself cause i just wanted to do it one time and also i wanted to get the best results out of it as possible.
I took 2- 3 pills fin in July 2008 and with the first pill i dropped i felt the fog. In the beginning i thought it will get better with time but after 3 days it went much worse and so i quit the stuff immediatley. From there on, i was tottaly fogged and my life was totally out of control… I felt so numb, i had no emotions at all i just felt like a roboter i acted like a roboter. My speaking was tottaly monoton, there where no emotions in it. In Sept. 2008 i started some new work and it was a horrible experience. Everyday i walked in and i was not able to have normal conversation, i was so full of anxiety and so foggy, i was not able to do my job properly ( i worked with disabled persons)… and soon the work mates began to doubt about my abilities regarding the work i have to do. after like 6- 8 weeks after quitting i had a jolt of recovery, i felt much better and then i thought… yeahh, thats it and i started to eat rubbish like cake and drank lots of coffee etc. at the time i didnt now about the food conection and brainfog. After drinking lots coffee and stuff, i began to start worse again… frist i didnt now wahts the problem but soon i recognized that there is a connection between food and my feelings. So i started to eat better. I quit all coffee, sugars and things like that but i still ate cooked food. I recocnized that when i eat less bread and fatty things i feel worse with it and i recocnized that when i eat things like fresh food, like fruits i felt no difference in the fog after eating but after eating things like bread, rice, couscous, corn and heavy things like french fries etc. i felt much worse after eating.
So i tried it out after a few months how my body reacts on different foods and i began to eat much more raw things but still i had not the balls to do fully raw, also i didnt no at that time that the full raw diet can be a solution.
I had like 2 times in that time between sep. 08 and january 09 mild recovery signs but everytime i felt a little better i started to eat the wrong food again… cause i thought its ok. thats really really tricy… what i found out later that when i feel better i stil have to eat the right food cause after eating the wrong things even when i feel quite good will throw me back in hell…
After that mild recoverie signs and then with the starting of eating shit my body totally broke down. in beginng 09 i was sooo destroyed i was lying at home in bed all the time. I was not able to think… i felt so bad. You can´t imagine. My work was a disaster and i was not able to work. I quit my band and it used to be the greatest thing for me to play in my band… i used to go out like 2- 3 times a week. I havent beent out in that not once over a perio of at least 8- 10 months.
I thought i have to die. there was no way out… i was so extremly foogged over months and i saw like 6-7 docotors and 5 natuzre healers and there was no cure in view… I was here on the board everyday and tried out all things people have mentioned here, like l- terosin, pregnononlone cream, iod… many more. the only thing i havent tried was ghb and i thought hardly of taking it… cause i thought ieveryrthing i better then my fog i have. even death would be better… but somehow i thught i´m a fighter and this sutff will not get me down… even when i felt out of this world. In april 09 i was so down that my parents deciced that i have to go in an psychatic clinic and i admit cause i tried really everyhting. I was open for every little piece of hope… I tried everyhting no matter what the price was or what things i had to do.
In the clinic they havent blieved my story about fin… they said its not possible to have symptoms like that form finm i showed them studies forem this forum hee but they simply laughed… they thought they know it better cause they are docotors and i´m just a normal guy with no medical knowledge. and it came that they declared me as schizophrenic and i had to do the schizophrenic programm and took the medicine. I felt even wirse with that stuf… and i avoided to take that medicine and threw it in the toilet when nobody was looking. After 2 weeks i deciced that the clinic is the wrong place for cuase they dont beleive and i left the clinic on my own descicion. the docotors wanted to keep me longer. At that time i came across cdnuts posts in this forum here and i was really amazed about what he was telling. I cured his brainfog with waterfasting and rawfood diet and i thought. ´thats it!
I wrote some mails with him and i wanted to do a water fast immediately. Unfortunatekly i was way to skinny to do a fast like that and i deciced to do a fully rawfood diet. 100 % with no exception. cdnuts gave me hope again after all this disapointments with doctors. Also as i wrote before, i always felt that there is a connection between food and my Fog. I was open for everything cause there was no other chance as trial and error.
I´m a really big foodie. Food means much to me and it really i a big challenge for me to do a fully rw diet but i thoight its much much better to live some time without the satisfaction of cooked food then living in hell for the rest of my life. The Decicion was quite easy. Also i wanted to do it just one time with no break ups.
okay. There first months of eating raw have been very hard. After eating 27 years of life mostly unhealthy food, i had hard detox over the first couple of months and sometimes the symptoms went worse. It had to take all the poison out of body which has collected there from all my life. It was quite hard and the first 4 months of being was almost no improvement achieved. Yes, i began to doubt about all effort, if it will really help or heal me. I did it for 4 months and there is almost no change. Cdnuts gave me always much courage and said, that it is very importnt to stay on the diet and my body will heal but i habve to stay on it how bad it may be at the moment.
the Theory behind it makes lot of sense to me, thats another big point why started with doing it. the only thing what can heal you is your body itself. Nothing else can heal you and it order of that you have thread your body the best possible way to allow your body to reset itself. in cooked foods, there strucuture of moleculs has changed compared to the natural state as it was on bushes, tree etc. and that make it harder for the body to handle it. I always felt it, cause this sickness makes us very very senstitive to what we are eating. also it gives us a big awarness how we should thread our body to be healhty and fit.
If you eat unprocessed food, its easier for ypour body handle and your body doesnt use so much energy in digesting and uses the energy for restore and taking the poison out. It made very much sense to me that when i live the way we are designed for, when i live a natural way… i will be healing cause if you follow natures rules and life with nature in harmony and balance, sooner or later everyhting will be fine. I did also lots of exercices like running and swimming. What else i did was yoga and meditation. Yoga helped me very much to become calmer and more relaxed about the situation. Last but not least i handled to impact if this emotional chaos as well. I did a lot for my body but it was very hard to accept that i cant go out and meet friends, to be lonely without social life. So i handled the negative emotions about that feelings with techniques like emotrance and the mace energy method. This both methods helped not to overact and do something wrong to me. they helped me to stay on the path, to be strong with eating and exercices even when in some moment i doubted about all the effort and thought about suicide.

Afer like 4, 5 - 5 months sticking with fully raw some changes occured, i became more clear for someday and the other days it went back in hell. like 2 weeks later it became again more clear. These days have been the first days with a little positve feeling for like more than 10 months. As i got that feelings i knew that i´m on the right way and its simply that the disease is so heavy that my body will take time to heal fully. I want back in hell and 2 weeks later i came back again… That what cdnuts told me all the time. The body heals in cycles. There are bad caclyes and good cycles and when you start with raw your good cycles will be at first very rare and they wil get more and more… also the grade of the good cacley will decrease with time. That means the good cycles will be feel better and the bad cyles will be feeling better to and that cycles thing goes on and on till the good nu,mber that bad out and there is only good cycles left… at the end i t will like good cycles and very good cycles till someday only vry good is left. This is how the body works and it really needs time.
I´m 7 full months now on this yoga, meditation, exercices, rawfood journey and i feel so much better compared to some months before. I come back in every of life… my fog is so much better. Its not completely gine but i can start to live again, i can start to enjoy life again… i´m not numb like a robot anymore. I feel slight anxiety but not the heavy fog… and i know that in a short amount of time. My body will be fully recovred. And thats only because i stayed hard and kept the raw diet for so long and ignored all the people arund who wanted to tell me that its not good waht i´m doing. they didnt know how i felt and cdnuts cured his fog with the same way and i knoew that i will be the same.

I´m so thankful for coming bakc on this planet, for leaving this emotional hell and i have to thanks cdnuts so much for all the good words which kept me going. And i really can tell you that if you have the will power to that journey you will be healing cuase that is how nture works. here are 2 examples on this board for the extraordinary healing abilities of our body and i hope i can encourage some people here to do the same way. You all have to be right of hapiness and the people who sell fin should go to prison. What happened has happened and the only thing we can do is to stay open and strong and threat our bodies the best way we can. Food is the main point in recovering from fin. Now i´m very sure about that.

i somebody wants to try this way, here is what i eat a day…

i eat like at least 20- 25 fruits a day. lots of bananas to get my calories. I eat like a half avocado for the fat ( not more avocado cause to much fat makes you numb) Its important that you dont eat sweet things and fat together. When i eat avocados i wait a least 2 hour before i eat fruits. the fats holds the sugar in the system and makles your symptoms worse.
I need some seeds like sunflower seeds and hemp seeds for the protein. Also spinach has lots of protien in it.
And of course i eat veggies like tomatoes, cucumber. The full programm according to my taste. Its important to eat green salads too. I take my salads as a smoothies. that means that i put my salds in a blender and mix it up with some fruits and drink the stuff. I do this almost eveytime and i drink just water. Nothing else… thats pretty much it.

For more information you seek the rawfood board at www.giveittomeraw.com

thanks for everything guy and i really wish that all of you will be recovering soon. I know how bad you feel and i keep sending prayers out for you…

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I did a raw diet too for about 30 days and then I came off of it. I am lucky because I live in an area that has a lot of raw restaurants and a lot of what they serve is actually pretty good. In those 30 days I had some days where I felt almost completely recovered followed by some days where I felt worse than ever. At the end of the 30 days I would say that I reversed every single cognitive side effect I had with memory and speaking, but the sexual side effects were there. I’m ready to try it again, but I am still waiting for some proof that this diet can reverse sexual dysfunction. For me that’s the final frontier.

My memory and thinking is so good now I was able to go back to work and I feel like I’m just as sharp as I was pre-finasteride, maybe even more so.

You and cdnuts have made great progress with all the brain fog issues, but until I see someone make a full recovery from the sexual side effects, I’m not quite ready to throw myself into this diet again. It’s just too difficult.

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That’s because it’s DHT, DHEA and 3 Adiol G related…Even if you correct these levels, you must monitor your estradial/Estrogen levels as well. Everything must be in the sweet zone…

We will get there…Merck pharm. representatives are attacking us now, you know we are making some phenonemal progress with spreading awareness…

I’ve been getting a lot of PM asking me about “my recovery”

I am not recovered, I just beat my brain fog with a better diet and bringing DHEA levels in line. I’m still a sexual basket case though and still emotionally almost flat.

I know merck’s goons are keeping an eye on wikipedia, but how are those douches attacking us? I’ve seen a few people defending their product on other forums, but I didn’t think they were bought and paid for by Merck & Co., Inc.

You said it, and you said it right. It is very difficult. But what is more difficult, eating like this or living in hell, I guess it just depends on where you are.

For the record Joetz, I’m about at any given time 80-95% in the sex dept. Now, if I could just stay on the diet for longer than a couple months I’m sure I could boost it. To be honest, I’ve fallen into a space right now where I’m okay with where I’m at, compared to where I was, it’s great. So, if I could saddle up and go full raw again for as long as it took, I’m sure that it could be done. It just takes more time than most people are willing to give, myself included, that’s it.

Changing your diet is probably one of the hardest things one can possibly do, hands down.

Seeing as Japanther has no sexual sides, he’ll be back to normal in no time. The sexual sides do seem to be the last to linger.

i remember going raw the first day i register at this forum.
and i feel it help me a lot
but i find it really hard to do %100 raw all the time
im on %70 sometimes %50 . it still helps

i think im going to decreas nonraw food of what i eat(fresh fry ,bread,chicken) and eat more raw food

The kicker is, there is such a huge difference between 75% raw and 100% raw. There is even a HUGE difference between 90% raw and 100% in terms of feelings and results. Reason being that little bit of cooked food is still holding the body back in terms of being able to completely let go of microscopic waste. It is amazing what just giving in and getting rid of that tiny ten percent of cooked food can actually do. There are physiological changes that occur with your metabolism buy ONLY going 100% raw. It has to be all or nothing in this endevour to get your body doing what it should.

Now, if your healthy, and not trying to heal yourself from a morbid condition like most of us here, a diet that is 75% raw by calorie is a damn fine diet. It’s just not enough to do what we are trying to do here, that’s all.

okay a short update guys… 8, 5 months raw… my health is around 93 %

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Congrats Bro! I’m willing to bet that in a years time you will be at 100%
Please keep us posted via this thread.

you took only 2-3 tabs. We took for 4-5 months. May be it will take us years on raw food.

I took fin for four years, so no, not quite.

thats not the point, the point is that my damage was at least as big as yours

Hi Guys

I think people living in hot climate are recovering faster. Especially where they have a lost of sun shine as compared to people living in cold like Canada. I am saying this b/c my condition got worse in winter , where there is no sun for weeks or months, even if it comes out you can not dare go out to get sun shine. so why not we take that factor into consideration when measuring recovery. If every body can mention where is he from , then We can come to some conclusions.

We already know what is helping us. I’ve posted about it numerous times and so have a few other people. As you can see, I live in NJ, which is snow covered right now. Japanther is from Germany, which has a similar climate right now as well. So, even though sunlight is extremely beneficial, especially when eating raw, it is not the reason that our gains in health have abound. It is simply the food we choose to eat. Don’t know why you’re having such a hard time understanding…

i think everything comes together… sunlight, exercise, relaxation threw meditation etc… but the most important thing is food… and at the moment we have bad weather but i still improve… . thats what think and especially feel. I was a wreck 6 months ago…
i started to dream again… its wonderful.

This is something I’ve had my mind on alot lately!!!
I felt great last summer, but been a wreck the last months, the long, dark cold of northern scandinavia wasn’t something I had any problems with pre finasteride.
Yet on the other side we have sufferers as JN, located in australia, and other people around the globe basically bathing in sun - still having a very hard time.

This has made me believe that climate wont really affect our condition. It’s just naturally healthier living within a fresh, hot climate.
I think it’s more like our bodies have become weakened by finasteride, both mental and physical. This is something I’ve noticed myself as I feel much weaker lately. Sometimes I find myself almost crying when facing challenges that normally weren’t hard to deal with, a feeling of worth- and hopelessness over trivial daily “problems”. Ridiculous. Tragic. Pathetic.

This wasn’t such an issue last summer, I knew I had problems but managed to ignore it, I had tons of fun, wasn’t thinking of finasteride every evening and every morning as I do these days, making every day depressive. Somehow winter season weakened my character deeply and even being aware of it, I feel unable to counter it some way. My routines stays pretty much the same cross seasons.

Finasteride did something, can’t understand what…

These sure sound like liver detoxification problems to me. Have a look over at the Liver and Finasteride thread in the Theorys section.

I posted it in the recoveries section because I thought it would get more traffic. This cant be overlooked IMO so please fellas, take a look. I got TOTAL short term recovery from doing a colon cleanse. The libido was amazing. Have a look. There has gotta be somthing in it…

I’ve started the raw food diet with the start of the new year, so I’ve just finished my first week. Obviously this is a relatively long term commitment so I’m not expecting any noteworthy improvements in the near future… I guess I’ll just comment on the transition. The hardest part is not so much the absence of cooked foods (although it does take commitment and discipline to stay clear from the tastes you’re familiar with), but simply getting enough calories in as a 6’0 male. I need a good 3,500 a day, and tracking myself daily on nutridiary I’ve noticed that so often, usually by skipping the last meal out of convenience, I end up getting a mere 2,500 or so. That means hunger at certain parts of day. I’m trying to be more careful and make sure I get the 3000-some I need every single day. I also try to give myself at least 2 hours between meals/eating, because I’m not looking to spend most of my time devouring food (definitely don’t have as much free time as a monkey).

Still, on the whole I’m encouraged by the fact that I’m successfully doing this and that it’s getting easier as I get accustomed to my new routine. The staples of my diet are bananas, dates, almonds and cucumbers, along with tomatoes, apples, peppers and whatever else depending on the day. The 80-10-10 plan recommends that 2-6% of daily calories come from green vegetables, and so far I’ve been getting those from the cucumbers. Cdnuts/japanther, is this a good idea or should I switch to spinach or lettuce like most seem to do?

In the beginning, it doesn’t really matter. You need to do what you can to stay true to the plan. You will start to crave green leaves after awhile. you can either make a huge ass salad or put them in smoothies with fruit and blend them to make a “green smoothie.” Either way, you need to get the greens in there to get the proper mineral and sodium balance. You’ll see, after a day of eating sweet fruit, you’ll start to crave salty stuff like celery, tomoatoes and greens. And yes, they will start to taste salty after you are raw for a month or so, without adding any additional salt. It really is quite amazing how the palate adjusts.

There also is something to be said for raw calories vs cooked calories. You may find that you don’t need over 3000 in raw calories. All calories are NOT created equally. Keep tracking, and experiment. If you are hitting the wall, it could be from detox, or a lack of calories. Better to err on the side of safety and make sure you get enough food. Smoothies are your friend. Get a good blender. It will pay for it self many times over in the form of health dividends.

Good luck. It can be very tough in the begiinning. Stick to the plan and you will be rewarded. I can guarantee it…

i dont know why this is now in this threat, this was definately a revoery post and people should read this… i recovered with rawfood. all the others in the recovery section recovered mostly from some things, some medicine sometimes, sometimes not… it seems that recovery with rawfood is something unserious, we have to wipe in under the carpet…

i tell you something… i made much more recovery with rawfood then any other product on this side ever will!!!

thats really ridiculous