The Quest for the Lost Libido :)

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#1

Ok chaps, I’ve posted a bit on here before around February time when I had some blood tests and what not done (see them in the bloodtest forum) and decided to just let things ride out and see what happened.

I’m still here now, so this tells you something - but it’s not quite so simple so I figured I might as well write it down.

I took Fin for around 3 months from June 2008 > September 2008 - I didn’t want to, but my HT doctor persuaded me I should. I told him I was worried about side effects, but he assured me that no one he had treated had ever got any … sigh

Part of the reason I didn’t want to try is that, when it comes to by man bits I’m quite a hypoconriac. Ever since I was younger and had an awful experience with sex and condoms I’ve found the whole subject rather touchy and it doesn’t take much to make me worry.

So anyway. I started the Fin and after about a month, started to worry something terrible was up. This worry then turned into actual problems and I dropped my dosage to every other day. This worked, but a while later I started to worry again - however this time I ignored the worry and tried to get on with life.

By this time though, porn was doing nothing for me and I wasn’t turned on by anything like that. Interestingly enough though, if I made out with my GF, everything was fine. But ONLY if I made out with her. Dancing with a girl in a nightclub or anything like that had no effect whatsoever.

And then the chest pains started. Finally something which I couldn’t attribute to my mind and I knew it was time to quit.

I stopped cold turkey and within 2 weeks, wham, it was like night and day. My libido returned and all was faaaantastic :slight_smile: Porn became interesting again and a trip to a gogo bar wasn’t a waste of money anymore :slight_smile:

October > December was all good and I was happy as Larry - until the end of December when suddenly it all started to go wrong again. My libido dropped again and porn just wasn’t fun anymore.

Luckily I’d just started to date someone knew, so there was still the excitement in the relationship which meant what little libido I did have was enough to have sex no problems, so I now figured just to let things get better naturally.

Jump forward to a month or so ago and everything was starting to look up. Porn was starting to become a bit interesting again, and infact I could now stimulate myself to a full erection from just lying in bed and thinking of a hot chick … hurrah!

But of course, if all had stayed dandy, I wouldn’t be writing this…

Yup - suddenly, it all died again. Libido disappeared. No work stress, no relationship stress, nothing - and for the first time EVER, I couldn’t have sex with my gf - my heart just wasn’t in it.

I then started to suffer severe depression, something else I have never had before. Contemplating jumping in front of traffic and wishing my plane would crash etc etc. I really did feel so worthless, it scared me and my gf.

So now I am here, to detail my plight for the return of my precious libido - hopefully so I can help others when I finally find the magic bullet for myself :slight_smile:

So, starting off simple:

Week One - Broccoli Treatment
I’ve read some people have success and some don’t, but I’d like to give it a try and see if it can help. I am currently on day 3 and can certainly say the depression has cleared up. Is that possible in 3 days or just a placebo (DONT ANSWER THAT!) - however I feel much happier, so it’s good either way.

I’m going to do this for a week and see how I feel, if I feel better, then I’ll continue with just this - if I don’t feel much different then I plan to add 1.5g of MACA daily into the mix and continue for a second week.

If that doesn’t work, then I’m going to try the meds. I’ve ordered already (though won’t be here for a while) Clomid and Nolvadex. I had planned to do a 10 day burts of 25mg CLomid everyday and then EOD for 6 weeks (with nolva 10mg ED as a mix), however another chap in my old thread has advised 4 months minimum… we’ll see about that. Part of me is hoping the 10 day blast might be enough just to bounce it all back anyway, so I won’t need to worry about the rest… but I haven’t been so lucky so far.

So to summarise.

  1. The only issues I believe I have are lowered libido and loss of sensitivity - I don’t think I have ED as when I’m up, I’m very very up and if a sexy thought engages, there is no problem - it’s just getting the engagement that’s the issue.
  2. I’m going to do the broccoli treatment for a week
  3. If it doesn’t work, I’ll add 1.5g of MACA in as well for another week
  4. If all goes well, I’ll finish the treatment, else I’ll switch on the meds which are:
  5. 10 days of Clomid 25mg ED with 10mg of Nolvadex
  6. Assess - if further needed, switch to 25mg of Clomid EOD with 10mg Nolva ED and run it until I feel better.

Am I going in the right direction here do we think? :slight_smile:

Oh and, please, I know this is gonna sound weird - try and keep the negative vibes out, due to my hypersensitivity :wink: If you think it won’t work, but I won’t die trying - just wish me good luck anyway - likewise if you had it work for 2 days, then stop - don’t tell me - or I’ll automatically believe it has failed when I reach the same point.

Did I mention, I HATE MY MIND! :open_mouth:

#2

Broccoli Treatment - Day 4

Something is happening, porn has started to become a bit interesting. Before, if I was watching it, I could just as happily start looking out the window at the world going by.

Today was different though, I was actually drawn to it.

Couldn’t get aroused enough to full hardness, however enough to be able to do the job and wow … seriously intense orgasm.

Nothing else to report except my house stinks of broccoli … lol

#3

Broccoli Treatment - Day 5

Woke up with a pretty strong woody, happy start to day.

Working at computer when GF came to give me a kiss, reaction downstairs.

So far, I can confidently say this treatment is having an effect :slight_smile:

#4

Broccoli Treatment - Day 6

Worry started to creep back in “what if it won’t work - how can a vegetable cure me” - which I did my best to fight off.

Noticed there is a new vitamin shop opposite, so bought some 1000mg tablets of arginine. Used this in the past with great success, but never for an extended period of time (I used to just take it when I went on vacation - lol)

Will mix it in tomorrow.

As for how I felt today in other areas, GF woke me up with a very friendly kiss (if you know what i mean) - but didn’t get to full hardness this time. What was strange though was when i stood up, and she continued - it did … full hardness without being able to bend.

Is that just because the blood runs down with gravity?

Later on today, just sitting here working not thinking about anything really and up it pops again. I guess this doesn’t prove libido is coming back though as I wasn’t thinking anything sexy.

Last day tomorrow then the 3 day rest. GF also has period for a week, so next week will be a good test!

#5

Broccoli Treatment - Day 8

Well today is my first break day (thank god, I hate broccoli!) and I am very happy so far. Porn is conituing to be arousing, and while definitely not 100%, it is so much better than before.

Will take my second batch of arginine today (3000mg) - from experience i know it takes about a week to affect me, so anything in the meantime is broccoli progress.

But basically will continue both for the full period then see how I am without any.

ADC stuffed up my Clomid order anyway, so it won’t be here until this treatment is done anyway… yay.

Just a question - does the broccoli treatment affect FSH or LH in anyway?

#6

Broccoli Treatment - Day 9

Had some very intense sexual dreams last night, they’ve been missing recently and I’ve only just realised. All good signs :slight_smile:

#7

wow this is exiting! broccoli huh… keep posting!

#8

Be careful with arginine. 3000 mg is too much. It acts directly over Nitric Oxid , and can give you erections that last too long, and that can damage your penis.

#9

Ok this is a live posting, just 10 minutes after sex (dont worry, she’s in the shower, I’ve not kicked her off to come on here … haha)

Just been out to a cantina (I think thats the word, fancy name for a mexican place?) and come back quite drunk.

Go to have sex and my mind is thinking “is this gonna work”, however put it out my head and just decide to go for it.

Huzzah … all worked perfectly, and (and this is new for a while) once we had finished I stayed hard for a good few minutes.

Whilst the negative point of my mind says “that was just the arginine” - I know from experience that 3 (or 4?) days of arginine can’t cause a reaction that quickly for me :slight_smile:

I know my FSH and LH were low from last time, but I’m wondering if actually I was always low (it’s such an annoyance I didn’t get the tests before I started P) - as I don’t think Broccoli can raise them (it just sorts out E right?) so if I am getting better, they must have been a red herring.

I think I should stop typing now, too much tequilla and probably not enough sense … lol.

My plan for the next week is to stop the arginine totally and see how things go. This is more to convince my mind I didn’t need it, rather than anything else.

If next week all is still good, I will start taking it again, happy in the knowledge I don’t need it, but it is helping (makes sense?)

w00t!

#10

Keep the updates coming, Please!!!

Are you also exercising during this broccoli regimen? also, what about your nightly sleep?

#11

Broccoli Treatment - Day 11

So now starts the next 7 days of it, infact it’s boiling up next to me :slight_smile:

I feel so rough due to the amount of tequilla drunk last night, I doubt I’m gonna think much about sex today. Lol.

In answer to your question, I dont do any exercise at all. I guess I should start, but motivation is not that high :wink: (the last time I was motivated to go to the gym was when I was going on vacation to Japan so I wanted to look good … lol) - it’s very humid where I travel, which means I don’t like to go outside running as it makes me sweat, which then makes my hair look terrible and thin (I know, terrible reason really - but I’m too self concious about that) … I can’t join a gym as I never stay in one country long enough…

My sleeping pattern is (and always has been) terrible. I am the kind of person who hates to go to sleep, but then also hates to wake up. I force myself to do things in the evening even if I dont want to, just so I don’t have to go to bed!

Do I wake up refreshed - nope - never. But then again, I never did, so I’m not going to attribute any of this to Fin.

#12

well… Are you then reporting that the broccoli regimen is still effective in some way?

Sorry to hear you can’t find motivation to exercise. fyi, when I used to run, I felt so horny for 12-24 hours after a run that I could have sex twice a day and almost every day I ran. I’m not exaggerating; however, I wouldn’t usually run every day. All of the energy seemed to come from my legs up into my groin and spine. beating the pavement and sweating are sure ways to improve your health under normal circumstances.

Also, I understand your sleep habits aren’t good, but I’d like to know if you usually sleep for a certain number of hours. I understand if you don’t have restful sleep, but I want to know if you sleep pattern has changed at all since using this broccoli regimen.

I would say that, for me, the worst symptom of all is that my sleep has been destroyed by finasteride. I used to sleep better than most people I know in my generation, now I’m f’d like so many others apparently. leads to brain rot.

#13

Broccoli Treatment - Day 13

Ok, been off the arginine now for 3 days so I can say any effects are nothing to do with it.

Woke up again after having very strong sexual dreams with a full hardon, very nice start to the day.

Tried not to think about things all day today, and just come home tonight (from Hooters actually … it’s nothing like I imagined, seems almost too family restaurant like, I thuoght it would be women in their underwear … anyways) and I’m feeling very horny. As soon as my pants are off I’m already hard and this is the proper hard without the being able to bend it.

Do the whole “as many positions on the couch as possible” and after I come, I’m still solid.

This just didn’t happen before and the only thing I can attribute this to is the broccoli treatment. So yes, so far I am a million percent happy with what is going on.

As for do I have good sleep - I’ll have to say a tentitive yes. Once I eventually go to sleep, I’ll be out for 7-8 hours without waking up in the middle, it is just the getting to sleep in the beginning that I find difficult.

Another thing, and I have no idea if this is due to the treatment, or just my situation or what no … but I used to get random “stress attacks” for no apparent reason. This has stopped recently for sure, but as to why, I wouldn’t like to say… :slight_smile:

#14

hi Monokuro,please i ll try broccoli too just to see what happen,can you exactly describe how much broccoli you eat,how much liquid from broccoli you drink ,how do you cook them and everything dettailed to understand how i can give a try to this protocol …???

thank you so much .

#15

Sure :slight_smile:

I buy normal broccoli from the supermarket (not expensive stuff, it’s 99c a pound)

Each day, I take about 300g worth (sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less, but always over 250g) and cut it up a bit so it will fit into the pan.

The stalk bit I cut horizontally into cylinder pieces about 2cm high and then cut down the “tree” bit at the top to split the “branches” up a bit. (sorry, I don’t know the technical words for these!)

Set 1 litre of water on to boil until it is bubbling a lot, then add the broccoli. The water will now stop bubbling as the temperature is reduced, so I wait a little bit until the bubbles start to come back, put the lid on the pot and reset the temperature to “medium” (my stove actually says Low, Medium and High on it).

Wait 4 minutes (not 5, as I feel some boiling has already been done whilst waiting for the heat to get back to max - and it says don’t do for more than 5) - then take it off the heat and pour it into my measuring cylinder.

However much water is left (some has usually evaporated) I divide by two, and once it has got cool enough, I will drink the first half - wait 20 minutes then have lunch.

Then in the evening before bed, I will simply drink the second half - what a lovely bed time drink … lol

I have read that you can take up to 500g a day before it doesn’t have any extra effect, but what I have now seems fine :slight_smile: It’s also said that it is beneficial to eat the boiled broccoli for lunch, but as I hate vegetables, I just let the gf eat it instead (with tomato ketchup … YUCK!)

#16

Broccoli Treatment - Day 15

Ok, very exciting news today - it would appear I have grown slightly! I didn’t think I had got any shrinkage with Fin, but judging by my flaccid state now and from before, it would appear I did!

Again with the strong sexual dreams last night and kept waking up with a full hardon over the course of 3 hours (i woke up, drifted off again etc etc) and each time i woke it was still there!

Got out of bed to go to the kitchen and it STAYED!

I don’t know what more to add, but I am very happy right now :slight_smile:

#17

I’m not a big fan of brocolli. Has anyone tried brocolli supplements, or has any feeling as to whether they would be any use? Here are a few:

vitacost.com/productResults. … t=broccoli

#18

Oh I hate vegetables too … I never eat them, so I know what you mean :slight_smile:

It’s not too bad though, just half a litre of broccoli water - does make the house smell broccofunky though :slight_smile:

I realised another good thing about doing this (for me) - I used to only drink like one glass of juice a day (or coke or whatever) - but now I am getting a litre of water, so probably helping to flux toxins and what not as well :slight_smile:

#19

Broccoli Treatment - Day 16

Girlfriend woke up early to do her coursework so I kept getting woken up quite a bit. Each time, as yesterday, I was full on hard. Nocturnal erections are back with force.

Having (and wanting) sex consistently each day now and being able to cum without having to do it for ages and ages (ie sensitivity is back)

I wish I had started this earlier, as I from next week I will go back home and not see her for 3 months, thus I’m not going to know if it is still working …

#20

Possible tip of the day:

I’ve noticed that if instead of pouring the boiled juice straight from the pan into a jug to let it cool, if I just let it cool in the pan (taken off the heat) and pour into a jug after it is a lot greener.

I assume this is because the water is staying in with the broccoli for longer. Whether this makes it stronger or not I don’t know, but it certainly is greener!