The Quest for the Lost Libido :)

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#21

Thank you very much for following up on this :slight_smile: I have started this “cure” myself yesterday. I usually don’t feel so great in the morning, so drinking half a litre of this stuff almost made me puke, but I got it down still :stuck_out_tongue: Now i’m just waiting for the reaction.

i’m 26 years old. I took fin for 2 years and i stopped one year ago. The last 2-3 years (after i started proscar) i’ve had almost no libido. I can get an erection, but I can never keep it hard for more than 5 straight minutes, which is VERY frustrating for me and my girlfriend. I never really had any other side effects.

So now i’m almost impotent AND balding. YAY. Thank you finasteride. :frowning:

#22

Gah I did the stupid today - big mistake.

I decided to look up what the Broccoli treatment is supposed to do and how it works. Of course, for every theory in the world, there is an opposite - and I found the “Lowering Estrogen has no effect on raising sex drive” one.

Now I know this to be false, due to the results I have been having - however as I said, I’m a bit of a hypocondriact, and since reading that I have felt like crap… crazy.

Could someone kindy tell me I am being silly, and a raised Estrogen definitely can affect your libido (with a link to a reliable source if poss) - just so I can kick that stupid thought from my mind.

(On a positive side note, I was able to watch (and cum) to porn twice today AND have sex with my gf - this was all of course before I read the article)

I am such a numpty!

#23

From what you have posted so far, it seems pretty obvious that it works for you. Going from not being able to get a full erection to waking up with one every day, and being able to have sex with no prob every day. That’s a big difference. I hope it works for me 2.

Edit, a lot of typos.

#24

Broccoli Treatment - Day 17

Had horrible sleep due to mind issues. Thanks mighty82 for your words. I can’t believe my mind hates me so much … lol.

Anyway, today is the last day of broccoli before I rest for 3 again.

Despite the bad sleep, woke up hard again which has really helped settle me a bit. Gonna go to the Cantina again tonight, which hopefully means alcohol and sex haha.

#25

I just drank my third “dose” of broccoli water. I barely avoided puking again. I have no problem eating broccoli, but to drink this smelly green boiled water, it’s horrible. There has to be something I can mix it with to make it taste better without loosing the effect. Maybe put it in a blender with some better tasting vegetables.

Also it says that “During the Broccoli Treatment, spice is absolutely forbidden. Avoid consuming all kinds of coffee and animal fat.” Have you been following this strictly? :slight_smile:

#26

As far as spice and coffee goes, yeah.

Animal fat I’m not sure, as I dont exactly know what that is. I’m still eating meat, though mainly chicken breast - so I think that’s ok.

Oh I tell a lie, I did have minced beef last night…

#27

Hey congrats on the success!

Ive had similar results with DIM which is basically the broccoli treatment in pill form. I can get hard and have morning erections and such just like you but I don’t get the horny feeling still. I dont get that excitement and body buzz and feeling, I guess that’s libido. But are you getting a horny feeling, or excitment about porn and sex? Or is your johnson still disconnected from your head and mind like I feel?

#28

Estrogen does play a role in libido. If significantly elevated in men it can surpress libido and impair erectile function, amongst other factors.

ehow.com/how-does_5158117_ha … rogen.html

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12630073

Conversely, if too low, it can also have negative effects on libido, bone mineral density and other factors.

If you’re concerned, get blood tests.

#29

Thank you Mew for that, ha, mind you will not defeat me :slight_smile:

inLimbo1 - Before I took anything, and up to a few months ago - I could get hard when with GF, but never on my own whilst just watching porn. Then I had the horrible episode where I lost all interest altogether and then since about day 13 or so on this, I am now actually feeling horny.

For the first time since, wow, July 2008, I can watch porn, feel interested and get hard! This just wasn’t possible before.

I think a lot of my libido trouble also revolved around stress, as in I was worrying so much that I wasn’t going to be able to perform, that it put me off sex.

Since the success I have been having, my confidence has returned (well until yesterday, but I’ll fight that!) and I am feeling horny once again.

Sensitivity has also come way waaaay back. I am once again drunk (it’s wednesday cantina night) so i can say this … but it had got to the point whre my gf giving me head was fun, but i couldn’t feel so much. Now when she’s down there, it can get really sensitive and I can cum much much faster.

#30

Exactly! I am waiting for that glorious day when a bj excites me the way it used to. I remember even just the thought of one would pop me a boner, but until that day I wont consider myslef recovered. That’s awesome that you can enjoy that from your gf again. And I agree I think a lot of it is mental and stress kinda like sexual entropy once the toothpaste is out of the tube it’s hard to get back in there and when we have seen how depressing it is not to be horny anymore it’s hard mentally to get back to where we were even though physically we may be back.

#31

I’m thinking I should write down my feelings as I go along, just so if there is someone else out there like me, they can perhaps read my words as encouragement.

Ok, so the main problem I had/have (depending on how positive you want to be!) was libido. This was true, I didn’t get excited by the thought of sex - however this alone is not enought to prove I had an issue. This could simply be due to stress.

What was missing though, was my erotic dreams, waking up hard, getting hard in my sleep etc etc - stuff that you can’t really fake.

After so long having Fin side effects, the edges do start to blur with what is reality and what isn’t, so having a definite marker is useful - in my case, it was the nocturnal and morning erections.

Ok, so I start this treatment - I can think as positive as I like, but ultimately without seeing anything, i just get depressed - so the dreams and the morning wake ups were important.

Now, this brought back my confidence, very much so. This meant the worry about sex was lifted, so I started to think about it again and started to want it and suddenly life had become very good again.

However, being the type of person I am, this was going to be hard to keep positive as I would always worry something would come back. And indeed, I was browsing letters from people on the broccoli site and found one which said “After stopping the treatment for 2 weeks, my symptoms returned”.

I read this, and suddenly I am back where I started… which is of course impossible. How can you wake up fine, then happen to read an article and suddenly be broken again … you can’t … but once the seed is there, then it’s planted.

So I’ve been depressed for the last 2 days, despite the fact I am still having sex … the worry was there. Until now, I read the letters page again and actually find I mis-read it, the guy said “his irritation” came back … now the irritation is caused by something completely different to the reason why I am trying the treatment, so I can discount this. (and my mind will accept that)

I scroll further and find a load of people who say their libido came back and it’s stayed back … so finally I can squash that fear and of course, I instantly feel better again…

Stress plays such an important role in a lot of our situations I think. If we didn’t stress, then we would recover much quicker. But it’s evil, as our mind set is so linked to sexual function that unless you are extremely strong willed, you will have problems.

Imagine this: You go to a doctor who gives you a full examination and tells you that you have a problem with your penis. I bet at least 50% of the men would then start to have a problem, regardless of if one really existed due to the worry of what the doctor said. If someone told you your arm is broken, you could simply move your arm to prove to yourself you are ok, but with your penis it is quite different.

I’m going to use the last week of treatment to try and relax as much as possible and enjoy the time with my gf. Not force myself to have sex “just to test” it, and hopefully by the end of it I can be confident all is ok.

I will of course keep this diary updated though :slight_smile:

Anyway…

Broccoli Treatment - Day 18
I actually forgot today was my day off, it’s become such a part of my daily routine now that I automatically made it. Ah well, no harm done I guess, I’ll just start the 3 day break from tomorrow :slight_smile:

Mind had been up and down (due to the reasons above) - but I feel happy now. After the little starting worry that comes when we beging to have sex, I’ll pull out half way through (I know, this sounds nuts) to check if it is hard … lol … good excuse to change position :wink: and yes, I’m always ready for more - sometimes not 100% rock, but always up to 95% - maybe I was always like this, I never used to do random checks before.

But in anycase, we are perfectly fine to have sex and I can cum very nicely thank you very much :slight_smile:

Next week I will be leaving my gf for 3 months to go back to Asia so my regular “test parter” will be gone. On the positive side, my anxiety should keep me from playing around - on the negative side, I have to wait 3 months for sex again … argh …

“Skint kid in a candy story” springs to mind.

#32

Broccoli Treatment - Day 19

Mind has been going into overdrive the last few days and only just starting to calm myself down. My sleep has become poor, but on the plus side, everytime I wake up, I have a quick check and I do have an erection (of varying quality throughout the night).

What is funny though, is that I don’t ever remember having so many from before. Can anyone remember back to their pre-fin times? Did you always wake up hard… coz I’m pretty sure I didn’t!

Also, something else which has come to mind - before, if I went to pee and “pushed” really hard, I would sometimes get a stinging pain in the tip. From reading that prostatitis page, that was a symptom … I wonder if that was related somehow too?

#33

Broccoli Treatment - Day 21

Woke up to another morning woodness, not fully hard this time - but if I “tensed” then it was all there.

This evening I was just sitting on the sofa and suddenly felt really horny - like a warm horniness feeling which just spread over me … haha.

#34

Broccoli Treatment - Day 24

The last few days I’ve had to do the whole liter in one go as I haven’t been able to transport the brocolli around on planes with me :slight_smile: I hope it doesnt’ affect the outcome …

One weird thing to report now is I have got this constant feeling like I need to pee … but I don’t. It’s like a slight irritation in the end of my penis. Not sure if it’s related or whatever, but as this is a diary I thought I should mention it.

Also got some blood tests back from a few months ago, my DHT level is still way over what it should be, about 100% above normal. My doctor just called me and reckoned this could actually negatively affect libido… perhaps a clue to things here?

Also found an article which suggested a low dose clomid could help sort out elevated dht as well… this clomid seems a bit too good to be true!

Anyway, on with the plan - will continue to the broc treatment to the end of the 27 days.

I then intend to do a bit of “pschological treatment” on myself. I’ll go back on the arginine for a bit. My theory being, maybe the arginine affects will boost my confidence, which (as I was saying before) might be the answer to a lot of my libido issues anyway.

Finally - the clomid should arrive pretty shortly after that, so I’m going to do a 7 day reboot trial along with some nolvadex to see what happens. If it improves things, I’ll then start on a longer course.

But ideally, I’d like the “reboot” to be the end of it all :slight_smile:

Oh and can’t comment on morning erections for the last 2 days, as I was on a plane both times :slight_smile:

#35

Broccoli Treatment - Day 26

OH MY GOD. For the first time in over a year I’ve just been able to watch a favourite “movie” of mine, get FULL hardness and KEEP IT until the, erm, climax (oh err … ha)

I couldn’t be any happier right now! :slight_smile:

#36

Ok the Broccoli treatment has finished now, so we’ll see what happens next.

I’ve been sick the last few days, but after a good nights sleep last night, I woke up with a full erection again.

Just gone for new blood tests (all the same as last time) but also now added the 3adiol-G one … the Dr is unsure whether labs here can test for it, but she’s given me the forum anyway so I’ll get that done tomorrow.

Once results are back, I’m going to get started on the Clomid :slight_smile:

#37

Ok chaps, sad to say I think my libido has gone back down again - but not as much as it did before.

It is def there (in part) as I was thinking so much I needed to masturbate, and after i had done, I definitely felt much better … lol

But the interest is not so much now that I keep full hardness (whereas I had the period during the treatment where it was all back)

That BT time though was fantastic - felt better than ever, which gives me hope that I can recover. If I was totally fucked, then I wouldn’t have been able to experience that time …

Clomid next …

#38

I’m not able to get an prescription for Clomid yet and I’ve not tried an treatments so far. I am interested to hear more about your experiences.

Please tell us more during this month and next.

#39

I’ve got a large batch of both Clomid and Nolva.

Waiting for my last set of blood results to come through though before I decide what to do … it was mentioned on another forum that the issue could be solely down to my elevated estrogen.

This could explain why I keep getting easily upset about news stories, sad movies - and why I can no longer parallel park … haha :wink:

Based on my new results, I’m either going to try for a clomid restart OR jump on the arimidex to just kerb the estrogen.

#40

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