cool thanks!!!
I think better yet would be a list to AVOIDā¦ Heres my two:
Cipro - I had eye floaters (these REALLY suck) develop after taking this and it didnāt help me at all with my prostate issues.
Milk thistle - initially gained better sexual function (for 1-2 days) only to have it plummet to complete impotence laterā¦Iām slowly gaining it back but this one needs to be avoided. It also increased my gyno & lumpiness in my chest
guys please take aloe vera!
Good idea with the avoid list. I had a 3 day setback after having a couple beers for the first time in a couple years. Couldnāt believe two beers was all it took. Half assed erections at best. It had been well over 3 yrs since my penis was that bad.
Thankfully, itās close to what it was before the alcohol crash now. I know some seem to get better on alcohol, but, unless you know for sure you doā¦ I strongly suggest to avoid alcohol.
"Correcting Abnormal Levels
Ultimately, the ideal program will depend on the results of various tests. Below are some of the common scenarios and solutions to correct hormone imbalances.
Low Free Testosterone, High Estradiol, Mid Total Testosterone
This situation suggests excessive aromatase activity, which converts free testosterone to estrogen. Inhibition of aromatase and reduction in aromatase-containing tissue (fat) is indicated. Suggestions include:
Take the following supplements:
Zincā50 milligrams (mg)/day
Acetyl-L-carnitineā1000 to 2000 mg/day
Muira puamaā850 mg/day
Chrysinā1500 mg/day
Piperineā10 mg/day to enhance absorption of chrysin
Quercetinā500 to 1000 mg/day
Lose weight to reduce aromatase activity.
Reduce or eliminate alcohol to enable the liver to better remove excess estrogen.
Review all current medications to see if they are interfering with healthy liver function. Common medications that affect liver function are nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as naproxen, ibuprofen, acetaminophen, and aspirin; the statin class of cholesterol-lowering drugs; some heart medications; some blood pressureālowering medications; and some antidepressants. Drugs being prescribed to treat the symptoms of testosterone deficiency (such as the statins and certain antidepressants) may actually aggravate the testosterone deficit, thus making the cholesterol problem or depression worse. However, do not discontinue any prescription medicine without consulting your physician.
If all of the above fail to increase free testosterone and lower excess estradiol, consider discussing with your physician the use of the aromatase inhibitor anastrozole at the very low dose of 0.5 mg twice per week.
Low Free Testosterone, Low Estrogen, High Total Testosterone
This situation suggests excessive SHBG levels, making testosterone unavailable to target tissues. Suggestions include:
Inhibit aromatase by following some of the recommendations in the previous section. Many of the same factors are involved in excess SHBG activity.
Take the following supplements:
Saw palmetto extractā320 mg/day
Nettle root extractā240 mg/day
Cruciferous vegetable extractā400 mg/day
DHEAā15 to 75 mg/day, followed by blood tests in 3 to 6 weeks
Low Free Testosterone, Low Estrogen, Low Testosterone
This situation suggests low production of testosterone, with resultant low conversion to estrogen. Suggestions include:
Use testosterone patches, pellets, or cream. Do not use testosterone injections or tablets. If tests reveal low levels of LH, ask your physician about the possibility of using human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG). HCG function is similar to LH function, and HCG can restart gonadal production of LH.
Take 15 to 75 mg/day of DHEA.
General Nutrients to Boost Testosterone
A number of nutrients have been studied for their ability to boost testosterone and/or treat conditions such as erectile dysfunction and loss of libido. This nutrient group includes antioxidants, which may function by reducing oxidative damage to testosterone-producing tissues.
Seleniumā200 micrograms (mcg)/day
Vitamin Aā5000 International Units (IU)/day
Vitamin Eā400 IU/day with at least 200 mg of gamma-tocopherol"
Iād scratch saw palmetto off that list. That is just asking for trouble and surely finding it.
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Low doses of saw palmetto are ok for reducing estogen. Iām sure if you have enough of Saw Palmetto your going to get sides from it, I know the guys who had sides on here most defintley probably took high doses of the stuff, itās action is not as strong as Propecia. Though I donāt want to argue with these guys who go shit sides from it.
Saw palmetto is Russian roulette. Thatās all there is to it.
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Yeah up to you guys. Iāve just been told its effective for reducing estrogen. Though itās probably not highly recommended given the cirucmstances.
My personal Favourite supplement every morning helps with brain fog.
berocca.com/en/products/berocca-performance/index.php
Each tablet contains Effervescent Film coated
Vitamin C 500 mg 500 mg
Thiamin (Vitamin B1) 15 mg 15 mg
Riboflavin (Vitamin B2) 15 mg 15 mg
Niacin (Vitamin B3) 50 mg 50 mg
Vitamin B6 10 mg 10 mg
Vitamin B12 10 Ī¼g 10 Ī¼g
Pantothenic acid 23 mg 23 mg
Biotin 150 Ī¼g 150 Ī¼g
Folic acid 400 Ī¼g 400 Ī¼g
Calcium 100 mg 100 mg
Magnesium 100 mg 100 mg
Zinc 10 mg 10 mg
Hey guys!
Please read what I wrote before.
We make a summary of all natural Treatments that people have uses. Than I am making a big webbased poll, a survey that will show asa diagramm, which suff works, which not and whathas negativ sides. understand what i mean? So please just ad things to the list that are missing.
You just than have to click on the option. Like I wrote at the beginning of this Post.
Next step is a list aof other treatments and how they work.
There will be a Stuff in the list of the surveyy, than you can click on it when used, than you can than you have options to add your comment like:
tryed: helped: Effect: Sustain: wore off: Sideeffects: Usage/dosage: Brand: Recommend: Free Text for owen comment.
There will also be to each point a free text field.
any qestions please ask.
this is fantastic, thank you
the only thing that helped me after a year off propecia was the combination of zinc and carots ( 5 mg zinc suspension tabs) 2 carots , in about 10 minutes I had an almost full rigid erection . It only helped me one week. also drink a bit coffee but not too much otherwise your dick shrinks . I would give it a try for everyone who suffers less than a year.
Saw palmetto is good for your health. I have already started taking SP again, who says this is bad for you. Guys just use it, it is all in your heard.
OMFG spstriken!!! This such a awsome Idea! IĀ“ll take some fin too again. This works better than those natural stuff. 
I was just sarcastic, by no means I would ever again touch this poison. This would be a suicide.
me too!
Comedians.
yes but you are biggest comedian when think SP is safer.
Agreed - Avoid saw palmetto like the plague.
Hello
I also think this is a really good idea, but it needs a lot more structure. We must note that between us we have tried likely 1000s of different variations of supplements, some brands work different to others etc, so the supplement list needs to also contain the specific brand name. Ideally we need a spreadsheet of all the things people have tried and specific benefits they gained, if it lasted and a few other bits of information. We then this table published somewhere so people can reference it.
Brainbug, PM me I have a few ideas.
Chi