Stem cells as a therapy

Therapeutic Efforts Pharmaceutical
#361

I appreciate your honesty. Your obviously using this post against me, i’ve done a lot of nice things behind the scenes i don’t even have to explain myself but for example one guy said he would of killed himself if it wasn’t for me helping out, so don’t misjudge my character.

I just think i’m overly passionate …I really don’t see the benefit of getting lipsuction(unless your overweight) reinjecting your stem cells has anything to do with PFS. I months ago thought i was going to be fucked forever, I’m not saying i’m perfect. But I have spontaneous erections, good moods, can work out again. I’m trying to help, just sick of hearing treatments where nothings even been proven. I’m on the same side…

Yet everyone here is convinced they have some miracle disease and that lipo-suction …stem cells are going to fix them :unamused:

sigh

#362

It seems to be helping him. Whether it remains after the treatment ends is another story I suppose. But at this point I’d do or pay anything to be cured. :frowning:

#363

It’s great Joetz says he feels better and I understand the impluse to want to believe good news but–

  1. This sort of therapy is not recognized by any University research center aka anyone not making money on it.

  2. People can say anything at all over the internet but the real proof of any effective treatment would be a return to normal hormone levels, metabolite ratios, neurotransmitter levels, etc. So far no one has produced anything at all along those lines.

I’m not attacking Joetz or anyone in anyway nor do I care to get into a back and forth on this with anyone. I understand wanting to try anything, feeling hopeless, etc. I’m just saying before anyone leaps into something maybe have more to go on than just claims over the net by any of us here, a clinic in business to make money, etc.

#364

the donor stem cells. has to be.

read the Link.

ddermis.com/celulas-madre-co … -calvicie/

#365

deluxxx,

I understand English isn’t your native language but most of your posts, including this one, make no sense at all. Also, that article is in Spanish and I doubt many here are fluent in Spanish. Muddling through that website it also appears it is marketing products for sale instead of being focused on science.

#366

Friend the website is focused on stem cells. for baldness.

translate english

#367

I cried when I read this post! This is my last hope.

I am so close to suicide. I feel like I am lobotomized. I space out for 12 hours every day. I cannot function in life. My mind is failing me and gets worse every day. I am unable to help myself, which is horrible since the only way I can get better is to fight for my health. Of course aggression is non-existent due to the drug which puts me in endless hell.

I pray every day for just one hour a month where I can sit outside and feel the breeze on my skin, think clearly and relax, but can’t even get that. God has forsaken me, even after all the good I had done in my life prior to this hell.

There are worse things than death. I feel for those who are on life-support and unable to kill themselves. I would kill myself but don’t have the energy. Time for another nap.

I hope you all get better. I really wish the best for those who have the strength to push on. For what it’s worth, I do believe it is neurotransmitter based. The only thing that helps is Ritalin and Amphetamines, which raise dopamine like a mother fucker. Of course I can only take them once a week otherwise I get too exhausted and it’s counter productive.

I’m going to regret this post next time I see it. Sorry for being such a bitch. I just need to talk about it so I take my mind off my bad thoughts.

#368

That’s really intense lowbrainpower, It is a very hard time. Though please don’t go and do anything like suicide. You have lot’s of potential to make improvements. I was at that stage early into PFS, I’ve made major improvements. Stay strong and try not to be so hard on yourself, if you need to talk let me know I have skype or pm. maybe i can shed some light for you.

#369

Yes, I agree with propeciashiz. Here are a few key things for anyone to consider when feeling down: you are not alone, it is not your fault, and top scientists are working on a cure (or treatments) - thanks to people like Awor and Mew. Last year I was close to doing something silly, but I’m incredibly pleased I didn’t, and I have made a lot of progress since ‘crashing’. (Basically, while I still take medication for ED I don’t really have any non sexual sides any more.)

I am grateful for the support I reached for others on this forum when I was extemely down. I am happy to take PMs from anyone who wants to talk, but if you feel like you are at your lowest ebb just remember that things will get better.

#370

dont lose hope man, this is a time for optimism … there are amazing things going on for us right now, and trust me, you want to be here when the day comes that we can treat this … the next round of studies this year could point us in a great direction … we are here for you man, be optimistic that this thing is getting closer to being over

#371

Joetz,
Have you had sensitivity return to your penis? Please share how sensitive you were before and after treatment

#372

Maybe you can find this interesting, published the 28th of Ganuary:

stemcellres.com/content/4/1/11/abstract

Maybe this adipose stem cell thing is not so fool

#373

I’ve had tons of improvement in all PFS symptoms

#374

as you’ve done with the hair loss and total cost treatment. $??

#375

Ok your posts make absolutely no sense at all. I understand you are translating them from Spanish but you need to start using something else to translate because we get nothing but gibberish from you

Anyway I’ll try to respond the best I can to whatever you wrote

My hair loss as I approach month six really (which is in a few weeks) has stepped up. At this point my hair is falling out like gangbusters and my hair is everywhere. On the floor, on my pillow, on the desk at work, in my car, clogging the drain of my shower, on my counter by my bathroom sink. It’s just ridiculous. The scalp injections may have produced some thicker healthier looking hair in the first two months but as I feel better my hair has been falling out everywhere.

As for prices that’s really up to you and your negotiating skills. But keep in mind that all procedures are not created equal and some doctors are able to harvest more stem cells than others and you really want to make sure someone qualified is doing the lipo

#376

Joetz, do me a favor. Look at the hair your shedding. Does the hair have a small white bulb on the tip of it? Very tiny white tip? If so that’s a telogen hair. Some itching of your scalp as well?

#377

How would you say your symptoms are doing compared to before the treatment, like in %? Especially libido. I’m very happy for you, also. It sounds like you’ve been suffering badly for a long time. I hope the improvements stick after the treatment.

#378

joetz,

i will get right to it …

how are your genitals?

i recall you saying you did not have shrunken, rubbery genitals, which is very fortunate for you, but what can you say about the situation overall?

thank you

#379

Interesting story on National Public Radio last week regarding stem cells and stem cell clinics: npr.org/2013/02/02/170942324 … t-of-time/.

The story mainly focuses on the FDA’s efforts to regulate/shut down some stem cell clinics – particularly one in Texas – but it also juxtaposes an interview with a woman suffering from multiple sclerosis, who claimed instant improvements in her condition after receiving one treatment, with an interview with a Harvard researcher, who believes the treatment the clinics provide is unproven and dangerous. The story doesn’t state the name of the stem cell treatment being discussed, but from the description of the procedure it sounds to me like it’s the adipose-derived therapy joetz, Kentucky, and BP all had done. Worth a listen to anyone considering the procedure.

#380

^ Hint to anyone reading - listen to the Harvard guy.

I have a friend who spent, or should I say wasted, twenty grand on stem cell treatments for MS. He got no better, may have even got worse (his condition has certainly declined) and the place has been shut down now.

I am mystified that these places are allowed to operate in the developed world given the risks and lack of clinical data.

As for anyone naive enough to keep asking Joetz how he is getting on (but not Broken Pecker who did the same treatment and claims zero benefit, funnily enough) : I have been a member of the forum as long as he has and have seen him claim dramatic gains from - among other things - DHEA, maximum milk thistle, vitamin d, wormwood, some ‘alpha stim’ tin foil hat contraption etc etc.

Please do some basic member research on this forum before spending thousands of pounds that could be better used by the PFS Foundation.