Yes and yes. Within days of starting my DHT was obviously elevated.
Yes to the TRS with the addition of TCF-1 front and back of PCT
Liquavade all the way. The topicals are good, but don’t compare.
Thanks.
thinking of doing that myself.
at this stage I normaly experience a very slight improvement of my symptoms during the night (around 3Am), maybe something to do with circadian pulsation of LH. My dick gets thicker and a harder, skin more oily, and sometimes i even get 60% erections just by thinking of sexual content.
I’ve been suffering for 14 month with the typical symptoms, i don’t know what is wrong with me, but i did measured my T before starting Fin. and after stoping the tests show that my total T droped by more then half, my FT is borderline low and my SHBG kept increasing.
So alteration of hormone levels can be valid cause to my symptoms
I’m really scared about this, and it is allways good to know that some ppl can find a away to improve, witch means i can also improve.
thanks so much.
Good luck.
why not try something that is proven to work like HCG+nolvadex. Oneday has done his PCT with it and he does not post any more probably doing well. He told me that he still cares about his hair that means he is feeling better now.
I don’t know spstriken, why don’t YOU try something?
I don’t believe it’s “proven” to do anything for us. Not to mention the down side to pharmacuetical SERMs that I’d prefer to stay away from. If Oneday is doing better, then I guess he showed you his blood tests that you would like to see so much? Either way, good for him. As we are seeing and learning over the years, there isn’t one particular way to skin this cat.
Don’t what to strive to much of topic.
I have an appoitment with my Doc. the 29th of June. He’s an expert on Andrology and sexual medicine. I Saw him for the first time 8 month ago, told him what happened and showed him my tests. Unlike the other 3 doctors i went to before him, he never doubted my symptoms and told me that finasteride can cause what i was feeling. Analysing my blood results he told me i had secundary hypogonadism, and also said that although blood tests are important to have a global ideia of what is going on he cares more about symptoms and subjective feelings of his patients.
He told me if i could wait until spring or summer to see if i would improve significantly, if i didn’t i was to return so that we could discuss optional treatments.
I am better, but still a shadow of what i used to be, mentally, physically and sexually, so before doing anything i want to talk with him about possible PCT protocols, see what he has to say, and work my way from there.
If I had the stuff I would have done long ago. I tried to buy HCG and Nolvadex but still in vain. No pharmacy ships to canada.
I don’t believe it’s “proven” to do anything for us. Not to mention the down side to pharmacuetical SERMs
this is common practice for bodybuilders if it was that dangrous they were not going touch this stuff. They do it regularly probably once or twice a year.
sps
check out bestpharmguide.com
a lits of the top online pharmacies, some of them don’t sell many drugs but others do, 4rx.com seems to be pretty good and it sells clomid, tamoxifen, anastrozole and letrozole.
They seem legit, and sell products from sun pharma and cipla (check wikipedia about these indian pharmaceutical companies)
Remember that ordering rx meds online without a doctors guidance is allways risky and i am not adevicing you to do it! but i guess, no risks, no rewards.
cheers.
I was over at anabolicminds.com and I found this thread started by liveagain and commented a few times. Thought you guys might be interested.
I read the thread, and perhaps the bbs are onto something. I have been on my PCT for the past couple of weeks and I have raised my Armididex to 2mg a day along with 3 inhibit E with competitive labs formestane.
My PCT is:
2 1mg Armidex – one morning, one and night
5mg Nolva – in the morning
3 Inhibit E – 2 in morning, 1 at night
3 Blue Up – 2 in morning, 1 at night
Formestane – 4 pumps at night rubbed in on chest and stomach. Where the fatty estrogen weight is. Estrogen is active in fact, especially that area.
Liver Juice – at night
I take that stack every day. The reason why I started with this is because I too was scared to jump into the H-drol regimen, though I may still do it if this fails to recover me after two months. Perhaps resetting the HPTA (h-drol) and then a PCT restart might be the solution in the end, but to put my mind at ease I did this PCT test first.
So far I’m feeling a lot better with this stack, but it is by no means a recovery yet, but definitely better. Also, I took a little Dexamethasone (.25mg) and that did something. I noticed after I took it something started to kick. I’m only going to take .25 Dex once or twice a week because I also notice that after taken it, granted nocturnal erections were strong, the boys started hanging lower and were more flaccid. So far I’m seeing positive signs from this stack and HOPE that they continue, but like with so many other “solutions” I’m extremely skeptical of its success. It’s all too common with this disease that something works temporarily and then after we stop, or even while on the treatment, we just end up back to our normal, deflated selves. So that’s why I’m extremely skeptical of anything, but so far so good.
cdnuts - You said you used TCF-1 “front and back” of your PCT - what was your regimen? Thanks!
Is anyone considering the six weeks of H-drol but with a Nolva PCT? I asked this earlier but it’s probably buried now so I figured I would ask again.
It’s impossible to say for sure, but I would guess that ScaredinMD’s improvement likely has more to do with the H-drol than the Inhibit-E and Blue Up, right? Has anyone started a cycle or spoken with their endo’s about this? Just curious what you guys are thinking, there aren’t many people I can discuss this with.
I may talk it over with my doc after some blood test.
However, id like to hear from scared to know how he is doing - its been awhile.
So you’re considering it golf? Def. keep us posted. This thread has made me extremely curious…
Just started AndroHard today. I am planning on doing a four-week cycle, followed by four weeks of post-cycle therapy. Besides AndroHard, I am taking Liver Juice right now, which is meant to protect the liver. (Since AndroHard is not liver toxic, there is actually no special need to do so, but I thought that it couldn’t hurt to do it anyway.) For post-cycle therapy, I am planning on doing PCT and TCF-1. (All of these are Primordial Performance products.) I will keep you guys up to date on how it is going on a weekly or so basis. Fingers crossed…
That was me, btw. I haven’t checked back there for a little while, so thanks for reminding me.
I am interested to hear about everyone’s progress on their regimens here.
I am still asking myself the question: why do these guys bother seeing endos when the numbers don’t seem to indicate something which would suggest a good course of action. also, the endos don’t typically recommend drugs for our “problem;” usually the answer is: try a psychiatrist. It’s a fact that my memory doesn’t serve me well these days, but I read about tests people have had done on this forum I am perplexed as to where it all leads. The one guy from Spain took Cabergoline(?) because he and his endo decided it could help him–and it apparently did (is that the correct treatment?). But, I am all ears if any of you think you’ve gained USEFUL insight about your problem from taking tests. I lost faith in Western medicine around 2001 for things like digestive problems or hormonal problems (any number of internal imbalances or diseases), so it’s my bias.
So are you going to try the H-drol cycle? I’m going to talk to my Endo about it next week. I’m interested in your thoughts.
I think I sent you message a couple days ago, but my memory is so poor, I’m replying now to your post here.
I am waiting to gain confidence in my exercise routine (I was hit by a taxi 2007, so I can’t do a lot of impact exercise) AND to hear from some people on this forum.
I sent you a message back, but if you didn’t get it the precycle regimen is preloading hawthorn and milk thistle according to the directions on the label for two weeks before starting the h-drol.
I am thinking the key might be the BlueUp because of the Yomhibe in it. Thats a alpha(2) blocker.