Have you tried Yohimbe in large dose for a few weeks (or a length of time)? what happened?
i have before…it works…but my heart was beating abnormally high…Don’t think it’s too healthy…
I wonder where is ScaredinMD and how is he doing now.
yoshimbie wears out after 24 hours
there is NO way that the yohimbine ingested from blue up (stim version) is still active after a week of discontinuing the product
just trust me on this one…
i am thinking maybe the combo of the trib with the yohimbe… continued use of yohimbe supressed the the release of norepiniphrine which allowed the blood to flow and be trapped in the penis appropriately again for an erection to work and allowed the neurotransmitters to recalibrate… or SOMETHING… I am not a doctor but apparently the doctors dont seem to have any advantage over us in figuring this out so far other than they can write scripts. ScaredinMD is cured. so something happened and this is my hypothesis at this point. if this could NOT be then what is your theory?
The going theory on this thread is that he resurpressed his system with the H-drol and then CORRECTLY restarted it again with his PCT.
Folks,
As promised, my weekly AndroHard update. I started last Monday, and while I do think that there have been some effects in terms of muscle definition and vascularity, I haven’t experienced much in the way of increased sex drive or nocturnal erections or “manly feeling” or the like, the way cdnuts and ihatepropecia seem to have. The reason, I suspect, is that my DHT seems to be fine (check out my bloodwork: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3918&p=23991#p23991), which in turn suggests to me that my condition has less to do with androgen or 5AR deficiency and more with androgen receptor insensitivity or the like. Conversely, I haven’t noticed any hairloss either. Either way, I will keep up the regimen and will keep you posted.
Thanks. Your reports are valued here.
There’s a definite difference there. I noticed aggressive hairloss within a couple days of starting the product. Please do keep us posted.
Did your hairloss resume after you quit fin? One thing that makes me hesitant about taking h-drol is that ScaredinMD said his hairloss didn’t start back up after quitting, and mine definitely did. That could mean we have different problems, and I’d hate to do steroids for nothing.
It did resume after I quit fin although at a much slower rate. When I started taking the andro hard, it sped up.
I talked to my Endo about Scared’s recovery and I didn’t really get an answer. As soon as I mentioned over the counter prohormones he started talking impurities that may be in them and didn’t seem to be interested in addressing my question about whether the suppression caused by H-drol could have resulted in the system starting up properly. The only thing that he said addressing the issue was that after the cycle testosterone should go back to normal, but he said that using a prohormone plus PCT to fix this problem didn’t make sense. Looking back, I think he was saying that H-drol or the PCT products aren’t a cure for this problem in themselves, but he didn’t seem comfortable with this questioning so I didn’t push it.
It seems like a lot of us think that the suppression was the key, so I was wondering has anyone on this site tried to suppress the system and start it properly before, like coming off of TRT or something? Would that even be the same thing?
well jack you simply dont know until you try then.
did your endo at least provide you with some testing?
I’ve been preloading and was supposed to start Sunday but he wants to take blood at least one more time in a few weeks, so I’m gonna have to put it off for now. Truth be told I’m kind of afraid of taking H-drol so it’s something of a relief to put it off, although it would be nice to have some basis for thinking this could work.
He said everything was normal except for low testosterone (400s, I’m 24) and low estrogen. I haven’t really seen much mention of low estrogen, is that common among sufferers? I only really remember reading about guys having low testosterone.
I am both low testosteron, low estrogen and low SHBG.
I didn’t get the estrogen test, but I was 514 for testosterone months ago, 36 in SHBG, and my prolactin was 11.9. High, out of range prolactin in my brand of test is apparently 15.2
Does anyone know if this prolactin level is a tad high? What might be the consequence of high prolactin? I’ve read one page that discusses pituatary tumors and dopamine levels.
I realize this isn’t part of our general discussion here, but this is an active thread, so I’m just posting here.
“Unusually high amounts are suspected to be responsible for impotence and loss of libido”
from wikipedia.
this can be brought down with cabaser, cabergoline, or bromocriptine.
thanks for the link. Cabergoline again. Has anyone found an endo that would acknowledge this hyperprolactin… as a serious problem and suggest a treatment such as Cabergoline for it?
My prolactin was high 16. I used fava beans for few weeks and I don’t know placebo or what but prolactin dropped to 6. but again in new test it is now 19 but my doctor does not want to treat it saying it is not very high.