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This is the crux of your argument, a belief that you cannot get worse. It can always get worse just as it can always get better. Just as you stated you think happened when you took dexa during this treatment and lost whatever improvements you had. You tried something and got worse. So, as usual, youāre basing your name calling and your own arguments on false assumptions.
For the record, UK20 is taking Fincar again because he thinks he will recover from finasteride side effects by taking finasteride. Heās upset because I challenged his logic that he can recover from PFS through another treatment with Fincar, one cycle of which he is already on with another planned for the near future.
UK20ās condition will not improve at all long-term, in fact it will probably be worse, after this experiment.
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UK20,
At the very least wait until after the conference. Hopefully at that point we will be on the way to developing some strong leads for treatment based in science and not in speculation.
There have been a few. The most recent is Blunted. Itās not always the kiss of death, it depends on the severity of your side effects to an extent.
I havenāt twisted anything. I stated the facts as they are. You are having a problem with cognitive dissonance, which is believing two opposing beliefs simultaneously.
- Fincar caused your problems; and
- Fincar can help alleviate your problems.
These cannot both be true. You took Fin, developed side effects, and are now trying to alleviate the sides with the same drug. There is nothing twisted here.
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I donāt think the two beliefs are directly contradictory. You do make a good point that fin has the capacity to exacerbate the current situation. This is why I have not come close to touching finasteride.
Although this reasoning may be wrong, finasteride raises testosterone levels while decreasing the conversion to DHT. There are a lot of feedback loops within the endocrine system which are beyond my realm of knowledge, but the body may somewhat adjust (persistently?) to the new hormone balance of higher T to which hormone sensitivity is lowered. Upon removal of the drug, in most cases very quickly, the side effects may compound very quickly.
Reintroduction of finasteride and a slow removal may allow the body to reset its natural sensitivity and production settings if the shock of quickly removing finasteride is not present. I am not an endocrinologist so this very well may be wrong, but I wouldnāt be surprised if the field of endocrinology does not have the answers to this question. I definitely would not say it is illogical to think that depending on the circumstances finasteride could both cause and relieve our problems.
As a side note, I think you guys should offer UK more respect. We are all in this problem together and it doesnāt help to attack him verbally. Personally, I am glad he reported on his experiment whether you consider it courageous or reckless.
I agree. There is less than a month left and it may save you from taking an unnecessary risk.
I appreciate he is taking it in an attempt to get better from PFS, what I am saying is that if you have a testosterone crash after quitting and end up with muscle loss, shrinkage etc then I canāt see how taking it again will have any effect - the horse has bolted the stable.
I actually regret stopping it more than starting it in the first place. I found this site soon after stopping and presumed I would go back to normal, or at least not get any worse. There wasnāt anything about a crash back then unless you really dug through all the member stories, it said if things donāt improve in a few weeks or months start worrying - not that you would go to hell in a handcart circa 4 weeks on. I was just unlucky about the time I wound up here. 
Users now are at least properly forewarned, which is why most of their first posts are in a panic about how to avoid crashing.
UK20 you are my hero. I have purchased 3 months worth of procepia and i am planing to go back on this also. I am planning to do 3 months and then quit. I am not expecting improvemnts when on it, however i am keen to see what happens in the first few weeks off. I too am first waiting for the study before starting this. This is my last hope option before i probabily end my miserable life.
UK20 what improvments did you see the first ime you did this.
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no not at all. One of my very first posts over 1.5 years ago was about me going back on fin. And i was shot down by admins. I belive if fin does its stuff it could strick the body ino restarting what should have happened last time. So what improvemnts uk20 did you see.
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Below is a line from my first post on this site (taken from my āmember storyā):
The idea is counter-intuitive and illogical. But where has logical thinking gotten us? Iām just saying.
Like UK20, I took fin for hairloss and came off of it a few times, only to get on it again when my hair loss progressed.
It was only when I contemplated having children that I dropped fin cold turkey, hoping to have children with āfin-freeā sperm. Well, I crashed! Personally, I wouldnāt go back on fin unless there were a number of confirmed recoveries, and even then Iād be concerned. But I completely understand UKās reasons and admire his courage to attempt this.
so when on 1mg u felt close to pre fin but as u tapper off post fin returns?
how long were u on 1mg
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right now i would be happy with just one day of normal sensativity so i know this is not permenant. i read of people who claim to have days or weeks of improvement where sensativty returned to normal but i have not experinced any form of improvement
Just aside from the hostillity (and let be honest guys, iām not sure what that solves anyway), iām in the dark about this āconferenceā can anyone enlighten me about it?
Thanks 
Annon, donāt be jumping on this idea just yet.
UK20 is a chronic fluctuator and has nearer episodes of decent recovery from various unconnected treatments. He had a good run of recovery over the summer from eating healthy and being in the sun.
Because of this we cannot make conclusions about things for a matter of months (atleast). Im sure UK20 will agree with me.
Iāve had glimpes of improvements from arimidex, aromasin, pregnenolone and even clomid, but like you iāve never once felt 100% since this happened.