For my two cents here, proviron does not help me at all, and gives me ball ache at a measly 25mg, tested two separate times.
I feel no different what so ever.
Proviron made my hair fall out and made me look pretty cut.
Zero effect on penis or sex drive.
I took 200mg Proviron for 2 weeks with no effect. Which is weird cause I respond positively to tribulus.
Omg, can’t believe it’s been almost 7 years since I posted this.
Well, it turns out I’m still not 100% cured but I learned a lot of things about how to deal with this problem, and I’ve made progress.
To me fresh royal jelly is what works the best. But I also noticed that eating a lot of peanutes gives me incredible libido.
Also, to all of you anorgasmia sufferers, remember, if you have sex (masturbation or whatever), at night, after you had such an exhausting and stressful day and your testosterone levels are low, chances are your orgasm will suck.
If you use fresh royal jelly (the natural stuff, not pills, not capsules), or ingest a lot of peanuts for some time (they have a lot of Zinc), and you try to have sex when you wake up from a good night’s sleep, odds are your orgasm will be much better.
But you have to read the signs, if your libido is low even when you wake up, perhaps the zinc or the fresh royal jelly still didn’t come into effect, so you have to wait.
If in the morning you’re feeling horny though, chances are your orgasm will be good, if you have sex.
There’s no magic recipe, this is just my experience. Good luck.
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I had totally stopped reading sites about the problem, for me it’s been on and off again, sometimes I get it right, sometimes I don’t.
Something that I take at times will work, and at times it won’t.
There must still be a logic behind this, it must not be random, it’s just that I still didn’t learn to understand it in full.
As of late I’ve been reasonably satisfied with fresh royal jelly (spend 20-30 minutes with the pulp in my tongue), then wait a few hours or days (at times the effect is on the same day), then if I jack off in the morning when I wake up after a good night’s sleep, chances are I will be horny and with great horniness comes great orgasms (usually.) You have to wait, you can usually tell if it’s working or not, I usually notice when I’m distracted looking at something else entirely and then I start to find everyone I see on the internet good looking and sexy (Lol), that’s when I know it’s working. Sometimes people that were 5s, start to be 9s, 10s, etc.
But, it’s not infallible. Also recently I even thought I was cured, after I got so horny without realizing I had eaten a lot of peanuts (they have Zinc.)
And as in a previous post, visual excitation is key, I go to x-videos and look for transgression videos (I mean, transgression relative to me, my likes and dislikes.) I turns me on a lot, so I usually manage to get at least an 8/10, sometimes even more.
Almost 3 weeks after ordering Proviron, it finally arrived. I’ve started taking 1/2 a tablet (12.5 mg), 2x a day. The first day, within hours, I felt warmth on my forehead, and a sebaceous cyst developed on the back of my ear. Prior to PFS, this was a very common occurrence, but I haven’t had it in the decade since PFS. The second day, I have some slight itching on my scalp. At this low dosage, I don’t even know if it’s related to the Proviron, but worth logging.
Also, my urine has been darker than usual, but no other changes or anything else observable. I’ve also stopped all other vitamins and supplements for the last month, and am intermittent fasting, juicing and eating one healthy meal a day. My weight is down from 198lb to 186lb (I’m 5’11”) and I’m otherwise feeling “ok”, aside from PFS.
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After three days of take a half a tablet of Proviron (12.5mg) twice a day, I increased to a full tablet, 2x a day. After 3 days of this increased dosage, I continue to have morning wood consistently. That’s 6 straight days of it, for the first time in a decade. it’s not as firm as pre pfs, and would say it’s about 80%. After a couple of days of my testicles being “looser”, they’re back in a tight sack. There have been no “random” erections throughout the day.
Orgasms have gone from an absolute zero to about 2%. ejaculate consistency has gone from absolute watery to very slightly less watery. The only other noticeable effect is less sleep and need for sleep, and constipation, but those may be unrelated. My weight is basically unchanged, and skin seems a tiny bit more oily. The hardly negligible increase in desire I’m sensing is likely related to the fit women who seem like they’ve been in the gym all winter and are now wearing less, more flattering clothing. I’ve been thinking more at the clothing that what’s underneath, but it’s a start, I hope.
Scalp still itches a bit, and hope what little hair I have left doesn’t go too. It may be too early, but there are no muscle or fat distribution changes. It’s still around the stomach and hips, with skinny arms, shoulders and upper chest. Tinnitus, which I had before PFS, has been acting up a tiny bit as well, but still very tolerable. Dry eye seems a tiny bit better, and swallowing seems a bit easier.
I’ve passed the “3 day recovery” some of use have previously experienced, and wondering how long I should be taking Proviron, or if dosage should be increased. Any guidance would be appreciated.
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I would stick with lower dosage a few more days first then maybe increase slightly if things are going well. Don’t overdo it.
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tribulus doesnt increase androgens, it just upregulates androgen receptors. Therefore its working in a totally different way than proviron which raises DHT
you said that you feel weird if you do too high doses of tribulus right?
I used Tribestan, the real Tribulus. Increased my dosage up to 7 pills. Didn’t notice any benefits from it? What is the meaning behind this?
Also, which study says it upregulates the receptors? Please don’t put out a theory without investigating its validity.
if you didnt notice any benefits from it then I am guessing that you might have low androgens. Assuming that tribulus only upregulates androgen receptors then this means that you now have a bunch of androgen receptors but maybe not enough androgens for them. To confirm or deny this theory you need to take something like creatine for a few days and see if you notice anything from it. If you do then that means that my theory is correct
additionally it may also be possible that your androgen receptors are already highly upregulated and as a result you dont notice anything significant anymore. This is a distinct possibility as well
You can look on the internet for studies/articles about tribulus upregulating androgen receptors in the brain. The reason that I believe that tribulus upregulates androgen receptors (as opposed to androgens themselves) is through lots of trial and error. I have tested these kinds of things out a lot and my experiments suggest that tribulus only upregulates androgen receptors and not androgens. This is why so many people claim that blood tests dont show tribulus increasing androgens, yet people are still feeling benefits from the tribulus. Why? Its because people are looking at the wrong area, they should be looking at androgen receptor density instead of androgen levels themselves
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I had the same experience with the scrotum. I once took a megadose of proviron (425 mg) and for about 2 days, my scrotum was loose just as it was pre pssd. Then it went back to baseline. Ive taken the same dose of proviron, even more, but never got this effect again.
Does anyone know something about what causes the scrotum to become tight or loose, except temperature? I suspect it is somehow connected to my complete loss of sex drive. If I recall correctly it is during puberty that the scrotum becomes loose, and it’s also at about this point that one experiences a real sex drive. It also has something to do with the “blue balls” sensation one gets when sexually frustrated. I don’t get this anymore at all.
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Study showing effects of tribulus
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Yes, I’ve had the same effect, even now that’s I’m on 1 tablet of proviron every 12 hours. All seemed well and loose there for a few days, and all has tightened up again. I’ll add that for the first few days of taking a half a tablet a day, I woke with really strong morning wood, than had 2 bad days (food, schedule, stress) and no wood. After increasing to a full tablet, the wood has been back and consistent, but not as strong.
Additionally, I’m feeling slightly more irritable (or frustrated/angry) and don’t know if the proviron is related or not, otherwise my mood has been a little bit better, and I’ve even started running again, which is something I haven’t done in years.
I’m also sometimes seeing veins appear again on the tops of my hands. They “disappeared” under what has become tight, wrinkly skin for the last few years.
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This is some great news man? This is tge first time you experience morning woods, right? Seems like proviron works. Keep it up.
It’s the first time where it’s been consistent, and lasted beyond a couple of days, yes, thank you. I’m also noticing some body hair increases, which I understand is typical with Proviron. Unfortunately, there is still no desire, “orgasms” are still zero, and memory recollection is just as bad (if not worse), but I’m happy for this one improvement, and will see what happens over time.
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After a month of seemingly positive results from 25mg of Proviron every 12 hours, I continued to have morning wood, although less frequent and less erect, and seemed to have more energy, and lost some weight (which I needed to do) I noticed some swelling of my feet, ankles and lower legs. While I don’t know if this was in any way related, the fear of messing with my hormones and the fear of getting into legal trouble buying Proviron, I tapered off.
I put back on the ten pounds I lost, and lost all muscle gains I seemed to make, and some extra, with hardly any bicep formation showing at all. Also the 10% orgasm I had left seems to be about zero percent now. “Desire” has also dropped from 10% to zero. Maybe it’s the estrogen coming back, and I hope those few percent return as well.
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Hi man, did you ever restart your proviron protocol, it seemed to have great success, even to the level of you being almost cured? How are you now?
I haven’t gone back on Proviron, because I moved to hCG for 6 months, which had some benefits I wrote about in a different thread. I later moved to three different types of TRT, which gave me only more body hair, pimples, and swollen feet.
I got off of everything except vitamins and supplements and hoping to reset a bit before going on either Proviron again, at a much higher dose like some others have done, or mifepristone. I’m really running out of options.
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Good to hear. I really believe although cannot prove, that alot of issues have to do with androgen deprivation, lack of DHT. From what you’ve written taking 12.5mg daily and eventually switching to 25mg you had great results. Why not try using the same protocol and megadose? Did you learn something along the way that made youswitch strategy?
What do you think of @JustQuitDut s “last post”?
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