Prostatitis treatment as a novel insight into Finasteride related problems

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I came across a post from someone trying to elevate their DHT. One guy guessed that questionerā€™s testosterone must be low. This was the response:

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http://coolinginflammation.blogspot.com/search/label/prostatitis

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Transglutaminase Autoantigen
[i]Autoimmune diseases are also associated with chronic inflammation. One of the common autoantigens in autoimmune disease is tissue transglutaminase (tTG). Celiac is a classic example of the involvement of tTG, since tTG acts on the glutamine amino acids of gluten and converts them into glutamic acid residues. In the process tTG becomes covalently attached to the gluten. The strong heparin binding domains of tTG also facilitate its uptake and processing as an immunogen under inflammatory conditions and result in antibody production to both tTG and gluten. Anti-tTG antibodies and inflammation can also lead to attack on other tissues, such as the thyroid and skin, leading to a variety of celiac-associated autoimmune conditions.

The prostate produces its own transglutaminase. I think it is likely that prostatitis in some cases progresses to an autoimmune disease and prostate transglutaminase is a likely candidate for one of the autoantigens involved. This also predicts an association with celiac and a requirement for chronic systemic infection with a likely elevation of C-reactive protein and inflammatory cytokines (IL-1, IL-6, TNF). Deficiency of vitamin D and omega-3 fatty acids are probably major contributors. Increased risk attributed to consumption of a high fat diet and meat, is probably actually due to inflammation from a high carbohydrate diet and high omega-3 vegetable oils (or perhaps corn-fed meat.)[/i]

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solonjk, what did you test exactly? The 5-ar II enzyme concentration?

How are solonjk, gefinauser, noiman doing?

Any results?

Hey guys, Iā€™ve been keeping an eye on this prostatitis thread even as Iā€™m experiencing sustained sexual gains over the last few months. Quick update:

ā€¢Iā€™m banging
ā€¢Iā€™m banging more than normal and seems to be increasing; multiple sessions, shortened refractory periods.
ā€¢Libido is up slightly, but nowhere close to normal.
ā€¢Brain fog is less
ā€¢Iā€™ve been using high doses of Nystatin and cycling Diflucan (hard on the liver) which I believe have yielded these sustained results
ā€¢I recently used Dexamethasone (twice) which seemed to give me an extra boost. Unlike previous times, these gains seem to be staying.
ā€¢ Felt almost completely recovered when taking Dexamethasone the last time.
ā€¢Dr. G said dex and nystatin would help in most prostatic cases, though may only mask symptoms, not cure (see below)
ā€¢Recently started Taking T3. I believe this is responsible for my recent mental and libido improvements.
ā€¢I continue to get better weekly.
ā€¢Yes, I can get an erection and bang. Multiple times. Am I recovered? No. Iā€™m taking a lot of meds, and I donā€™t know what will happen when I stop taking them. But Iā€™m tweaking my protocol, Iā€™m enjoying life now, and Iā€™m still chasing that last bit, primarily libido and the cessation of brain fog. I do wonder if Iā€™m indirectly treating the prostate.

Hereā€™s what Dr. Georgiadis had to say when I gave him a detailed outline of my symptoms and history and recent experimentation with medicines:

As with all of my Propecia patients, your symptoms as well give extremely high possibilities of having chronic prostatitis.
In order to correctly diagnose if that is indeed the case, and how deep the inflammation is, I will have to personally see you.

The anti-mycotic (Nystatin, Diflucan) and the cortiston treatments (Dexamethasone) diminish the intra-prostatic edema,
and in that way cause temporary relief. However, even if there is an alleviation of the symptoms, the chronic prostatitis
still exists and slowly advances, and every new series of symptoms remains more persistent and more resistant to medications.

The reason this happens and just taking medicine does not solve the problem, is because there are infected areas in the prostate,
which have been deformed to the point, where blood does not flow correctly (if at all), and thus the medicines never reach the microbes.
Thatā€™s where my method comes in - after diagnosing how deep the inflammation is, and which spots to hit, I apply finger pressure
and gradually unblock the prostate, restoring correct micro-circulation and releasing squeezed nerves.
Once the prostatic blood flow recovers, the medicines come in contact with the microbes and destroy them.

When the prostate is free of microbes, it gradually recovers to its initial state and the symptoms go away.

As I have said, judging from your symptoms and from experience with Propecia patients, your case is extremely
likely one of chronic prostatitis.

Ihatepropecia702,

Iā€™m very glad you are improving so much. Congrats!

I wanted to point out that taking Dexamethasone + thyroid hormones has already cured a guy (he was on T4, took Dexa for a few days, and stably recovered). Iā€™m not sure whether itā€™s related to the prostate or not, but itā€™s certainly a very promising direction to explore. I would like to suggest you to talk to your dr about continuing taking both medications for a while (a few weeks at least). For brain fog, you may want to take some transdermal pregnenolone. Keep up the good work!

I know that he was also issued Progesterone and Medrol to ā€œplayā€ with, but he hasnā€™t incorporated them yet. His longstanding gains, however, are attributable to the antifungals heā€™s been on for Iā€™d guesstimate around 8-9 months now, at an escalating dosage (the nystatin; diflucan is cycled due to how hard it is on the liver).

This ā€˜prostate blockageā€™ Georgiadis talks of is very convincing for two reasons for me:

  1. clearly bloodflow is an issue hence extremely pale genitalia

  2. taking cialis clears up possible eczema that i have down there - this skin condition was never a big deal before i crashed

His treatment is really beginning to make a lot of sense, wow.

Ihatepropecia, do you take Dexamethasone tablets or injections?

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Interesting observation, UK20. He took just TWO tabs. If you think you have prostatitis and put stock in Dr. Georgiadisā€™ theory and treatment, and think you are eventually going to see him, I would not self-medicate. If you agree with what he says, he is saying that while you can possibly alleviate symptoms via the aforementioned drugs, the prostatitis still exists, and can in fact grow and become more resistant to therapy later.

hello folks,

I just updated my story in ā€œRecoveriesā€ section, Iā€™m waiting it to be validated by the administrator.
Well, as I told Mew, I think he can move my post to ā€œMember storiesā€ back, unfortunately.

My condition has gone bad, after 2 years of 98% recovery.

Today it seems my prostatitis is worse than ever. It rushed back about 1 month and a half ago, like in the ā€œgood old daysā€ :

  • severe pelvis pain, lower back pain
  • penis numbness, connection brain-penis almost absent, no pleasure to touch my dick
  • low libido
  • painful erection, painful masturbation
  • prostate twitch (odd but at least itā€™s not painful) & other muscle spasms
    Otherwise, Iā€™m OK, nothing else to report.

I always thought I might have prostatitis but my echography did not show anything and anyway, there was no doctor worldwide known to heal it with a satisfying sucess rate.

I absolutely want a TRUS to be done quickly, but my GP is on vacation. Iā€™ll try to get one whatever.
I hope it will reveal something, but I hope not something worse than prostatitis. Well weā€™ll see.

the famous greek doctor is not far from my place, Iā€™m considering visiting him.

Thanks solonjk for your thread and your finding out of this doctor, he seems one good specialist of prostatitis, at last.

Iā€™m currently not taking any Dex. I did take two 0.25 dose of dex about 4 weeks ago, and it helped! Also, the gains I made lasted and are still present today.

I took Dex about a year ago or so, and it did help at that time, but the gains never lasted. The benefits are lasting now for some weird reason.

I may try another 0.25, but right now everything is going so well I donā€™t want to interfere much, though I have it all on the shelf and ready to go at any time.
At current Iā€™m taking Nystatin and t3. I just started the t3 last week, and it is time release lose dose.

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Solonjk, how are the others ?

My momma always said ā€œNo news is good news.ā€ Hope so!

hey salon did you find a paper stating this?
Would love to see it/show it to my doc if you have it

Out of interest - why would hair be itchy???

Anyone else in the UK getting a Transrectal Ultrasound?
Iā€™ve been told by my local private hospital I have to have a consultation with a urologist for Ā£200 and then the TRUS will be at least as much again?
They milk your wallet, do they milk your prostate as well?!

Perhaps his DHT levels are coming back up?