Merck don’t care; because that money keeps rolling in. FDA doesn’t give a crap either.
Here is the reply from the MHRA. Merck don’t even need to hire a lawyer - the drug regulators are doing all their work for them!
Thank you for your email regarding the safety profile of finasteride 1mg for the use of male pattern
baldness.
You note that there have been another two reported deaths within the past year following the use of
finasteride. We currently have very few details regarding these cases. However; we are in the process
of following up these cases with the relevant reporters and health care professionals for information that
will help us to better evaluate the relationship with finasteride. As you may be aware, the risk of suicide
is increased in men of this age, according to the Office of National Statistics (ONS)
ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulation … etins/suic
idesintheunitedkingdom/2014registrations
In December 2015, Health Canada conducted a review which concluded that at present there is not
enough evidence to attribute suicidal ideation to finasteride use. More details of this review can be
found at this link:
hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/medeff/b … 12-eng.php
Within Europe at the Pharmacovigilance Risk Assessment Committee, the EU is conducting our own
review of depression and related terms including suicidality. The results of this review will be available
later in the year.
As in previous correspondence, we would like to stress that patient safety is extremely important to us
and can assure you that we are continuing to monitor the risk-benefit for finasteride for male pattern
baldness.
Specific issues that we are monitoring include those around sexual dysfunction, which you have
previously reported. As well as this, all safety information relating to the use of finasteride in Europe is
reviewed in regular periodic safety update reports. This includes reviewing all adverse events reported
in the EU together with all relevant published literature and research (including information provided by
the Post Finasteride Syndrome Foundation).
We would like to thank you for contacting us and for the further follow information you have provided on
your experiences. If you have any further details regarding your own case that you think could be
useful, especially in regard to a medical endocrinology review, we would welcome this information. Any
new information should be quoted in relation to reference number ADR 22287889.
Yours faithfully
Alie Banner Simpson
Scientific Assessor
Benefit & Risk Management Group (Unit 1)
Medicines and Healthcare Regulatory Products Agency
Floor 3-O
151 Buckingham Palace Road
London
SW1W 9SZ
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No surprise there. The MHRA and other government regulatory bodies are funded by the pharmaceutical industry.
They are not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
Disgusting. I am shocked they’re not just saying there’s not enough evidence, but telling me that suicides in that age group are to be expected. Merck don’t even need a defence team - the regulators are doing it themselves!
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It appears that not enough men are killing themselves over a hair loss drug for their liking. They are wanting more deaths before it is statistically relevant enough for them to give a damn, and even then I have my doubts. It is amazing that a public body that should be protecting our “health” can not blatantly see that a risk/benefit analysis for a fecking hair loss drug is laughable at best and criminal at worst when the side effects for some are life changing and life ending.
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Not exactly true. At least not in the US. They are a little slicker about the corruption. The way it works is the top staff of most of the governmental agencies end up finding lucrative jobs in the area they formerly were in charge of regulating. So the bosses who control the underlings who make most of the decisions encourage them to avoid being too hard on particular drug companies.
I’ve been saying for years the pharma companies and the various western governments are in on the whole thing together. Its not even really that well hidden… same can be said for the financial services industry and the military-industrial complex. All the corruption is pretty well known by advocates and whistleblowers already.
Occasionally they will single out one of their own for prosecution but its usually only when they buck the system or become an issue for the other insiders that this happens. You gotta realize what we are dealing with here; it is a complete denial of scientific evidence and culpability. Its not that they don’t actually believe this is possible, its just that it doesn’t benefit them to admit it. Also, its sad but really hundreds of men could be killing themselves every-single-day from Finasteride and even then it would probably take a few weeks for them to recognize it. With millions of people under their jurisdictions in most of these countries these people really just don’t care.
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It is criminal no question. Its just that our countries have long put profits ahead of human beings. For all our modern progressivism, we are sadly extremely unhumanistic. As far as being statistically relevant. Well they can keep selling the trash and people will die. I highly encourage no more people to consider ending their own lives though… because it hurts these low-lifes more to have more of us alive, complaining and exposing their evil instead of dead and gone… which is exactly where they want us.
Please leave a comment on this forum they trying to say that Nick’s death was not caused by Finasteride.
Against my better judgement I created a profile on that wretched site and left a comment, although the nature of which will probably have me banned. I don’t know how you manage to go on to these sites. They just stress me out reading all the zealous denialists. You could show them irrefutable proof and they still would shout you down as if you were a pussy, whilst at the same time they spend hours online hanging out in a forum talking about their hair and taking photos of it. Oh, the irony.
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Well there are a few former members of that site on this site now… can’t have much better reverse-PR than that.
I joined that forum around the same time that I started taking Finasteride about 6 years ago.
It’s important to note that this drug is for hair loss, not a disease or a medical condition. If there is a risk of side effects, then people ought to remember that and think twice.
I just wonder if those people who go out of their way to defend Propecia on the hair loss forums are brain washed or are they getting paid to promote the drug ?
I think it’s probably that they have invested time and effort in the drug and they are just shutting their ears to it. If they feel that it is working for them and they care about their hair then it’s probably in their interest to shout us down.
And that they didn’t suffer side effects themselves, so they really can’t believe others would suffer anything, let alone suicidal thoughts.
Yeah, they dismiss our anecdotal evidence with their own experiences!
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It’s impossible to argue with some of those people on the hair loss forums Propecia is like a religion to them and they won’t have a bad word said against it.
I don’t think that it is impossible to argue with them, although in most cases it isn’t worth the effort as as you say they are resolutely blinkered and would even come up with some lame excuse even if a number of guys who took propecia’s dicks fell off - they would probably say that they must have been predisposed to penile disembarkation and this was just waiting to happen, that they know of many guys who’ve never taken propecia who have wobbly cocks that are on the verge of popping off, or that their own penises have come off but they just put it on their bathroom shelf with all their hair products…their hair is so precious to them they are willing to take this incredible gamble and will try and shout down the doubters. Maybe the occasional drive-by assault on them with some facts, figures, and real-life heartache, but a permanent encampment in these sites, reading all these denialists would be exhausting.