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These photos show my Jaw line becoming smaller in the past several years. This past year I have noticed increasingly smaller less masculine facial features








You would need to downsize those photos and date them, as well as showing more revealing ones in similar locations. Hard to judge, but it does seem that your jawline and chin are smaller today, although I cant say for sure from what you posted. I can tell you that my brother and myself have experienced the same. Combined with skin changes (thinning) and facial fat loss as well as dead/colorless hair (we used to have fantastic hair) it is really devastating. It has now stopped of course, readjusted to a new normal since about 1 year.

IT have been the same for me. Its really hard to handle but i started a collagen stimulator called Sculptra.
I did my first treatment about 3 month ago and did anotherone for one week ago. I havent seen any change yet but IT normaly takes several month.And at least tre treatment to see a change. I will post again when i Know how its Worked or not. Let us all keep fighting for a better future!

Yes this is not the end of the world but it takes a toll on my professional life and personal life for sure.

Wow how silly I was worried about my jaw line. I am glad to be alive. I have a blocked artery to my liver. Expecting surgery soon. I am planning on getting off Remeron very soon and may be taking low dose of trazadone for sleep. Did not realize Remeron increases cholesterol. My fight with PFS has been hard but Im not ready to die. Im ready to live. I will take 25mg of Zoloft during the day and a bit of trazadone at night to sleep. Going back to vegan diet.

I had better try to get off all meds for the sake of my kidneys and liver. Can’t be good to take daily pills for years.

Going through a rough tune getting off mirtazipine. Guys this condtition is very difficult. But i like to thank the strong men who have hung in there and chose to not give up. So my point is, never give up. Your strength may encourage others. Also if you give up that may cause others to lose hope. I for one, will not give up. I believe each life is unique. I believe we are not alone. I believe illness is part of life, no matter how extreme. I believe the future holds hope. Even if u have to take a very low dose antidepressant it’s not the end of the world. To get your brain working. I thank the long term members who are here, for not giving up and continue to find the positive things.

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What about off the shelf stuff? Do you know the correct “time” to take 5htp and what dosage?

Hmm idk. That stuff never worked well for me. SSRIs are the only thing that seemed to restore brain chemistry otherwise I’m a zombie

Yes, i can relate to facial changes… it’s crazy.
I dont even recognize myself anymore. Anyway, i know you have bigger problems
but here is a little device that helps alot
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https://www.ebay.com/i/272748197332?chn=ps

I’m sure there is bone loss, but alot of this is fat redistribution from estrogen sides and androgen insensitivity… if you can firm up the neck area the jaw will start showing again. its a simple device but pretty effective if used consistently

Better spirits lately. Working out every day, getting compliments at work. Feeling stronger again. Bring on summer time!

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scaredoutomymind is exactley right I have exact same symptoms for years now his case may be closest to mine I have read, Massive swelling and fluid/fat gain, dry dmamged hair and skin etc…I have also noticed the actual hair growth and pattern has changed from a more full and youthful in front to a thinner and more mature like pattern with no thinning on the top anymore since stopping the drug…Gordon told me my estrogen was perfect now and if it is estogen causing these terrible physical side effects it is not detectable in lab tests…Went from 31 to 38 inch waist and could barely get off the couch some mornings but Gordon helped me some…I feel for you dude the physical changes are the worst with friends not even recognizing you anymore its scary…I did not get the sexual sides like most others however…

Does this device really helps?
How does it work?

Yea, it tones up the skin in the jaw area, little bit on the forhead, and reduces fat under the chin… Ive used it off and on for years… they send 3 different springs, use the thickest one for a better workout…

Having some troubling symptoms, may be liver related. Weakness and pain in my side. Whatever happens I tell you I have fought like a mad man since 2012 when I took this drug and altered my life. I fought like a mad dog never giving up. Got knocked down but fought back over and over. Whatever happens next I’m damn proud of how far I’ve come and the life I’ve lead since PFS. I’ve traveled, met girls, made friends, made music, paid off debts, gave up addiction, lived my life on my terms. Every time I thought it was over and I had no hope I held out and found a reason for living. It won’t be the same, But I will have a life and live it without limitation.

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lifting weights is my go to always. Strong body and mind is a must!!

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Might we see a treatment in 2019?!?!

Now 6 yrs off propecia. Having symptoms of prostate inflammation. Pain after urinating and BMs, burning feeling around pelvic floor. Most men experience prostate issue, but I wonder if this is Pfs related. Very uncomfortable, urologist put me on antibiotics and NSAIDs hopefully this clears it.

Fyi, Nsaids might not be good for us - they cause hormonal level changes while being used.

what I have to have too. what do you feel in your heart?