How are things coming along at this point burrito?
Any increase in semen quantity, or propulsion?
Burito101, Unless I am mistaken, shockwave therapy is for erection (ie vascular system), not sensitivity.
For sensitivity, what I’d think you’d want to go for is low power laser therapy. It also is lower cost and relatively easily performed at many physical therapy centers (as the same machine is routinely used in a large variety of physical therapies).
Shot didnt do anything except very obviously increase erection strength. Its weird because I got this dick that can get super hard but because its kinda numb I can go forever. Its like a girls wet dream, dude with a super dick that can pound forever (not a lot of feeling). Its been almost 1 year since I took that stuff and I plan to make a 1 year update post on my original intro topic.
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Mine is the same man, I can get super hard erections but there’s no pleasure
Damn, sounds great. Would you mind PMing me the place where you got it done?
Have any of you considered the laser therapy mentioned in the paper I posted above?
Has there been success with the low-power laser therapy among the PSSD community?
I’ve only ever read about that one case study.
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@Knifli mentioned that that Dr. Waldinger, who performed the procedure in that study, passed away recently:
Same here. Can usually get crazy hard, probably more so than years ago, but the whole sensitivity thing can make me go for forever. It sounds awesome, but it isn’t always. Sex doesn’t always need to be a 30+ minute workout where she’s sore after. And it makes her feel bad if after all that you still can’t even finish. So yeah, I’m not loving it most of the time
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Agreed.
I think for the majority of women, after the first few months of a relationship at least, they would rather not have an everlasting turbo-humper, but someone who can finish in a moderate amount of time after they get theirs. Like 5-20 minutes.
I’ve seen a lot of frustration in some of the women I have been with over me not being able to finish. As if it’s more insulting to them than ED.
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Agreed.
He passed away and it’s very sad but you can get the therapy at practically any physical therapist. Just use the same method as they reported in the paper. Waldinger didn’t actually perform the therapy, by the way, if you read the paper. A physical therapist did.
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I can’t remember now. I was looking into it a few months ago and can’t recall what I found. Anyway, the procedure is not expensive and I think some people here should try it. Myself included. I’m trying something else right now (Addyi) but once this trial is over in a few months, the next thing I’m interested in is the laser therapy as lack of sensitivity is my second biggest problem only to lack of libido.
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Thanks for the warning. Just finished recommending the same point of view of trying to make the best of this condition, if at all possible, rather than frantically trying to cure it.
PRP sounds like a great way to compensate for PFS symptoms if it works as advertised. Are you certain that it damaged you, or do you feel it was more likely due to the aromatse inhibitors that have been reported by several to have made things much worse?
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I had a prp with dr Goldstein.
Goal was to create new healthy smooth muscle cells in my penis to compensate dead ones after 12 years of finasteride use.
There was a small but clear improvement after 1 month but it mostly faded away thereafter. I am also not sure if the improvement was from the prp or the two shockwaves I did simultaneously. So a small improvement at most; dont expect wonders…
(Full post here.)
Dr Goldstein says prp is experimental (some but no conclusive evidence about effectiveness) and provided the following information:
Concerning platelet-rich plasma (PRP), platelets have a crucial role in coagulation and promoting wound healing following injury and contain various growth factors (eg, fibroblast growth factor [FGF], platelet-derived growth factor [PDGF], vascular endothelial growth factor [VEGF]) responsible for regenerative functions, including the recruitment of stem cells, modulation of inflammatory responses, and stimulation of angiogenesis. The use of PRP in medical therapy has grown steadily since its introduction in 1987, with reports of use in orthopedics, otolaryngology, neurosurgery, dermatology, cardiothoracic surgery, dentistry, and now sexual medicine. PRP is prepared by centrifugation of the patients’ own blood to remove RBCs. This process separates the blood into 3 components: platelet-poor plasma, PRP, and RBCs. The initial or first spin (known as the hard spin) separates the platelet-poor plasma from the PRP and RBCs, and the second spin (soft spin) separates the RBC fraction from the PRP. The material with the highest specific gravity (ie, PRP) is deposited at the bottom of the tube. PRP contains various growth factors, including PDGF, transforming growth factor (TGF)-b1, and VEGF. When platelets are activated, they release these growth factors to promote angiogenesis and tissue healing. The use of PRP in orthopedic medicine is relatively well established; however, little robust evidence evaluating the efficacy of PRP in sexual medicine published to date. Furthermore, to our knowledge, no randomized, double-blinded, multicenter clinical trials of sufficient statistical power have been published that provide generalizable clinical data demonstrating the efficacy of PRP therapies in sexual medicine. There is emerging evidence suggesting that neurophilin ligands and growth factors, such as insulin growth factor-1 (IGF- 1), PDGF, and VEGF, play significant roles in neural regeneration and up-regulation of neuronal nitric oxide synthase, as well as in the recovery of erectile function after cavernous nerve (CN) injury. Two groups have published animal model studies regarding the effects of PRP on the recovery of erectile function in rats based on a cavernous nerve injury model. Ding et al found that immediate application of PRP resulted in a significantly higher mean maximal intracavernosal pressure (ICP) and maximal ICP/MAP (mean arterial pressure) ratio compared with those in the injured control group at 3 months of follow-up. Although animal studies have shown potential for PRP to facilitate the recovery of erectile function, they have included only limited sample sizes and have acknowledged that clinical effects may vary depending on dose, preparation method, and administration. Importantly, investigators agree regarding the need for further research on PRP before this therapy has widespread adoption. The basic idea behind PRP injection is to deliver high concentrations of growth factors to an area that has pathology.
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Any updates? I plan do the shockwave therapy.
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