So of the recommendations we all gave you, have you started any of them? You need to get off your ass and work.
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I dont really understand what to do. I havent eaten today yet since like 20 o clock yesterday. Was in the gym did light cardio with compoundexercises. Only thing I did was some garlic after gym. Was in the sun for 2-3hours. I feel freaking tired now and am cuddled in my fkin bed. This is unbeliveable.
You should eat, do not stress your hormonal level now. It’s not time for fasting directly after the crash. Fasting trigger hormonal fluctuations. Eat and live like a normal day before you crashed. Do not drink alcohol and avoid hard training.
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Basically, nobody knows what to do.
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So yea I see it right. If I have PFS it’s over. Nothing of this is in my head. Noone here has made any recoveries. I’m in shambles and dont even know how to cope. Cant tell anyone and esp not my parents. Their only son made himself impotent what a fkin comedy
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That’s also totally not true, believe me there are several who have, probably many more who never came back (we do get the odd person sign in after years who got better) and natural recovery is quite likely after a couple of weeks or months. Also I know of a few from Reddit and elsewhere who just got better.
Please try and stay calm, like Greek and I keep saying the chances are you’ll get better. People with PFS are hugely rare.
Relax as much as you can, don’t try and take anything to recover, just let your body do it’s thing and don’t stress.
There’s new studies coming, this website definitely isn’t the only place looking into this either. But right now you have to wait a few weeks and see. I know that’s difficult, you can DEFINITELY believe me that I know too, but please wait and stay as calm as you can friend.
EDIT - I’ve just read back, apart from the panic right now all you’ve got so far is some ED? My GP (who, again, has prescribed this to hundreds of people) hasn’t EVER seen anyone who didn’t recover from that. Ever. Until me. Just think about how likely it makes it that you’ll mend.
I know it’s a shock, I really do, but the best thing you can do right now is stay as calm as possible and ride it out. I’m sure you’ll be ok.
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Hi @imscaredman,
I am very sorry to hear your experience - as you’ve probably discovered antiandrogenic hair loss treatments are not safe. I am as involved as one could be with making progress on this issue and I have read the decade+ of this forum entirely. Firstly, while this condition is not dose dependent, it is not possible to say you have PFS at this time. What you are experiencing currently is a side effect due to your recent use of this medication and you should maintain hope, as other members rightly have said, that this will resolve in some weeks. PFS is a lasting and highly variable post drug disorder, and you will need to give it a lot more time before even beginning to conclude the things you are, let alone worry about what individual members are doing for therapeutic attempts. Thankfully PFS is very rare in statistical terms and very severe cases are not the norm within that. I can at least assure you many people have reported a reaction like yours and improved over the following months, and while some attribute it to this and that there’s no common denominators. I would strongly advise not getting hung up on anything but self care for the moment, try and rest yourself, stay off this forum (it is for support for patients after all and just reading and reading isn’t going to change things) and see how you are in two weeks.
Please know this community will be here for you in whatever way if you are still having problems at that point.
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I seem to have all the symptomps other have… the sleep shit I cant fall asleep. My brain feels like exploding and my heartbeat is def stronger and way more noticeable. And I have absolutely 0 connection to my dick. It has this slight burning sensation. Ballache subsided a little but still present. Always when I try to get hard I feel like Im going to pee. In addition I think to feel fukin breast tenderness too (felt it immediately after taking fin too but then subsided and ed came inplace).
Yesterday after taking fin, my errection stayed for like 2 full minutes longer. Like halferrect but not subsiding. And after that the shit went loose.
In addition my head feels hot or like im close to break a sweat
Am really grateful for the responds tho. It’s hard to be grateful for anything right now…
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Yes you probably will do, it’s to be expected. Right now enzymes and hormones in you are probably going a bit haywire trying to re-calibrate.
I cannot for the life of me remember the username, but what you describe is similar to another guy I’m thinking of and different to what I had - I had the “traditional” crash you see, but you don’t seem to be doing the same. Which I’m honestly going to say sounds good in my opinion.
…You know what happened to this other guy? He got better in a couple of months. Just like the vast majority do. I will try and dig that one up. Annoyingly I don’t recall it now.
The next few weeks will probably be very tough. That’s normal (well, finasteride normal) and you can expect ups and downs rather than a sort of ‘linear’ recovery I’d say.
Stay as calm as you can, listen to Axo above (he REALLY knows his stuff) and maybe stay away from the forum a bit. Be selfish with your time for a while too. Do something nice to distract yourself a bit.
I’m sure you’ll be ok in time.
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Would you mind explaining me the difference between the crashes?
I can tell you how mine went and how, as far as I’ve read, the majority go.
I took fin for 8 pills, over 4 weeks, 4x1mg pills one week, then a maintenance dose of 0.5mg Monday, Weds and Fri. At the time I was ALSO taking Saw Palmetto (and for a little while after too, had no idea it could do this too you see.) I got a slight instance of ED one night and thought “right, that’s it, enough for me.” And then I stopped the fin, and was totally OK for about two weeks after - to the point I just fully forgot I ever took it. Then the ED came back and within a couple of days I got the sleeplessness, mental sides etc.
That’s the “textbook” crash I think. Some folks do indeed crash whilst on it, but I’m not fully sure you have even had the “crash” yet tbh. To actually get PFS at this point you’d have to be unlucky enough to get sides from fin (majority don’t) and unlucky enough to not recover in a few weeks (most do) and then after that so overwhelmingly unlucky that one single 0.25mg pill did it (this is now into lottery-winning-odds territory.)
So if you’re wanting to analyse that and look for patterns and everything, trust me I’m way ahead of you and so is Greek and so is Axo, and cleverer people than me and you with more experience of PFS than me and you are getting into your thread here to tell you in all likelihood you’ll recover. So try and believe us - we’ve been around here a while and we know things. 
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This is not true at all. Pls stay positive for now.
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I’m really grateful, and I read everything you guys write. Incase it doesn’t come over as such/.
I just had my first mental breakdown crying like a little kid, probably first in my life and I’m 29. I wanted to have kids, I’ve build a business and now I feel this is all going to waste. I’m trembling and shaking. I can’t get an errection, it’s not connected anymore, there’s 0 reaction to any kind of stimuli and I’m just frightened. Should I really just “wait”? Not take viagra/cialis or so asap and try to get fkin anything moving? Another dose of fin seems out of the question, but what if it doesnt get better at all in 1-2weeks? Why not try then? Maybe it needs a bouncing back effect? A guy on reddit freaked out about fullED and took one more dose of 0,5 after 4 days of ed and it lifted at the 6th day… im shaking, this is not something I can cope with for too long… at all
I’ve heard Fin can have a halflife of 4-7h, but some people on reddit say it faks dht production for 7 days, duta for 1-3months Is there any truth to that? Should I get bloodwork done tomorrow?
And thanks every single one of you souls again and again, you’re really giving me a place to be…
ok I calmed tf down, still dk how I can be chill when this shit keeps going tomorrow etc xD uf its so rough xd
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Sorry I’m on the move rn but really quick, glad you’re calming and NO MORE FIN!
Relax and yes indeed, just wait. No cialis or anything. Wait it out friend. Stay strong and positive.
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You should really see a therapist and get some coping strategies to deal with all of this. Playing Dr with your own body could cause serious harm, you are in no fit state to take fin again. Those decisions based on an emotional state will do you no good. If you feel stressed now imagine how bad you’ll feel if you make things worse. It could drive you to suicide as it’s done with many other guys. Get therapy, calm your mind with meditation, cold showers help with mood and give your body time to recover. Your body is also freaking out, don’t make things worse.
Well it hardly can get worse. Not being able to have kids is the worst thing I can imagine for me personally. I’d rather see tipps how to fight this instead how to accept this, because I def not gonna wait 5-10 years for this to just MAYBE pass. Id rather die trying to fix it.
It can get, much, much, much worse. Do not take further risks with your health.
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I do not know what advise you have done saying that it can get worse…really
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Fk Im still at absolute 0 connection to my dick. Like the receptors died completely off. I can get to like 15% errection by mechanical stimulation but thats it. 0 with my brain.
The other sides are pretty rough but I dont care, I can hide all that. Gonna hit some melantolin and try to flush that shit out my head. I can literally feel the pressure that I dont seem to get rem sleep and it starts to build waste up there
Allright just updating and probably will keep this here as a personal journal just incase. And I literally dont care if some of this sounds weird xd
Dikk feels burning. 10% errection after mechanical stimulu but 0 with mind.
Extreme headpressure
Hot head and slight sweats
Extreme thirst faded.
Dick doesnt look complete rubber anymore and looks similar to pre-fin. Just cant get any blood pumping in there from my brain.
So I tried to get at least 6h sleep tonight. Woke up with huge brainfog and extreme headpressure while sweating. Still total apathy to my own reflection in the mirror and to everything around me. And my hearing feels impaired and I have to yawn a lot like Im ina fkin airplane(wtf?). I play Piano and my mind seems fine, just 0 pleasure of everything.
Am fasting and took in the morning quite a lot of supps which I thought might help and they actually did. An 30min-1hour later brain fog started to get way less and apathy slowly faded and I regained pleasure of interacting. Brain still feels like hit by a brick 24/7, but it’s not brainfog anymore.
Still feel slight sense of disorientation the whole time but overall most of this is somewhat bearable now. Slight shaky hands too.
Idk if its my libido or just wish to be able to love women again but I keep inducing (forcing maybe) sexual thoughts inthere from time to time but no reaction from bottomside. Worst is I get a girl close now for the whole next week and ye… nothing I can do there and she probably will think I dislike her. Just hope this shit gets better.
Ah and breasttenderness was very strong after sleep and still present but very slight.
I feel fat tho(Im not fat), but its like all my fatdeposits make notice of themselves instead of my dick. So still think its high estrogen. Gonna try to bring it a bit down with diet and lifestyle. Guess thats all for now.