My skin is breaking down. It’s like dough and just sags everywhere and is loose EVERYWHERE . You can physically see the degeneration in the tissue. It used to be tight around my body but I just look like disgusting now especially after sodium butyrate destroyed me
I’m so sorry to see how much your skin has been affected, @hippydoof
As @LazarusRy says, I really appreciate you sharing.
I’m experiencing similar.
Thank you @LazarusRy and @Scotsman it really truly sucks to see your body falling apart. As horrible as it is i am glad I am not alone
Fuck, I am so lucky that sodium butyrate didn’t do this to me, but then I got burned by NAD+. It’s about time that threads about specific supplements, drugs, or nutraceuticals get flagged with warnings for potentially devastating outcomes.
There are no words to express how horrible this disease can be.
Is NAD + a demethylation agent?
Found NAD can change metabolism (in rats), which in turn can cause obesity and diabetes 2, which can cause epigenetic changes.
Other then that. I haven’t found too much in the short time I’ve looked for it.
Have you noticed metabolic changes since taking it?
It’s crazy how downplayed it is on websites not dedicated to PFS. The message is basically that it’s worth the gamble that you might get some sexual side effects that will go away eventually. Which is a hard gamble not to take when you’re just trying to compete in life.
The funny thing is i didn’t get any sexual side effect, i have got disabled instead
Me to can’t even mow my own yard or go get groceries by myself gained 100lbs to weak to walk…
I understand…You gained weight? I lost all the muscles and fat i had
really？it is so amazing，people always loss weight
I gained weight for 5 years, my upper abdomen/chest always looked swollen too (estrogen) then it dropped off overnight and I lost all of my strength and developed muscle, collagen and cartilage loss
I actually gain muscle faster it seems. Pumps in the gym are insane too, and strength numbers keep increasing.
Probably due lack of 5AR enzyme acitivity, leaving more test available for muscles.
I gained a bunch of fat all over my legs and belly along with losing all my muscle tone. It’s disgusting and makes me feel like a slob. I eat half of what I used to. My metabolism is screwed up.
My overall weight isn’t that much higher though it’s just I look like a slob because I literally lost all muscle tone and it got replaced with fat.
Very uncommon in PFS patients, infact i am reading this for the first time that PFS made me stronger.
Do you do resistance training then?
No i cannot, PFS didn’t make my muscles stronger, instead it disabled them.
When i try to exercise, my muscles get very stiff and i start to have this excruciating pain, lost 30 pounds of sheer muscles within the first week of quitting Fin which later got transitioned into fat, i don’t feel any androgen pump which a normal guy feels after heavy lifting. I have got this severely hit in every muscle portion, most of us have but in my case, i even loose balance while walking, joints keep cracking all the time since they aren’t being hold by the muscles properly. I am still trying to taper up exercising slowly, maybe some mild ones.