First link has nothing to due with selling products, second is just a desert to it, as you can see.
First link is trying to sell products — candida-society.org/ncs/products.htm
… albeit these are simply links to other sites. And BTW – the first link’s article has NO scientific journal references to back it up.
I’m sorry, I’m very skeptical by nature so unless you can provide scientific materials referencing your claims, I will remain as such. If others want to believe you based on whimsical claims, so be it.
Scientific, peer reviewed info on Candida and info on testing:
emedicine.com/emerg/topic76.htm
emedicine.com/ped/topic312.htm
*** WARNING, graphic photos at bottom of pages.
I am looking for the text about Candida affecting hypothalamus, as I am preety sure that I read about it in the past.
Will also try to find some more info about Candida development within the most friedly environment of progesteron dominance.
It is very likely that systemic 5 alpha reductase inhibitors which raise Testosteron/Progesteron levels via reduction in the 5-alpha-DHT, may build Candida friendly environment in the long run.
It would explain why side effects occure after some time of the treatment, and would also explain why probiotics and anti-yeast drugs like nystatine help to tolerate Finasteride better.
I want to focus on Candida and all other systemic fungal toxication theory.
Candida and other fungal toxins are extremely tricky.
It is already known that these toxins produce 17-beta-estradiol plus and mimic TSH fucking up Thyroid functions and pirituary as well.
If you look it up you will find that broccoli, zinc, b6 can act as a natural aromatase inhibitor. It means that serving it for yourself will directly interact with possible fungal toxins body redistribution. Remember that most of you get improvments from it.
What stands behind my clamis is the fact that my hormonal levels are normal, with middle range estradiol. If my endocrine system produce normal levels of estrogen, where this general high estrogen feeling comes from…
Most propable we are dealing with massive fungal toxication which compete with our own endocrine system via vide variaty of toxins.
I have only mentioned those which are known in medicine, there are obviosly some other that are not well understood in terms of their action.
Do not expect that you will find this subject popular among medical society. This is first and most unwanted subject among pharmaceutical industies. There are many drugs especialy immunosuppresants, psychiatric, antibiotics that may lead to candida in a long run.
I sugest you to investigate it further… cheers
Look also for: Broccoli with Diindolymethane byproduct of I3C has a anti-estrogen properties.
We’ve gone through this candida idea a gazillion times. Why do people come here and start preaching that this is the cause of our problems? I admit at first I was so desperate I wanted to believe it was candida too (same with adrenaline fatigue) but over time after doing lots of reading and through personal experience I now doing believe it at all. Sorry but candida isn’t gonna bend or shrink your dick, give you breasts, or cause you intense anxiety and depression right after taking a 1mg does of Fin. Plus for many of us, we didn’t start suffering side effects until 2 to 4 weeks AFTER we quit. I took it for 7 years, quit and then according to you got candida? I don’t think so. Fin directly affects the 5AR type 2 enzyme and this explains both sexual and mental side effects that we are suffering. Do some serious reading on this site about it and stop believing that candida is your problem, it’s a dead end.
Not to mention the fact guys have only taken the medication for a few days at most (certainly not long enough for “candida” to take hold – which of course it doesn’t from Finasteride use) and yet they still end up with long-term problems and hormone issues post-Fin.
We’ve been over this “candida theory” (which is really nothing more than a yeast infection) before, it really does not hold water here. This is NOT the “most possible theory to our situation” at all, in fact it’s the most REMOTE possible theory.
The drug’s primary mechanism of action is hormonal and blockade of 5AR metabolites, both in the brain and in serum – NOT inducing systemic fungal infections (which, by the way, have never been documented to occur, thanks to Finasteride, in ANY medical literature I’ve come across, even in longterm studies. However, numerous hormonal changes, blocked 5AR-reduced metabolites and antiandrogen/androgen receptor impacts have been noted as being caused by the drug).
Candida does not make your dick shrink, give you Peyronie’s Disease or give you gyno – but hormonal imbalances can, especially when you use Fin to change your hormonal profile to match that of a pseudohermaphrodite.
Do not keep posting about this “theory”, this is not a quackery website. I already banned you once Majkellos, you’ve chosen to come back under a different username and continue to propogate your so-called ridiculous “theories” without any scientific proof, under the guise that they are the solution to everyone’s problem. You’re lucky I haven’t banned you again (yet), so don’t press your luck. Leave the candida stuff alone, it really has no basis in reality here.
I would strongly recommend you to read more about long term fungal infections.
Fungal toxins can cause ginecomastia due to 17-beta-estradiol being produced by some of these parasites. (it can shrink your dick too)
It can obviously alter your hormonal profile too. It can also make you hypothyroid giving you the Cushing desease look.
You suggest me to do some serious reading then go for it too…
I found 2 books of Polish Profesors of medicine who explained phenomenon of fungal infections, but this is in Polish. If you want me I can give you the names of these book and the place you can buy them over the internet.
Finally. It does not matter how long someone took the drug. It is individual and depends on the auto immune balance. If someone was exposed to different variety of desease, took some antibiotics before, the breakthrough point for the further systemic fungal infection might be different.
If you want to do some serious reading on the phenomenon of systemic fungal desease I can give you great books, but it is in Polish.
PS: Mew… I do not really care you can bann me if it makes you happy and satisfied and will make a step forward to your recovery.
can we ban this idiot again, once and for all?
…wouldn’t be so sure abou that while reading your sience-fiction posts
You are offending me again.
I already have, based on above posted links. Plus, the fact that Finasteride does NOT cause candida, makes your points completely moot, not to mention you do not provide any peer-reviewed scientific journals to backup your claims.
As for Finasteride causing candida – I think you have it the wrong way around.
sciencedirect.com/science?_o … 2aa37bb11e
Finasteride is an azasteroid, thus it should help COMBAT candida if anything.
Candida is most often brought upon by an upset of balance in the “good” vs “bad” bacteria in the stomach, often due to a diet rich in simple carbs and sugars, or prior use of antibiotics which wiped out the “good” bacteria, thus enabling candida to start taking hold. Finasteride has NOTHING to do with this.
It’s funny how everytime someone challenges you on your “theories” you have nothing to back up your claims. Anyway, this topic is done, there is nothing more to be said here.
I only used Accutane for 2 days, is there any chance i get candida from it? I have low semen volume issues…
I mean is this theory only acceptable for the people who used Finasteride for LONG period of times? Could candida rise up in two days of usage?
From reading what the guy writ at the top, a lot of symptoms I have like athletes foot, over range testosterone, this strange rash I get that comes and goes, gut problems, could be caused by this. This Candida theory makes people angry tho, but maybe for some people it can be part of the problem? Have I read a thread in this forum about propecia changing gut microbiome? If it does change gut microbiome maybe that’s how it gets hold and bad over growths start. To cross this off the list I’ve got my self a huge bottle of yeast raiders to see if they have any affect.
I think it’s safe to say that given this thread had been dormant for TEN YEARS that it probably didn’t shed any light.
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Post your results with the yeast pls.
Hi Cooper, I’ve not taken any tests, just taking yeast raider capsules as a precaution.
Before taking Accutane I had a moment when my groin itched. I applied an anti-fungal agent and it disappeared. At the time I read that it could be caused by the Candida bacteria.
I don’t understand the relationship with PAS and PFS, can someone explain it to me? (English is not my language, it’s not clear).
Thank you
While we don’t have a scientifically proven explanation, it’s expacted to be found that we’re looking at the same thing with slightly different triggers.
Please join in with these projects to help the process along.
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I don’t understand English very well, do I absolutely have to buy a test on 23andme.com? Do I need the $99 or $199 test?
I am 18 years old, I am a student and I have not spoken to any of my relatives about PAS, that is a lot of money for me.
Do we know how many people with PAS participated in this survey?
In concrete terms, what are the benefits that this research could bring? What are 23andme.com’s intentions and can they resell our data, store it or use it dishonestly?
It is difficult to understand and analyze everything in a foreign language, trying to get the right information. I hope someone can enlighten me as simply as possible.
Thank you.