Peripheral discussions regarding Baylor Study

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#14

I don’t want to sound disrespectful in his memory but speaking of celebrities, I always suspected the swedish DJ Avicii suffered with PFS. Of course I don’t know nothing and he also had some mayor problems with his bladder, pancreas etc. but his body changes look a lot like a PFS victim.

He was loosing his hair in a early age and always wore a cap, I had a feeling that he always tried to hide it. Of course when he was a celebrity I can imagine he was presented with every option available.

He also had an extreme fatigue when training, and his look had an dramatically change during time before his suicide.

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#15

Avicii’s death is absolutely the result of prescription drugs - as has been for most dead celebrities in recent times - even if not finasteride. He had a severe opioid problem and perhaps a psychiatric drug problem as well, although the latter is just a hunch.

#16

I wonder could he share with us his knowledge and thoughts regarding this condition. I know he participated in baylors’ and other related studies, buy I think everyone would appreciate his unnoficial opinion. Not sure if he is actually aware of existence of this forum.

#17

There are two outcome.is epigenetic or is no epeigenetic.

1-If no epigenetic then the soluction will be to find out what type of neurons cells are affected and replaced them wthe with stem cells, it problably it going to take years to this get done.

2-If epigenetic probably it is also going to be complicated using a therapy with a direct modification or if use indirect activation of the genes with a global demethylatins agents could be probably risky.

NO EASY WAY OUT.

If epgenetic I go for the global demethylatins agent.
If not epeigenetic then maybe we are going to need ti intent stem cells nasal delivery to see what happen.

#18

There are hundreds of possibilities between those two scenarios, though. Why are those the only two options? Replacing neurons with stem cells by shoving them up our nose? Where did you come up with that treatment? And the “epigenetic theory” or any other theory has not been proven yet, so don’t set your sights on risky demethylating agents that have devastating side effects on the cancer patients that use them…

We need to be open to the cause of PFS before we start talking about extremely unlikely treatments. Only way to get to the cause of PFS is to be patient and wait for the current studies, and keep on raising money for future projects. Without reseach, we’re literally just guinea pigging ourselves and reporting whether or not supplements/drugs help us out.

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#19

What on Earth makes you think this is a solely neurological condition or that stem cells would fix erroneous epigenetic reprogramming?

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#20

At this point we are all guessing, it just a debate, but obviously or problem is in out brain, what ever your fell down to the dick and toes is processed in our brain, numb dick, libido, anxiety, panic attack, depression is a result how our brain is working.
I said: If the problem is NO epigenetic only stem cell is the only think that will come to play to save the game.

#21

Too many people claim improvements via various supplements like amio acids, or herbs. If the excact mechanism or gene or whatever is revealed then there will be a possibility to treat the symptoms via different medications. I think it will be hard to restore everyone easily, maybe in 10-20 years. But I quess it wont be hard to treat people’s symptoms or get more accurate ideas how we can fix or endo systems via substituting certain hormones and neurotransmitters.

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#22

No, a problem with the brain doesn’t cause penile atrophy, muscle wastage, or changes in bone and collagen structure of the face as occurs with some of the more severe cases of PFS and PAS.

There are even some PSSD patients with mild physical sides like dry skin , hair, and eyes.

Considering some of the GnRHa victims who have been devastated physically, it is outright outlandish to state this as a strictly neurological condition.

Obviously not caused by a “brain problem”.

Then let’s please keep the guessing limited to mechanisms that can explain the overexpression of androgen receptor in the penile tissue of PFS patients before making declarative statements. It is one of the site rules regardless:

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#23

Gimme some stem cells and gene editing. Forget that people have been cured by some basic herbs and amino acids, can’t be that simple.

Is there a roll eyes emoji on this forum? Because some of these ideas are borderline crazy

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#24

Ok but isnt it also absurd to suggest that facial bone wasting, facial collagen loss, penile shrinkage, muscle wastage and severe mental symptoms like concentration loss and anhedonia can be solved by a simple herb?

To me that idea can be laid to rest as well.

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#25

Cmon guys, maybe you should fight over your theories based on nothing?

#26

humanbiology is very complex.

It could be the case that we have to only supplement one specific hormon or neurotransmitter to cure most of the symptoms.

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#27

you guys just need some spice

i can´t say its the only thing affecting me cause it´d be hypocritical but i started injecting intramuscular DMT some weeks ago and i think im in a better place

and like Dubya said its not something “in your brain” by any means, it can be a catalyst…which can leverage a recovery, that is all

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#28

Injecting dmt? Is it the same as smoking dmt or drinking ayahasucha? Do you have trips?

I’ve been interested in both dmt and ayahasucha (specially ayahasucha) because of the result how people with permanent depression changed their lives.

#29

An account of healing depression using ayahuasca plant teacher medicine in a Santo Daime ritual

#30

there are thick medical books on Ayahuasca curing all kinds of issues yeah

Santo daime church is from where i live btw
never searched for them, always did my own at home or in the jungle with a shaman

i tried many roa’s and each one is a unique experience but i prefer injecting it intramuscularly, it’s safe, stable(lasts 1h on the clock) a nice compromise between the intensity of smoking vs the stability of pharmahuasca…

as for the recipe you need one mol of acid per 100mg pure DMT, i just mix wih 0.7ml of vinegar heat it to dissolve and inject in the ventrogluteus, never had a problem but you can also use a syringe filter

doses i tried are 120-180mg

#31

I’m a PSSD guy and I have all those physical sides you mentioned plus severe penile atrophy. I would guess my androgens are fucked up as well. I think only some PSSD people get hit with these sides though. Lucky me smh

#32

Avoid posting to this thread unless the post is relevant to the Baylor study.

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#33

We all the PFS we are also PSSD, we all are traumatized too.