If you try to masterbate, it is going worse? .Then, your testo and dht rises up. The good thing is your 5ar works, man.
You cannot do TRT, man. Your level is high enough, but dht is too high. Your AR are upsentisized obviously. Why dont you accept that?
The only thing is prog and/or baking soda at the moment and water fasting as it brings down androgens and can resentisise your AR.
Who told you TRT will help in your situation? Most guys failed this way.
In some ways testosterone is linked to sensitivity. That said, no one tested the thiamine triphosphate neurotransmitter (TTP). Try it does not harm, it was recommended by a doctor.
@noprop The more I masturbate, the worse the situation, feel more disconnected, softer, and the color in purple and dryness has also changed. I have a discomfort as a tear to the glans, it is a feeling that I did not have before.
Ttp is interesting…Acetyl L carnitine and R alpha lipon acid help with nerve damage as paleo diet and prog!
Once again: your 5ar seems to be running very well. Your testo is good. Your TRT won’t do anything just worsen the situation. Your AR upregulated! It means they are incredibly sensitive too androgens, but you weren’t before. That’s why they are shut down.
You must decrease dht asap to reopen receptors and avoid further inflammation.
I can tell you that thousand times but you must understand what upregulated AR means.
You are loosing time. Am afraid. Out here and good luck.
what do you do if dht is really low?
Yes. I can also add Acetyl L-carnitine. Alpha lipoic acid absolutely no!
Alpha lipoic acid blocks androgen receptors just like Finesteride!
“ A group of α-lipoic acid N-phenylamides were synthesized employing a variety of amide coupling protocols utilizing electron deficient anilines. These compounds were then assessed for their ability to block androgen-stimulated proliferation of a human prostate cancer cell line, LNCaP. These structurally simple compounds displayed anti-proliferative activities at, typically, 5-20 μM concentrations and were comparable to a commonly used anti-androgen Bicalutamide®. The inclusion of a disulfide (RS-SR) moiety, serving as an anchor to several metal nanoparticle systems (Au, Ag, Fe(2)O(3), etc.), does not impede any biological activity. Conjugation of these compounds to a gold nanoparticle surface resulted in a high degree of cellular toxicity, attributed to the absence of a biocompatible group such as PEG within the organic scaffold.” (A comparative assessment of α-lipoic acid N-phenylamides as non-steroidal androgen receptor antagonists both on and off gold nanoparticles. LC Henderson, JM Altimari, G Dyson, L Servinis, B Niranjan and GP Risbridger, Bioorganic chemistry, Feb 2012 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22196975 1)
To be avoided like the plague! @wlan he was impressed for this! soft erections, light penis, wrinkled penile skin, and soft penis head It would be suicide!
You have it AS well though having very high androgens! Progr is also kinda antiandrogen. This is what you need. Don’t you understand?
Your A receptors are too sensitive for androgens. You need to BRING THEM DOWN ASAP. NOT rising. If you masterbate you are uprising them. You need to bring dht down at least. So, Alpha Lipon Acid is only problematic when you are normal, but not on upregulated AR.
Then even taking prog would kill you. But won’t. Dht is killing your AR.
I HAVE UNDERSTOOD your situation absolutely.
Re ttp - if the AR or other receptors in the brain are also upregulated, ttp won’t help you. Just for a short time. But try it.
I wrote what you could do immediately. One protocol at once.
I am out here cause I am repeating myself. You have all information. Good luck.
Ppl try andractim or titan dht gel in order to get higher dht levels. Andractim works systematically, Titan gel locally.
Andractim could restart 5ar by raising dht - this is the link.
But the question is if you need to raise up dht. Or better not. That’s why I have been saying show me all your hormon levels and tell me how you feel. Then we know if raising androgens helps or not.
In most cases, high androgen levels don’t help due to upregulated AR. So the MAINQUESTION is how to reopen/downsentisise the AR.
PROG cycling is possible together with tribulus. This protocol is to be found somewhere here.
Or ella (antiandrogen) cycling.
On this protocols, androgen levels decrease, AR can reopen, androgen levels rise a bit during break. Then decreasing again can help reopen even more.
Or my suggestion: taking prog for longer time at a low dose, then slowly increasing dosage, staying on that, and then decreasing dosage slowly. NOBODY tried that so far. Only cycling.
Andractim shut down recently, r andro labs were raided, its like someone is going after every single thing that might help us… whats next proviron ban?
It is not to inhibit solutions cause most ppl don’t feel good AFTER raising dht levels.
Rising dht levels is good for normal ppl - okay? They profit, not us. Cause high dht levels in normal males (the majority!) makes them alpha males with super high potency and power.
Androhard was also shut down.
As I said, there is an Agenda to destroy men in the first world by antiandrogens, estrogens, bisphenol A etc. So all stuff helping men getting higher dht levels (the! male hormone) will be forbidden.
But antiandrogens like fin are promoted.
From the same ppl behind.
Fin is not developed to help ppl with prostate or mob, cause prostate issues can be easily treated naturally by sulphorafane and low estro! but good androgen levels (dht!). And only M. said dht was responsible for mpb. That’s bs. Fin is a huge cortisol blocker. So high cortisol levels could be responsible as well as cortisol needs the same receptors as dht does if I remember well.
That’s why (I said it several times) there won’t be a cure. Cause Pharma is surveilling those studies. If they can shut down a company by saying it to the FDA, they can also control studies. That’s why some could not be published yet.
PPL are naive and think that all can be solved by science and law and they forget what ultimate power is behind science and law. Ppl can call me conspiracy theorist if they like.
9 years passed by and it is the same light but man this is life. some people are worse. I have learned to live with this.
I want to add i think after 9 yeres there is some small improvement.
Have you read my posts here?
What have you done so far? What are your symptoms yet?
Have you any current blood work or other test result?
I had 30+ symptoms from anhedonia (that is inhuman) to total sleep deprivation and absolute mitochondrial dysfunction (CFS) to out of body experience and no reading and memorizing ability. Sometimes wasn’t able to ejaculate or orgasm etc. The list would be very long.
I did a lot of research and did lots of things.
We can get better if we are open minded but critical as well.
Hi Kitsunebi,
Both @awor and myself are doing all we can, but unfortunately neither of us are in a position to offer a safe therapeutic suggestion currently which is partly why we don’t tend to jump into these threads and focus on the one step at a time work. As you might imagine owing to a disease state that many ignorant physicians still claim doesn’t exist, it’s a very complex situation with significant phenotypical differences between sufferers.
I do not personally believe blood flow to be a driving factor in what you’re experiencing. In terms of stimulation making it worse, masturbation and sexual activity increases serum prolactin levels which in turn have an upregulatory effect on AR protein expression. We believe the noted AR overexpression in PFS patients may have a critical role in the pathology and therefore, if you are severely affected, this could exacerbate symptoms. I am well aware it sucks.
For safety I always advise being cautious about therapeutic suggestions you are unsure about in the absence of a convincing rationale, as those more severely affected can often be more readily hurt from doing so. This is my personal opinion and everyone is of course free to pursue what they believe is worthwhile, and obviously there’s lots of anecdotes regarding what people have tried/are trying in the therapeutic efforts section.
All the best
Ciao @axolotl! So, if it is not due to lack of blood… it means that it is apopstosis of smooth muscle tissue? 
Believe me, my penis is like a feather, as if it were air instead of blood, completely empty I feel it! Yes, The more I try to masturbate, and the penis gets worse, feel more and more dry and disjointed, the color changes to purple!! Fuck! 
Hang in there buddy. The penis can rehabilitate and repair itself. In the medium term stem cell and shockwave therapy has been showing great results at clinical trials and it has been regenerating tissue. Of course we need to find the biological basis of pfs, which hopefully the Baylor and Melchangi research will help elaborate, and maybe a combination of treatments will be used to treat pfs patients. Anyway you may also find a protocol that helps or improve naturally over time.
I did another ecocolordoppler today the blood flow is right they told me I have nothing! So, why is my penis atrophied, insensitive, light and lifeless? It seems absurd! 
because your AR doesnt work anymore. DHT can’t do its job. Fix the AR and I’m sure everyones dick will recover.
Friend, my DHT is insane…
The more I try to stimulate and the more it gets worse become more atrophied and red skin
You don’t get it. If your ANDROGEN RECEPTOR doesn’t work your DHT can be over 9000 and you would still have every single symptom. DHT isnt your problem here. Its the AR.
Also, stop stimulating/masturbating or whatever and focus on something else!
