Guys I used to lurk on PHelp many years ago when there were very, very few recovery stories. I remember people going wild about some guy called dustin who took super high trt, because nobody else was getting better.
I spoke with cdnuts via pm and he was helpful and legit. It’s clear that many people who follow what he does, or some variation of it like Chi, are able to make good progress and even get better.
There are many, many cases of it now like I wouldn’t jave believed ten years ago. I think some members and mods need to stop jumping on people who try it and try to talk about it here, it gives hope to new sufferers. I think thgere should be a subforum in this new site design, like the old recoveries section (yes there was one, though it wasn’t always legit so I understand that it was closed). But a place where people who have got back to near normal can report what worked for them.
For myself I made good strides taking some supplements and doing some light exercise, eating healthy pro androgenic or antis estrogenic foods also helped a lot.
Sadly I crashed again after years (see my story) but I can vouch for natural healing.