Oneday's PCT to Recovery (Correcting HPTA with Nolvadex and hCG)

hi scaredmale30 from London, it’s good to hear from a UK pal and please say hi to the Queen for me. :smiley:

I have been tackling the sleep issue thang for 2 yrs now and my suggestions is that you get the following:

melatonin
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10317123

  • take it at 8:30pm for 1 week on followed by 1 week off.

royal jelly
http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=3127256

  • take it at 10:30pm everyday. Optional: take it in the morning after breakfast.

I would take Melatonin 300 mcg at 8:30pm for a 10:30pm bedtime. I pop the tablet and let it completely dissolve under my tongue then wash it down with some water 15 minutes later. I recommend that you only take lose dose melatonin b/c you’ll disrupt your body’s natural production at a higher dose of melatonin. The body only produces about 150 mcg, so you are taking twice that amount. I take Melatonin for 1 week then stop for another 1 week to prevent my body from getting use to it. I make it a point to not watch tv, read anything interesting, or anything that stimulates my emotions before bed. Also you want to make sure that you wake up at the same time everyday to get your body into a routine. I did this for about 20 days, then I noticed that I started to yawn at 9:00pm which i have not done in a long time. I don’t yawn regularly, but had several episodes where I did last month. I notice that my breathing would deepen with the anticipation of sleep which i was not doing before. Anyhow, buy some royal jelly too and i specifically recommend that you buy the same brand I was taking(listed above). I definitely noticed that it made me feel more rested and took away the unrested look from my face. I would take it right before I slept and you should only take 1 capsule b/c it is a bee product which can give u an allergic reaction. I took 2 capsules one night and I broke out with several spots of hives on my face, neck, and belly. I don’t see a problem with taking this everyday or twice a day (1 morning and 1 evening) and I have not read anything about tolerance build up with royal jelly. Don’t over do it with any of these supplements and just give your body/brain time to get use to sleeping again. When I started this routine, it took my body 2 months to get where i am today. In October 08, I would literally wake up 20 times tossing and turning. I will wake to turn around then quickly go back to sleep, and now, i have 3-6 episodes where I don’t really toss and turn, but just wake up for a split second then go right back to sleep. I dream all the time now and up to the very point when i wake up. Before I would just have several dreams and now I always remember that I more than 2 dreams. I don’t remember all my dreams but I know that I dream which is good enough for me. Maybe that is why i’m always getting nocturnal erections which is b/c i’m always in REM sleep.

hope this answers your question scaredmale30. oneday

Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Tonight’s program: take vitamin E, nolvadex, and maybe royal jelly.

Eleventh day on PCT, still having nocturnal and morning erections today. I tested my erection with mental stimulation by trying to fantasize about a cute female co-worker. I started thinking about her and blood started flowing to my face and lips. It use to be more intense prepropecia, remember when you are attracted to someone there is a build up of emotions and blood starts rushing to your mouth and penis. Well, those emotions started to increase to 50% of what it use to be and as i was physically stimulating the male region… the imagery started to fade and I could not hold it in my mind…this is another issue about post FIN and i cannot fantasize as i use to. There must be some internal brain chemical interaction that has not healed. I use to be able to create sexual imagery about anyone, about a friend’s mom :smiley:, about co-workers, crushes on schoolmates, or girls i was dating. Now, i can’t even hold a mental picture of them for more than 30 secs at a time and I had great imagination too. So this mental picture of my co-worker was fading as well as my erection b/c it was the imagery that served as lifesupport for my erection, but climaxed after 5-7mins. This time, semen quality was poor and it was simply watery with no substance to it.

Watching youporn.com, I am able to stay stimulated and erected for 10-15mins, and I don’t know why i can’t imagine as well as i use too. It is possible that I need to replenish the GABA in the brain as so many suggest. Who knows! If I still have imagery/libido issues after this PCT then I’ll reinvestigate the GHB thread and see how italysideffects from propeciahelp.com is doing with GHB. Around 5pm, i decided to give it another try with youporn.com and I stayed very stimulated with the streaming video of ppl wife swapping. It wasn’t streaming well and was cutting in and out, so it made it hard to stay captivated. I was able to stay aroused until climax. This semen quality was decent no water, just substance.

I took another shot of 150 hcg last night and thought my balls has shrunken slightly about 5% but testicular size has improved since day 3. I never really had taters for balls and started to worry about regressing. “Worrying” is what we’ve been doing on a daily basis lately and wondering if we will return back to normal. In my mind, I imagine that if they were the size of taters, even though i never had potato size balls, but it would be reassuring if they were monstrous balls. I had to calm the fuck down and think logically. I knew that i read some where that if your balls atrophy that it shrinks about 10-20% of what they were and realized that I did notice that I did have growth and it doubled in size, so maybe they are ok. From an objective perspective, my boys will not grow anymore b/c they are probably back to normal. To be safe, I won’t take any hcg tonight and will take 500 IU hcg for Wed and Sunday. You definitely get paranoid with this shit and worry if you’re on the right course. I just have to remind myself that it is not a sprint, but a marathon. (It is an expression that is used a lot with American baseball for perseverance and not expanding all your energy in one attempt but over the duration of the course, to reach the final result which is victory). I just have to pace myself and realized what I have gained thus far. I know that my erections have improved, hardness and strength of my erections are better, I can have multiple erections per day now, visual stimulation works, emotions are higher, and less hair is falling out, so with this in mind, I’m not going to panic. I have 45 days left, can you imagine these long fucking entries every day for 45 days. Shit, you’ll need a coup of coffee to stay awake while reading this PCT.

Now go off and stimulate yourself. oneday. :smiley:

Hey everyone,

I only have 18 days left of nolvadex and I need to find a good source. Can anyone recommend a good reputable site for nolvadex? I ordered some from alldaychemist.com and don’t know if they are legit? If i don’t find a good supply soon then i’ll probably regress and start at ground zero again.

please help. oneday

I didn’t notice in reading your posts: how long are you planning on being on the SERM?

hey quint,

It was on the first entry on the journal and i didn’t mention it since. I will be taking it for probably 8 weeks and will try to taper off the nolvadex in the last 2 weeks of the PCT. There have been a lot of entries throughout this PCT and every couple of days I should give a synopsis to avoid confusion. I always welcome advice to better myself and the journal. Thanks for checking this thread out. oneday.

ok, before ppl on this forum starts jumping and stomping on my BALLS about supplies (:smiley: hehe), i originally was going to do a different PCT program when i was considering PCTs and bought the exact amount needed for it.

1st PCT I considered
2-3 weeks of 250iu HCG every other day at night starting from day one
2 weeks of 50 mg Clomid everyday starting from day one.
4 weeks of 20 mg Nolvadex everyday starting week 2.

I discard that pct with clomid and went with a new one which was:

starting day 1:

  1. 20/20/20/20/20/20/10/5/2.5 gm of Nolvadex at 10pm (7-8 week program)
  2. 250 IU HCG every other day at 10pm for 2-3 weeks

Remember, there isn’t no definitive handbook of right and wrong protocols and everyone literally becomes a rocket scienitist to their own therapy. ppl, i wasn’t building a fucking house, and didn’t add an additional 20% for materials, just in case of fuck ups. haha :smiley:. Guess what, from now on, I will treat it as such and get additional supplies just in case, some new lab results demand a change/modification to PCT.

Once, i went onto the new PCT that I realized, “oh shit, I don’t have enough to get me through the program that I started.(to see how i looked, just picture Macaulay Culkin from home alone, when he finds out that his parents has left him home alone. )”:eek: Now, I’m just trying to get my ducks in a row (american expression: getting and organizing my supplies) to sustain my PCT program.

If anyone else thinks www.inhousepharmacy.com is good then let me know. oneday

Wednesday, January 7, 2009

Tonight: I will be taking 300iu hcg, 20 nolvadex, vitamin E

Twelveth day on PCT, I had few nocturnal erections and a decent morning erection (75%). To explain why I didn’t have many nocturnal erections is b/c I woke up at 3:33am with bad dream, also I thought about a girl i just met who isn’t calling me back. Started to worry that she is disinterested… i had to calm the fuck down: 1.) it is night time and i can’t let my mind go rampant b/c i still want to sleep 2.) if i start thinking about too much shit then i won’t be able to fall back to sleep. However, i was able to sleep after i peed. i wasn’t surprised that i didn’t have any erections after the bad dream b/c it is flight or fight response… for me, i never get excited in those situations

My dream was about a doctor who was doing research at a hospital and I was leaving the hospital, as was he. I was walking outside to the parking garage and I passed by the doctor on my way outside. For some strange reason I was carrying a stool (I don’t know why i was carrying a stool) as i was walking. A devious man walks by me and you could tell that he had malicious intentions. It was apparent that he was after the doctor, so did a 180 degrees to follow the devious individual. He whipped out a gun and demanded the doc’s research and the doc did not give it to him, then BANG, he shot him. Then he pointed the gun in my direction and then, i woke up. I started to think why didn’t i throw him the stool so he could protect himself, if i had thrown it to him then what would I protect myself with, then i said HALT IT!!! i need my sleep b/c i can’t play 20 questions with myself trying to figure out WHY… then random thoughts starts to creep into my head about why hasn’t the girl called me back that I just met on Christmas, that is when i decided to pee to clear my mind and went to sleep without any issues.

I don’t know why i’m typing this shit out and if ppl even care to read the inner workings of my mind. Anyways, i checked for an erection, there wasn’t any b/c it was a bad dream.

When i woke up this morning at 9am, I had an erection of 75% and wanted to see if it could be stimulated further. So I go youporn.com to watch a tutorial on doggy style (:smiley: haha). That definitely got things really going, I climaxed after 5-7 mins. I don’t know exactly b/c i wasn’t really timing myself. I think i can last longer if i stayed focused on doing time trials. Remember, this isn’t the Olympics, just a brotha checking out his mojo. Anyhow, for those who want to know my favorite position is day 04 on the karma sutra link (click link and play video How to do 28 kama sutra positions) If you don’t care, then don’t click. My ejaculate was watery again like yesterday and I don’t understand why it is. It seems to be a recent development where my morning ejaculate has been watery with no substance.

ahhh, you guys must think that i’m a spokesperson for youporn, no, just an avid user. Hey it is the only free shit around, so don’t knock it.

Doctor on Monday, gave me a slip for some blood test for Free and Total Testosterone, FSH and LH, I think i should get Estradiol tested b/c nolvadex increases this hormone, Do u guys think i should get my liver enzymes tested, or any additional blood tests?

your brutha from another mutha, oneday.

well actually, there’s also haporn.com >_>

lol, clearly this is the best story on this site, excluding the recoveries (which incidentally, your’s is hopefully among). Story also reminds me of a recent House ep (Last Resort). I dunno, figured I would counter with my own anecdotal jibberish. :stuck_out_tongue:

I for one appreciate your journal. It’s a good asset for us to see how these protocols go, and for you as well, to earmark your progress in detail. Looking forward to more of your recovery.

Yes. Also DHT, SHBG, Androstenedione and 3a-diol-G (Androstanediol glucuronide) if possible.

I posted this on meso-rx and felt that it is useful to understanding my original issues. I saw Big Softie recovery and pretty much took his recovery stack to help with libido issues, but it had an ancillary benefit. Here is my post:

hey the450man (from meso-rx.com),

here is my experience, I took propecia for 6 months and when i stopped, i had very bad side effects. I could not sleep due to really bad anxiety b/c my hormones were f’d up. I probably had high estradiol and low testosterone which is a perfect combination for really bad anxiety. I delt with the aniety thang for almost a yr, but everytime i tried to sleep, the anxiety would manifest itself and ruin my sleep. On my birthday, i said enough is enough, and searched for some answers. I came across someone doing this stack for libido and it was another symptom that i was trying to correct. I bought the following supplements and after 2-3 months, all my anxiety went away and an added benefit was that I had incredibly strong erections.

here are the supplements I took:

ZMK (zinc, magnesium, Krebs chelated)
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/millennium-sport-technologies/zmk-120-tabs.html

  • zinc is a natural aromatase which blocks the conversion of testosterone into estrogen
    and it could be a reason for better emotions and erections
  • if you take a higher dosage of zinc then you need to add copper to your diet to help
    with metabolizing w/ zinc.
  • you may experience vivid dreams while taking this which i’ve experienced

cons:

  • the cons are, cannot take it with calcium b/c it prevents zinc from absorbing into
    your body.
  • if you take the suggested the 4 tablet amount, then you will have difficulty searching
    for thoughts and you may get a studder in your speech. I recommend you only take 2 tabs
    on an empty stomach before bedtime.

MVP-365
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/millennium-sport-technologies/mvp-120-cap.html

  • this is suppose to be stacked with ZMK.
  • it contains almost all the vitamins and minerals you listed

Sustain Alpha
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/primordial-performance/sustain-alpha-7-5-oz.html

  • it contains natural extracts that promotes testosterone production
  • helps to increase testosterone which helps with emotions and erections
  • I don’t take the recommended dosage b/c it is gives me a rash
  • take half what they recommend and I alternate body parts that the lotion is
    rubbed on.

endo amp
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/primordial-performance/endoamp-48-g.html

  • i don’t know what this does but was taking it. Just wanted to note it b/c the stack
    I was on definitely clear all anixety i had.

By profession, i’m a programmer and doing a lot mental calculations brings about stress which i was accustom to. But stopping propecia, kicked my stress and anxiety level into the stratosphere and i was really fucked up. I was feeling paranoid, restless, and antsy all the time which compounded by the inability to sleep, it was a viscous cycle. If you can’t get good sleep then it will lead into stress, which feeds into restless sleep. you get the point. Anyhow, after 2 month most of the issues went away and by the 3rd month, i was cured from all anxiety issues.

So, I suggest that you try all the above b/c you are getting hands-on info from a person that overcame severe anxiety.

Just listen to what Dr Marianco said:
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/mens-health-forum/doctors-anyone-please-testosterone-134239779-2.html

[b]Collorary Two:

By this definition of the mind, inevitably one concludes that:

The mind IS the body.

The body IS the mind.

There is NO separation between mind and body.

The mind IS the body.[/b]

So the450man, if you correct your body, then you’ll correct the mind! It is that simple. There is something that is physiologically wrong that is causing the anxiety, so start with my suggestion to correct testosterone and sure you are going to get some much needed minerials from ZMK and MVP-365 with this stack.

stop taking all the other stuff you listed b/c it could be doing your body harm. Try the products that work for me and if you need to add to it, then do so. I’m currently not taking those products anymore b/c i’ve been anxiety-free for 5 months now. goodluck. oneday

Oneday, who is your doctor, did you say you are in Boston??

hey boston, i’m in the area all the time because of work. Man. the Celtics have been sucking balls lately and they need a quick mental break.

The doctor I sited above was from meso-rx and he is not my doctor. I’ve pulled a page from Tom Clancy’s book and I have been running some black ops type of shit that my doctor does not know about. He is unaware of my PCT that I’m on and you would not want him b/c he is just a general physician. Hope this answers your question. oneday.

hey 3pm,

that little quip about Dr. House was good, but with House, the Last Resort is usually the first thing he resorts to. oneday :smiley:

Thursday, January 8, 2009

Day 13!

Yesterday afternoon, I had a 1/4 of a cup of small ice coffee which gave me bad sleep. I decided that i wanted some coffee b/c i hadn’t drank coffee in almost 2 months. So I bought a cup from dunkin donuts just to see what it takes like again. After stopping propecia, i notice that coffee left me drained of my adrenals and could not get a decent sleep, ever, even if i drank a cup early in the morning. I took 500 iu of hcg in my inner right thigh, vitamin E, and nolvadex at 1am, then i went to bed. It probably took me an hour to sleep and I woke up at 8am with a slight erection (65%). So i decide to put my theory to work and see if I get the same outCUM. hehe. If you’ve been reading the journal lately, then you know that my semen has been watery every morning. Also, after i talked about time trials yesterday, that i wanted to see how long i can last. I worked up my erection to 85% and kept it going for 18 mins with erection quality fluctuating between 65-80%. After i climaxed, the semen quality was good and there was no water this time, just substance. I think that the longer I’m excited, that gives the body time to build up the necessary fluid for the finally. I’ll test out the theory tomorrow about erection during vs semen viscosity.

I don’t know whether it is poor sleep or what, but I felt devoid of energy and depressed. Currently, I have a lot of complexes right now and it has been too much to bear. I’m dealing with propecia sides, Hair, Halitosis, Youth complexes, and it affected me today. See I have the pocket size halitosis meter (http://www.engadget.com/2005/08/01/tanita-breath-alert) on me at all times to check my breath b/c i suffered from Halitosis for 12 years. I think this is the worst affliction that anyone can have other than being disfigured of course, b/c it removes all sociability that you have with anyone. I’m telling you, this fucks me up more than propecia. Having Halitosis, you don’t know if you have offensive breath and it is always on the back of your mind. Whenever you are in front of someone, you wonder is your breath strong and is the person keeping a straight face while talking to you. After 12 yrs of dealing with this, you’ll develop paranoia and lose yourself, just b/c you don’t want to speak and have someone cringe. I saw my doctor about this and he has bad breath too, he told me to keep the mouth moist with lozenges. Whoa, what an appifiny, tic tacs, gum, Listerine pacs, mouthwash never came to my mind. What a dumb fuck have i been. (I’m being sarcastic) Whatever, I have been on a journey trying to correct that issue for a very long time. With the halimeter, it tells you the following: no odor, slight order, mild, and strong odor, will either display 1,2,3,4 dots respectively on the meter. For the first 9 years I flossed and brushed my teeth for 2-3 mins, but my breath was always at a 3-4 dot range. I’m sorry guys, that is socially crippling and this will leave anyone with a complex. I’ve tried Profresh.com works great, but my breath would continue to get worse as the day went on. On Profresh my breath would flucuate between a 1-4 at given points in the day. I have been measuring my breath for 5 yrs now with this meter and i know a lot about breath measurements throughout the day. I made a lot of breakthroughs in 2008 b/c i figured out what was wrong with me. I was not brushing and scraping correctly, but the explanation gets very complex. First, your mouth is a huge structure, with teeth, tongue, throat, gums, side walls of the cheeks, top of pallet, and saliva, so not understanding these structures led to my bad breath. (Boo hoo, yea cry me a river by Justin Timberlake). I’m a fighter, so i don’t give up bitches… Plaque is your worst enemy even if you brush your teeth and floss, scape your tongue, brush the side walls of your cheeks, there is plaque that you cannot get too. I don’t care if you been brushing for 5 mins and your teeth is silky smooth, there is plaque somewhere. I conquered bad breath in stages:

  1. I was brushing and not rinsing correctly. Think of this analogy, you are going to mop the floor, then clean up the mud off the floor and you go into the next room to use the same bucket of dirty water. The point is that you moving around the bacteria from one area to the other. You may brush the bacteria from your teeth, but it bacteria infested brush water is flowing down onto your tongue and throat. So, my solution was to mix Listerine/water (50/50 ratio) and use it during brushing, flossing, scrapping, i would use the mixture to rinse and spit out.
  • Brush your gums, gumline, cheeks, pallate, tongue, teeth, then rinse with fresh mouthwash mixture.
  1. you should never floss prior to brushing your teeth b/c you’ll be bringing harmful bacteria from your teeth up into your gums. So brush first then floss and rinse with listerine/water combo.

  2. Buy a good tongue scrapper, get one from Profresh.com and another scaper from amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Tongue-Sweeper-Model-PRO-K/dp/B00023CD46)
    scrap the WHOLE tongue and back near the throat. Then rinse with listerine/water mixture.

  3. Use the stimudent from the front and back of the teeth. (http://www.amazon.com/Johnson-Stim-U-Dent-Plaque-Removers-Packs/dp/B000XP4I3C)

I didn’t mean for this to be a clinic on brushing but it cured me. There is great detail to this because there are complicated steps and techniques that i’m not going to explain in this journal, maybe for a new oneday journal on some bad breath forum. Why did i go into this tangent… So, i’m at the gym with my buddy working out, and I knew going into it that I had no malodor because the halimeter says 1 dot, but my friend brushes his nose several times, which makes me think that I have bad breath. Because of my complex, I felt depress this morning and afternoon even if my breath wasn’t bad. One time, i had my friend blow into the meter and it registered 2 dots meaning slight odor, but I couldn’t smell anything from the person’s breath, so my breath is currently between 1-2 dots… I’m so fucked up by this and that i don’t know if I can ever break out of this breath complex even if my breath is ok. (I"m like that guy named Brooks from the movie Shawshank Redemption, where he was so institutionalized that when he was released from prison after 50yrs or so, he just could not cope with the outside world) I feel that I have been dealing with this for so long that it is apart of me now. I have to rehab myself, so I can feel confident again and live a normal life in the outside world unlike Brooks. The funny thing is, I was popular in college even tho i had horrendous breath, now, I have (1-2 dot) breath but lack all sense of sociability. Well i’m gonna have to pull an Angela Bassett in the movie - How Stella Got Her Groove Back, and oneday will get his grove back…hahaha

Back to semen quality, I came back from the gym feeling depressed and decided that maybe a downloaded youporn video will bring up my spirits. I watched this video of some milf action and once I saw The Side Dish position day 25 on the link (http://www.tricklife.com/view.php?id=1102), that i just exploded. It only took 5 mins but if i hadn’t seen that provocative position then I could have gone longer. Erection quality was much better at 85% throughout the 5 mins, but semen quality was watery. Given my theory about semen viscosity, I think if i went longer then my semen would have been thicker.

I gonna buckle down and train myself to get better sleep. I want to get better from this and not have a propecia complex for the rest of my young life. I feel like I’m going through a midlife crisis at 29, when 29 should be the new 20. I’m too young for this shit,just got to meditate and stay fucking calm, ahummm, ahummm, … no,no, it is woosaaaahhh, woosaaaahhh, woosaaaahhh from Bad Boys 2. That’s better and i feel calm now.

By the way, my balls were very firm this morning and in good shape. I’ll be just taking vitamin E and Nolvadex tonight. wish me luck. oneday

Cool, sorry – I managed to miss to highlighted portion in the first post! Oops. best of luck with your protocol. I’ll keep checking in on it.

andysutils from meso-rx.com posted this question or comment…
you seemed to have many mental and physical issues before you took any fina. you sure its the propecia thats caused all of this?

my response:
It is just some self esteem issues that have come about from physical issues. As for the propecia side effects, it robs a man of his livelihood and to have a normal relationships with a woman. Just imagine that you lose all ability to have erections coupled with drug induced anxiety for 1.5 years, then will ppl not have emotional issues too??? There is a level of vanity in having great hair, great body, great intellect, or great in bed :smiley:, if any of the aforementioned was taken from us then we’ll definitely feel depressed.

I’m sure that a monk can live contently on a mountain-top with other bald headed man, so there is no need for being great in bed, have great hair, or a great body. But I’m no monk and i need at least my manhood to be happy. If you can live like a monk, then you are the wiser man and i bow to you. :slight_smile:

Friday, January, 9 2009

Day 14 on PCT and 42 days left… It is agonizing waiting for the results to appear. Sure there have been improvements, but it is taking forever. My balls are normal now and won’t grow anymore. I have more frequent nocturnal and morning erections everyday surpassing what i was getting pre-PCT. Emotions fluctuates from time to time, but I am really happy while on PCT. I hope that if I restore my hormones back that I’ll get thicker hair. It could be wishful thinking tho. I mentioned it in the past about the hair i had, but didn’t elaborate. (here’s the back story) Well, i remember how propecia became the drug of choice for me (It is like, when you ask ppl where were they when JFK was assassinated, or where were they on 9/11, when airplanes crashed into the Twin Towers) It all started with a CSI episode, where the agents are looking for the woman’s killer. All they had were some hair follicles and when they held an ultraviolet light to the hair, it fluoresced. so, an agent brings in a doctor (suspect) into a room and the agents goes into a 5 min soliloquy and ask a rhetorical question, does he know anything about male pattern baldness and shit like that, Agent says, well to get the maximum hair growth, you NEED MINOXIDIL AND PROPECIA. Then the officer explains that minoxidil can be washed away, but finasteride will become apart of the hair follicle, so it will fluoresce under ultraviolet light. Guess what, the agent was holding a ultraviolet light and waved over the suspects hair, thus discovering that the doctor was the killer. The suspect breaks down and confesses to the crime. I eventually thought to myself, “hmmm, maximum hair growth???” and i was currently trying rogaine (it never worked for me) then thought that Rogaine works from the outside in, but if I took Propecia, that it would work from the inside thus being more effective. I decided to take propecia b/c it was mentioned in that show, and if i had never watched that episode than i would have never taken FIN. FUCK THAT SHOW, I haven’t watched it since. hahaha. Like Big Softie, I took propecia and it made my hair worst, and I don’t have the typical male pattern baldness. None of my family members have male pattern baldness, just thinning hair at age 55 yrs, so i really fucked up. I took propecia, then a month later the hair on the side of my head was really thin and I thought that I needed to give my body time to adjust. What a dumb, dumb I was. I can’t look back on the past because I will be stuck there forever… I’m moving on and PCT better work. If it fails then I’ll go with the clomid, nolvadex, and hcg.

I slept really good last night and had a total of 4 awakenings, 3 toss and turns, and 1 where i woke up at 4:35am started thinking about a girl that i just met. By the way, she has been busy lately and she’s going to call me tomorrow. I thought about her for a minute and went back to sleep. I woke up at 8:30am with a decent erection 65% and played with the shaft a little to see if it would remain stiff. I was able to keep it going for 15 mins, then decided to take it for a joy ride. hehe. After 3 mins, joy ride was over just like the amusement park… you never get your money’s worth. The ejaculate was viscous, probably because there was 15 mins of foreplay which gave the body enough time to gather the fluids together, or it is b/c i saw a very hot chick getting her pussy wrecked and you could tell that she genuinely enjoyed it.

Starting next week, I’m going to workout 2 hours 3 times a week to see if I can get more gains in Testosterone. Tonight, I will be taking vitamin e, nolvadex, and 300 iu hcg. I’ve reconsidered that 500iu is too much for me right now and 300 iu hcg is the best way to go to prevent desensitization.

Hey 3pm, i checked out haporn.com and that is laced with commercials… sorry brotha, i’m sticking with youporn. oneday.

Saturday, January 10, 2009

Day 15th of PCT, today was like any other morning and that same goes for nocturnal erections. My penile skin is looking supple, that is right, I said, “SUUUU-PLE,” and it hasn’t looked this healthy in 2 yrs. With all things going the same, my personal life is moving on the up and up. I’d talked to the girl that I met and she seems very sweet. We chatted for a little bit and told me if i wasn’t busy tomorrow to give her a call. Definitely wish me luck.

I woke up really early for work and so there wasn’t time to take the equipment for a joy ride, no reach around, or the stranger (using the left hand)… haha you sucka… I didn’t check my ejaculate or my balls b/c there was no time this morning. So far so good and I’m progressing steadily. This stuff takes time and just gotta be patient. I’ve looked over several forum entries on various sites and know that people see the libido explosion when they start tapering off of nolvadex. I’m taking 20mg of nolva a night and roughly 30 days left on this regiment, then i’ll start tapering off. I’m really disappointed about the side effect of the puffy eyes and bought some girly products to reduce eye puffiness. Yea, you macho fellas will say what a puss, but I can’t be looking old when I go on a date.

Next week, I’m gonna get my blood tested to see if I have plenty of Testosterone in my system and cut out the HCG. I hope I have good news to tell you guys about my testosterone levels.

I still have to post my prior lab results and fill out my member story. I wanted to convey some information that van-man conveyed to me and post information about subcutaneous injections. Aight, i’m out. oneday.

Sunday, January 11, 2009

WOW, It is day 16 on pct and things have been going well.

I noticed that there was a change when i was sleeping. Last night, I woke up in a night sweat, either i was never in deep sleep long enough to develop a night sweat, or that the body has changed and i sweat more during the night. I believe that it is actually deep sleep and in the past, a bad dream would have cause me to wake up. Last night, I slept great and had a lot of dreams, tons and tons of dreams. Too many to explain.

Last night, I took melatonin 300mcg(micrograms) @ 8:30pm followed by vitamin E 1000IU and nolvadex 20mg @ 9:30pm. I had about 8.5 hours of sleep and i’m still sleepy which is a good thing. My problem after propecia was that i felt tired yet never drowsy, and now it got better last December (pre-PCT) and today it has reached a new pinnacle under PCT. It could be that either estrogen, or testosterone, or dht that has a function in sleep.

During my sleep, I was erected all night b/c I would have sporadic awakenings (5-10secs) probably 5 in total and I could sense that it was erected without touching it. I mentioned in the past that I was able to sense my erections, but this time it was stronger. However, I don’t want to mislead anyone and I have not gotten any rod-like erections of 95-100% and I’ll start shooting fireworks when that happens. I got rod-like erections when I was on Big Softie’s stack (Sustain-Alpha, ZMK, MVP-365, toco-8, Endo-Amp, Reset A.D), but once I had stop using the stack then things went down hill. Even tho, I had lost some gains, however it was a huge improvement over penis numbness, low libido, ED, and erectile sustainability. For those who want to try the stack, then you should go for it.

Like many other ppl, we went with the non invasive approach and sought out supplements to restore what we had lost, in hind sight, you have to fight fire with fire. Yea, this protocol is more extreme and risky than the supplement approach, but I think if you’re are on the right PCT then you’ll get long term results. Why is this PCT risky??? Well, you need to get syringes and buy the drugs off the internet that are required for the PCT. Then, there’s a question of quality b/c anything you buy off the internet is subjected to many assumptions. You have to assume that the drugs are manufactured to a high standard and the dosage that is listed is what you are getting. Well, most ppl are afraid that they are getting short changed when they receive 10mg and it is suppose to be 20mg, but what happens if it is the opposite and you are getting 500mg when it is suppose to be 20mg. So your job is to try and get your doctor to prescribe this stuff to you, or ask senior members in the forum who can vouch for the supplier.

The reason why I chose the username oneday is because I’m very hopeful and optimistic that one day I’ll be cured. After reading many recoveries threads, I zeroed in on the ones that failed, along with looking at the ones that originally failed but persevered and was able to recover after 2 yrs. These days, i just try to focus on the protocol that I’m on and plan B, just in case I do fail, but that is still far down the road.

Please continue to wish me luck and lets be hopefully together, oneday.

Yes dread. Yes man! I really pray for you bro! I really really do. You are a major major inspiration for us all, and a serious role model for many here. Thank you for toning it down a bit, it is easier to read this way.
You are very articulate, outgoing, kind individual. Don’t change. I wish you all the luck in this world bro. Keep going… ~B