MY RECOVERY AND A GREAT WAY FOR YOU TO RECOVER TOO

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#1

Hi Guys,

Hang in there!!! There is hope!!

I unfortunately took about 20 of those damn poison pills. It felt like my libido was fading a little but did not think much of it.

Thank God I stumbled upon this site and a few others and I threw those pills away immediately!!! I was lucky to catch it early. Thank God!

I started juicing veges more often and I am back to normal rather quickly.

I refuse to sit around the house being scared. Sitting around being scared is not good for us or our health or immune systems.

I told myself I am a tough son of a gun and a couple of measly pills will not mess with me.

Also I watch a lot of comedy shows and laugh and stay positive. (like Norman Cousins.)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cousins

I will also continue to eat enough live food so my body will fight off any bad stuff.

Please read “Living foods for Optimum Health” by Brian Clement

amazon.com/Living-Foods-Opti … 762&sr=8-1

He runs the Hippocrates health institute in Florida.

They have even cured people of cancers and daily help people heal their bodies and immune systems.

Also, I do not think there are many man made pills on earth that are good for us. I asked Hippocrates about Centrum vitamins (you know that they sell at the grocery and drug stores) one time and they said they were horrible for us.

They think synthetic vitamins are the causes of some diseases. At Hippocrates they recommend organic, fresh living produce, seeds and nuts to heal the body. Plus a good sense of humor and some other things he mentions in his book.

Kenny Loggins wife got cured from Breast Cancer at Hippocrates. Along with thousands of other success stories. Including people living successfully with Aids and other diseases on the Hippocrates diet.

There is hope!!! Think positive and refuse to ever give up!!!

God bless,
Mike

#2

Yay! You’re definitely one of the lucky ones, and I’m glad your body is doing well! Though I think the people here are suffering through something beyond what juicing can do, I do find your attitude encouraging! :slight_smile: In fact, I think I’ll get some produce and try it out for the heck of it!

#3

How quickly, exactly? Because anything less than 2 months (give or take a few weeks) is what’s supposed to happen. This forum is meant for those of us who didn’t turn out as expected, and who have been dealing with this for many months or even years. I don’t mean to downplay your fortune in avoiding these debilitating side effects - I’m glad you’re doing well - but there have been like 20 threads from people who “recovered” from finasteride after 2 or 3 months, when that’s not even exactly what we mean by the word.

Mew, I think there should be a new sticky thread in the recovery section, called something like “Have you recovered in under 3 months? Read this first.”

#4

Good for you. I’m glad your not like the rest of us here. Not to rain on your parade, but you most likely would have recovered anyway, like the majority of men do.

I’m not discounting the power of proper nutrition, as I myself preach the same thing. But the men here are suffering from a deeper type of problem. A problem that didn’t go away “rather quickly.” As a matter of fact there is someone on this site doing a 100% living foods diet for the past four months and he is still suffering. He is recovering, but very slowly. I believe he will get much better but he may need to stay on that diet for a year or so.

So, I can appreciate your enthusiasm, but I don’t believe this to be the same type of “recovery” that we are all looking to hear about.

#5

yes, i´m 4 months on living foods… 100 % with no exception. It works… but very slowly… there are some changes but i need at least another 4…
what works really good for me is a special yoga krya… that i got from a yoga Master designed on my situatuon.

it takes 35 minutes a day and after doing it… i feel much better. It holds on for some hours.

I´m sure that livingfoods,exercise yoga and meditation is a way to heal the disease… but it takes time…

i would say, i got about 20 % better the last 4 months… and i guess that after my body is healthy and clean enough, it will heal faster…

#6

Hi Guys,

Thanks for the replies in here.
After I posted I wondered how people would interpret my original message. :slight_smile:

This part of the forum is know as recovery right. That is why I put my story about my recovery.

I had low libido before but, I am back to about 90% now and getting better.

I am lucky to have healed up pretty quick and I talked about what worked for me.

Do I need to be messed up beyond repair and still helpless to post my recovery?

Anyways, living food and a positive attitude really made the difference in my recovery.

I read a story about Norman Cousins one time. His doctors gave him 6 months to live but he did not want to die.

He lived for many years longer than his doctors expected and stunned them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cousins

At the bottom of this link is his recovery and why.

There are people in this forum who are scared to death and hurting.

I guarantee you will not find a better solution to this problem than what Hippocrates lifestyle and diet recommends.

www.hippocratesinst.com

They have done blood work on thousands of patient over many years with various diseases and if you are one of the people out there who is scared like I was go on their site and read Brian Clement’s book.

Please Do not trust conventional medicine to heal you. Conventional medicine is what brought us Propecia in the first place.

There are still thousands of doctors prescribing Propecia to people everyday in the world.

If my posts can reach one person out there who has the courage to give it a shot and not give up than I have done my job to pass the word.
God bless.

#7

sure, its the cure… but over many months… up to one year… not in weeks

#8

You’re exaggerating our stance here. But yes, frankly, you would have to have been a little bit more “messed up” and “beyond repair” than you were to post a recovery that’s relevant to most of the people on this forum. Let me try to explain it once again. Depending on the study, up to 38% of men on finasteride experience sexual side effects - whatever the exact figure, it’s far from unheard of. Of those men who experience sexual (and other) side effects that continue after quitting, the significant majority of them recover completely after several weeks / 2-3 months. That’s what’s supposed to happen; that’s what the drug company claims; that’s what happened to you. In other words, you’re probably only “lucky” in the sense that you’re normal. What happened to you is what was supposed to happen to all of us. It didn’t, and so we’re now left, as you put it, “beyond repair.” That’s the problem.

Look, I don’t want to sound dismissive of the personal significance of your recovery. You probably feared the worst only to have your life back in a matter of weeks. That’s great - honestly. I hope you can enjoy your life and never have to look back on this episode again.

But then put yourself in our shoes. We’re the guys who didn’t turn out normal. Instead of getting back to our old selves “pretty quick” like everyone else, we’ve spent months or years with our quality of life significantly impaired. “Low libido” is the tip of the iceberg when it comes to stuff people on this site are facing; there’s also gyno, impotence, muscle wastage, major cognitive difficulties, sleep problems, depression, etc. And yes, we’ve tried many things to get over it, including things similar to what you’re recommending… raw food, fasting, juicing, etc. That’s all great. I plan on trying it out myself within a month or two, and other members here have said it’s been a major help. But I don’t know anyone who claims that they’ve gotten back to 90% after a few weeks down this path - if only it were that easy.

What it comes down to is, people read this recovery section for hope and inspiration. They want to hear about guys who went through similar things and ultimately emerged with their health back. It’s interesting to us when someone claims significant improvements 3.5 years in after starting juicing. It’s important to us when an old member comes back 3-4 years later and says that his problems are now more or less gone… when another chimes in that 3 years of persistence have left him feeling more than 90% normal. You had a fundamentally different experience from that (i.e. a normal one) - what is your story supposed to tell us? Ok, the advice on natural treatments is legitimate - thank you - but it belongs in another section. Your story about recovering after a couple of weeks? It’s just another reminder of what should have happened to us.

#9

Ok thanks again for explaining that.
You sound like a nice guy and I appreciate your reply.

I have given great advice to the people on here.

If they want to go on www.hippocratesinst.com and learn about how to heal themselves they know where to go.

I am well aware of people who have a lot more problems then sex.

Anyone who has spent some time on this site is aware of that.

The stories on here are downright depressing and sad. I sympathize with every one of these people.

That is why I spoke up and put my original post up in the first place.

To offer a solution to the people in need.

There are some people who get messed up within a week of using Propecia. I used it for 3 weeks and stopped immediately when I learned of this site. I did experience side effects.

I would not have recovered like I did without implementing what I learned from Hippocrates. And it took longer than a few weeks for my recovery.

#10

Hey The Answer, the fact you keep posting links to that website over and over to promote it as a way for “recovery”, when you are not even suffering the same fate as many here, is starting to come off as a spam marketing tactic to me at least…

I don’t want to accuse you of anything or downplay the significance of your situation, but try and look at it from my perspective – for all I know you could be an employee or schill for the Hippocrates Institute to promote business for their organization via this website, which is not cool.

We know the website link, you’ve posted it multiple times throughout your story, so there is no need to keep posting it or reiterating the same things over and over. If you do I will be forced to make a judgement call here, because right now everythign you’ve posted is based around promoting the Hippcrates website.

Glad you’ve recovered in a short time, hope you can see things from my perspective, and good luck with the future.

#11

Hello,

Thanks for the reply.

I am not an employee of Hippocrates. I live in Arizona. They are located in Florida.

I do not make a dime off of them in any way. I am a Realtor in Az.

I wont post the link again.

Thanks

#12

this is sweet. my first post is 3.5 and something changed. I talked about how juicing got me feeling good again. Then The Answer has success with it too. Juicing raw veggies will help your body. It might not cure you, but it will cleanse and make you feel better. Sweet and beyond coincedence that this guy and me posted these so close.

#13

I just got back from doing a 12 day detox retreat at a health center in upstate NY. The place is very similar to the Hipacrates health center in Florida.

The diet was very strict. Breakfast was either green drink (juiced green vegtables), a buckwheat shake, or watermelon (or watermelon juice). We only had watermelon about 5 days.

Lunch was always salad (dark greens, carrots, onion, beets) with dressing made from purred vegtables. And ‘energy soup’ (parsley, basil, celery, carrots, avacado, and onion). Some pretty disgusting stuff.

Dinner was the same as lunch. Occasionaly there would be a specailty like ‘coleslaw’ made from beets or ‘gucamole’ on a cracker made from dehydrated energy soup.

During the day, we had 6 ounces of wheatgrass which helps a lot with detox. There were classes on yoga, meditaiton, eating, the mind, etc. Also had a colonic or did an enema everyday. Fun!

I also met with an alternative medicine doctor there. Out time was short and there was a lot to talk about. He believed that the Propecia caused this and said hes seen many people who are permanetly damaged from taking antibiotics. He said that there was something else that was going on before. He is treating me by healing my gut (said I had some bacteria in it) and by healing my adrenals. His main thing is that when the body functions at optimal health, it is most likely to heal itself.

I am now on a diet free from gluten, dairy and sugar (which means limited fruits). I am taking about 15 different supplements a day (most to hear my gut and adrenals).

After the 12 days, I do feel better. I am sleeping better, no more headaches, less brain fog. Unfortuenetly sexual functon is still about the same.

I will keep you updated on my progress.

#14

This sounds like an Anne Wigmore program. Is it?

Also, sexual function will take a few months on a very strict diet to start seeing a difference. It is one of the last things to switch on. Once you start sleeping better and being able to relax more, which you will on that diet, things will start to perk up and you will actually feel horny for the first time in a long time.

Just watch those food cravings. They can be killer once you really get into it. Glad your noticing results

#15

Yes it is. The owners of the retreat lived with her.

I’ll see how things go. Being in college is not going to make this very easy. Also, after going for 12 days on a very extreme diet with only minor improvements, I’m skeptical that this is going to help much. But I’m going to give it a try before I just give up…

#16

Listen, just so you know what you’re getting yourself into. It is going to take many months, not weeks for you to see any improvement whatsoever. That is the number one reason why people fail at the diet. They are too impatient for the results, and eating that way for an extended period of time can make you feel somewhat deprived. The thing is it will ALWAYS work if given the chance. That chance being 6-12 months.

I couldn’t imagine having to do it in college either. I laugh when I think about what I lived on in college…

#17

Yeah he said so, so it must be true.

Obviously everyone has bacteria in the GI tract. Whether a significant infection or issue therein with excessive bacteria contributes to our problem is one thing, but this does not at all explain why men such as us are damaged in this way. And further, ANYONE who wants to say it does had better have evidence.

Glad you enjoyed and benefited from that huge diet change. IMO an altered metabolic rate and endocrine function is definitely not helped by eating uncleanly - meaning breads, cereals, meats and basically all of the normal major meals healthy people eat are going to set us back. I certainly don’t doubt a long-term diet of clean and unmanipulated foods can regenerate damaged biology, but doing these things is not the answer. Because we don’t know what is the answer, it’s obviously better than nothing.

Good luck and be patient with it.

#18

This statement in itself is contradictory. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I have made great strides by sticking to a VERY restrictive diet that I would not have made otherwise. The results clearly speak for themselves. So, I disagree that it isn’t the right thing to do based on my results alone.

I have been speaking with someone else on this site who has been on a raw food diet for the past four months and he was almost going to post in the recovery section the other day. I suggested that maybe he wait a couple more months to be really recovered before posting. But again, the results are all that matter. How you get there is irrelevant. But this is working for people that can stick to it. It makes perfect sense that it does work as well.

Supplementing with T boosters and E lowering supps while on this diet is extremely beneficial as well because your body is in such a receptive state. When it’s clean it really responds strongly to the herbs in a positive way. Something else you should check out if you can. I actually have days now where I’m full of confidence and cockiness and I can feel the T going through me. It’s a very good feeling indeed.

#19

It sure would be, if that were the full statement. :unamused:

#20

everything that helps is the answer