Mercks Killerdrugs

[Finasteride_victim]

Vioxx: 88.000-139.000 Persons suffered Heartattacks, 40% from them are dead.
The largest multidistrict litigation in history

Fosamax:More than 1000 Women have rotten their Jaws.

Januvia:Over 200 People suffered chronic pancreatitis.Some of them are dead now.

Nuva Ring:Over 1000 Women are suffering from blood clots and heart problems

Gardasil: Destroys the Lifes and the female Reproduction of the Bodys from over 200 Women.

Singulair:It is maybe a Connection between Singulair and Suicides.Victims unkown.

Propecia: Thousands Men around the World suffer from Post Finasteride Syndrom a Disease who leads men to commit Suicide and many devasting, lifedestroying Sideffects.

MERCK-BE WELL A PROMISE MADE TO THE WORLD

[PR123]

And here’s something to add to the mix.

The Wall Street Journal this week reports that a “Kentucky state judge has permitted a Brown University professor to seek disclosure of countless Vioxx documents that were marked as confidential during years of litigation over the controversial painkiller.”

Those documents, says David Egilman, “provide new information on the health hazards of the drug and evidence of fraud in the conduct of the studies. I’ve been able to see documents few others have.”

The full story, headlined “More Disclosure Coming in Merck’s Decade-Long Vioxx Nightmare,” here:

blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intellig … nightmare/

[Finasteride_victim]

Thats Merck Doctors for me

[Oscar]

@Finasteride victim

Propecia: Thousands Men around the World suffer from Post Finasteride Syndrom a Disease who leads men to commit Suicide and many devasting, lifedestroying Sideffects.

Up until 2012 only 59 men had ever reported persistent side effects from Propecia to the FDA. Up until 2008 only 4 men in the UK had reported this to the MHRA.

Although lots of people say “thousands are effected” there is no evidence for this at all.

[Hopingforthebest]

@PR123

And here’s something to add to the mix.

The Wall Street Journal this week reports that a “Kentucky state judge has permitted a Brown University professor to seek disclosure of countless Vioxx documents that were marked as confidential during years of litigation over the controversial painkiller.”

Those documents, says David Egilman, “provide new information on the health hazards of the drug and evidence of fraud in the conduct of the studies. I’ve been able to see documents few others have.”

The full story, headlined “More Disclosure Coming in Merck’s Decade-Long Vioxx Nightmare,” here:

blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intellig … nightmare/

The title of the article makes out Merck are the victim not the 55000 thousand people they may have killed.

[Luckfax]

@Oscar

@Finasteride victim

Propecia: Thousands Men around the World suffer from Post Finasteride Syndrom a Disease who leads men to commit Suicide and many devasting, lifedestroying Sideffects.

Up until 2012 only 59 men had ever reported persistent side effects from Propecia to the FDA. Up until 2008 only 4 men in the UK had reported this to the MHRA.

Although lots of people say “thousands are effected” there is no evidence for this at all.

I personally have communicated with dozens of UK sufferers, REAL sufferers with lasting physical and mental damage. No one is told by anyone else to contact the FDA or MHRA, the former is proven to be corrupt the latter is funded by big pharma (!) anyway so hardly reliable.

I think you feel so worthless from having PFS that your only ‘pleasure’ is coming on here and denigrating the efforts and objectives of others trying to solve it.

Posting nothing but feeble put downs doesn’t make you a wise guy. It makes you a dickhead.

[PR123]

Well, Oscar, if you must ask…

What does reporting to the FDA entail? It entails filling our a form. And in SOME instance, patients include in their medical records.

But that’s not required. That’s voluntary.

However…

When one files a lawsuit – a lawsuit that winds up on the record, in the works here in the US – one MUST provide medical records.

If not, the defendant side – or even the judge – can dismiss the allegations/suit.

You following me? You see that, in many ways, an active finasteride lawsuit is in many ways MORE valid proof of real PFS – because it’s hard to fake a medical history. (And believe me: both sides – the plaintiff’s attorneys and Merck’s own counsel – take great pains to ensure medical records are valid.)

OK, now…

So here, according to Merck’s very own SEC filings (aka 10-Q), are the latest year-over-year stats for finasteride suits here in the US alone:

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For the quarterly period ended Nov. 7, 2012:
-265 lawsuits
-415 plaintiffs

For the quarterly period ended Nov. 7, 2013:
-1,130 lawsuits
-1,380 plaintiffs

—2013 year-over-year increase in number of lawsuits: 865 (+294%)
—2013 year-over-year increase in number of plaintiffs: 965 (+215 %)

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And very soon, Merck’s even more recent 10-Q will be public. So, conservatively speaking, we’d all agree that there are at least 1,200 plaintiffs in the US alone, right?

Now, add in Canada and the UK and right there you have 2,000 plaintiffs. And if we were to count the entire planet, we’re probably talking about a total of 10,000 to 25,000+ plaintiffs – or at least damaged parties who would sue if they could.

Hope that gives you some assurance that PFS is in fact a textbook epidemic.

[Finasteride_victim]

If PFS will be proven and the Damage Merck has done AGAIN to the World, what will happen with Merck??

I tell you all, Merck will say:" Oh we didnt know that "

Then they will pay a few Thousand Dollars to each PFS Patient, and the next Day Ken Frazier will be
on a Intervie and he will say again:" We want to be the must trusted Company in the World bla bla bla bla"

Then thy make a new Killerdrug then the Same Storie many Sick People…Court, Lawsuits, OOOPPPPSSSSS from Merck, bla bla bla from Ken Frazier and Again and Again an Again the same Story until over the half World is sick or dead from Merck Products!!!

[Second_Amendment]

@Luckfax

@Oscar

@Finasteride victim

Propecia: Thousands Men around the World suffer from Post Finasteride Syndrom a Disease who leads men to commit Suicide and many devasting, lifedestroying Sideffects.

Up until 2012 only 59 men had ever reported persistent side effects from Propecia to the FDA. Up until 2008 only 4 men in the UK had reported this to the MHRA.

Although lots of people say “thousands are effected” there is no evidence for this at all.

I personally have communicated with dozens of UK sufferers, REAL sufferers with lasting physical and mental damage. No one is told by anyone else to contact the FDA or MHRA, the former is proven to be corrupt the latter is funded by big pharma (!) anyway so hardly reliable.

I think you feel so worthless from having PFS that your only ‘pleasure’ is coming on here and denigrating the efforts and objectives of others trying to solve it.

Posting nothing but feeble put downs doesn’t make you a wise guy. It makes you a dickhead.

He’s already had this explained to him why he’s wrong. But you’re right. He’s a beta male looking for attention.

[Oscar]

@PR123

Well, Oscar, if you must ask…

I’m not sure I was asking. But let me just deal with some of the points you raised about the lawsuit. Because if you only look at reported side effects, or ask the doctors that prescribe the drug for years, or look at the people taking part in studies, the numbers effected is microscopic.

@PR123

That’s voluntary.

Yes, reporting to the FDA is voluntary. And there’s no money for doing so. But unfortunately national lawsuits like this do attract all sorts of wierdos (ask the lawyers involved) Plus this problem does attract neurotic-hypochondriac cases. So I think the numbers taking part are inflated, especially when weighted against other evidence like FDA reports.

@PR123

You following me? You see that, in many ways, an active finasteride lawsuit is in many ways MORE valid proof of real PFS – because it’s hard to fake a medical history.

If this was proof, then the lawsuits would already be over. Anyway, nobody can prove they have PFS. Also, there has hardly been enough days gone by for both sides to check these things (its not unusual in these cases for 50% of plaintiffs to drop out).

@PR123

And very soon, Merck’s even more recent 10-Q will be public. So, conservatively speaking, we’d all agree that there are at least 1,200 plaintiffs in the US alone, right?

Right, the numbers of plaintiffs has stopped increasing and has now started decreasing. Maybe 1,380 plaintiffs is the high tide mark.

@PR123

Now, add in Canada and the UK and right there you have 2,000 plaintiffs.

Number of plaintiffs in the UK = 0 (only about 30 men ever showed any interest). Number in Canada = ~80 last time I checked.

@PR123

Hope that gives you some assurance that PFS is in fact a textbook epidemic.

No. I said there was no evidence of ‘thousands’ and there still isn’t. In fact all evidence points to an extremely rare side effect.

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@Second Amendment

He’s already had this explained to him why he’s wrong. But you’re right. He’s a beta male looking for attention.

‘beta’ male?? Are you kidding me??? Also, I am surprised you linked back to that thread since I schooled you pretty hard on how to check your references/ use objective reasoning. Clearly you don’t even realise or simply cannot read.

[Finasteride_victim]

@Oscar

@PR123

Well, Oscar, if you must ask…

I’m not sure I was asking. But let me just deal with some of the points you raised about the lawsuit. Because if you only look at reported side effects, or ask the doctors that prescribe the drug for years, or look at the people taking part in studies, the numbers effected is microscopic.

@PR123

That’s voluntary.

Yes, reporting to the FDA is voluntary. And there’s no money for doing so. But unfortunately national lawsuits like this do attract all sorts of wierdos (ask the lawyers involved) Plus this problem does attract neurotic-hypochondriac cases. So I think the numbers taking part are inflated, especially when weighted against other evidence like FDA reports.

@PR123

You following me? You see that, in many ways, an active finasteride lawsuit is in many ways MORE valid proof of real PFS – because it’s hard to fake a medical history.

If this was proof, then the lawsuits would already be over. Anyway, nobody can prove they have PFS. Also, there has hardly been enough days gone by for both sides to check these things (its not unusual in these cases for 50% of plaintiffs to drop out).

@PR123

And very soon, Merck’s even more recent 10-Q will be public. So, conservatively speaking, we’d all agree that there are at least 1,200 plaintiffs in the US alone, right?

Right, the numbers of plaintiffs has stopped increasing and has now started decreasing. Maybe 1,380 plaintiffs is the high tide mark.

@PR123

Now, add in Canada and the UK and right there you have 2,000 plaintiffs.

Number of plaintiffs in the UK = 0 (only about 30 men ever showed any interest). Number in Canada = ~80 last time I checked.

@PR123

Hope that gives you some assurance that PFS is in fact a textbook epidemic.

No. I said there was no evidence of ‘thousands’ and there still isn’t. In fact all evidence points to an extremely rare side effect.

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@Second Amendment

He’s already had this explained to him why he’s wrong. But you’re right. He’s a beta male looking for attention.

‘beta’ male?? Are you kidding me??? Also, I am surprised you linked back to that thread since I schooled you pretty hard on how to check your references/ use objective reasoning. Clearly you don’t even realise or simply cannot read.

Thank you man.

Im sure even Ken Frazier cant have say this better.

With People like you on our Side, we will be sick for the Rest of our Live.

[Hopingforthebest]

Oscar wrote “No. I said there was no evidence of ‘thousands’ and there still isn’t. In fact all evidence points to an extremely rare side effect.”

If PFS is extremely rare, is it likely Merck’s 2% quote of those who suffer side-effects correct? If so what hope do we have of getting Merck to help us, or at least the wider world to take notice of us?

[Mark2012]

@Oscar

No. I said there was no evidence of ‘thousands’ and there still isn’t. In fact all evidence points to an extremely rare side effect.

What about the 3000 plus members on this site, is that not enongh evidence for you ? Do you think people are here for fun ?

[THETIGERSHULL]

PFS IS NOT RARE

Far more common than Merck would have you believe with they’re 2% Bull Shit !!!

[Mark2012]

@THETIGERSHULL

PFS IS NOT RARE

Far more common than Merck would have you believe with they’re 2% Bull Shit !!!

Also a lot of people will never realise that the non sexual sides are caused by the drug.

I had bad very bad mental and physical sides while on the drug but I thought I was ok because I didnt get the sexual sides while on it.

[Second_Amendment]

@Oscar

‘beta’ male?? Are you kidding me???

Beta male trolling for attention is the best way to describe you. Nearly 800 posts and not one contribution here, just provoking awor and others spearheading research into the disease that you claim makes you unable to fall in love with a woman. The Phantom DHT theory went ignored (on this forum and Crisler’s) while everyone jumped on the fungus/pathogen threads. You admit you’re too scared to speak with (or even email!) the media. You even called yourself a coward on another forum. And you lied about never registering on another forum. A lot of people know you got banned from Crisler’s forum.

@Oscar

SA, I have never used an internet forum before this one.

allthingsmale.com/forum/show … post139618

[Hopingforthebest]

@Mark2012

@Oscar

No. I said there was no evidence of ‘thousands’ and there still isn’t. In fact all evidence points to an extremely rare side effect.

What about the 3000 plus members on this site, is that not enongh evidence for you ? Do you think people are here for fun ?

As a percentage of the total users of finsteride 3000 could be quite small. I think more people need to report their sides. I plan to do so when I visit the doctor.

[Hopingforthebest]

@THETIGERSHULL

PFS IS NOT RARE

Far more common than Merck would have you believe with they’re 2% Bull Shit !!!

Sorry, but on what evidence have you based this statement? Do you know how many men have used Propecia and then went on to get PFS?

[towm8er]

Oscar,

Why are you on this site and what is the purpose of your 775 posts spreading doubt or disbelief about PFS or attempting to discredit science, doctors, articles, posters?

I’m not convinced you have PFS, in fact, I believe you are getting paid by Merck to post on this site after I read a few pages of your posts.

How about you explain yourself? Who are you, why are you here?

Is there ANYTHING or ANYONE that you agree with regarding PFS?

I think your response should be used as a deciding factor of whether you should be authorized on propeciahelp.com. You apparently are NOT helping, and by all appearances it seems you are more interested in fighting against the primary effort for this forum.

[PR123]

Well said, towm8er.

If you haven’t seen Billy Wilder’s “Stalag 17”…

imdb.com/title/tt0046359/

…see it because the Peter Graves character will remind you of Oscar.

The rat has been outed.