Mens Rea's Battle against PFS.

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#221

I am confused. Are you saying dexamethasone is improving your symptoms or worsening them? increased prostate pain leads me to assume worsening but then you mention improved semen viscosity.

I certainly don’t think there is any point in taking dexamethasone indefinitely. If you really want to try it for longer than two weeks why don’t you just come off it now, assess your symptoms and then go back on it to see whether you have the same experience. This would be a good thing to do if you are trying to figure out whether the dexamethasone is indeed causing your altered symptoms.

When are you taking it mate? i took it before bed in the evening but i am going to take it in the mornings over the next 4 days and that will be the last time i give it a shot.

#222

Worse originally but I’m rebounding. My body is seeminly adjuisting to it so I’m considering whether another week could give me even more improvements.

Dexa will weaken the immune system and is used for autoimmune conditions. I can’t ruke out the possibility that dexa coukd help reset some immune or autoimmune problem which is why I’m trying ti decide upon the optimum duration of treatment.

#223

Well, there was the guy on steroidology that used it for 5 days, ihatepropecia702 a few days and cytochrome who used it for a few weeks i think.

#224

Hi Men Rea,

You must have written this but did you do an antibiotic course?

i also believe it is inflammation and immunity which is at stake.
If you have still the cause of the inflammation (bacterias?) lowering your immunity may worsen thing.

I am thinking of those pregnant women who are more prone to develop gum inflammation.
They can avoid void it by being extra cautious with hygiene to prevent a disproportionate response of the immune system as we may
have in our genitals.

#225

Yes i took a short spell of doxy and a 2/3 week spell of bactrim DS. Not real benefits. Oh, i had 2 weeks of cipro from my doctor a year back, too. I’ve also tried strong probiotics and digestic enzymes for 5-6 weeks without any even marginal effects.

Anyway, today is the first day off the dexa.

I’m now taking:

Zinc 50mg ED
Vitamin E
Vitamin D3
Biotin

All of which should help my immune system and are just good natural supplements for general health. I’m prepared to take the long haul on this one. For once im focused - i’ll continue these indefinately atleast until around the Christmas mark, i’ll live a good lifestyle and remain sexually active. I’ll cycle cialis and a little levitra.

Won’t have too many updates for a while now because now im on the slow path but i will report back here and there.

#226

FWIW.

I remember thinking of taking a biotin supp… Too many search results showing it’s a dht blocker scared me off. Whether it’s true or not I’m not sure.

#227

Aw i duno man

My DHT is, if anything, too high, anyway. I doubt biotin or any other weak 5ARII inhibitor outside of accutane, SP and fin, would be of any real risk to me. Although i do avoid nettle root.

#228

Yeah… Who knows if it’s bs or even makes a diff… Just thought I’d tell ya.

I’m paranoid about every supp I take and google the shit out of it.

#229

You’re just right. I don’t really approve of many supps myself - but the list ive made i feel i cant go far wrong with. Vitamin D3 being the most important IMO, but zinc is also an excellent supplement for any male.

#230

did zinc inhibits 5ar? i read it somewhre…

however i’m taking every supp but i don’t go far

we need some really effective

in 3 days we know … hopefully

#231

Zinc is a mild anti-aromatase and seems to be one of the more effective supps for us.

Vit d3 is also positive to many men on here. Both are natural 5ar inhibitors, not sure what this tells us.

#232

zinc, biotin, nettle root…

Don’t want to derail this thread, but just wanted to say that my experience with all of them is that they do not decrease DHT. I regularly monitor my hormones and the only thing I saw was a slight increase (yes, increase) in DHT by being on both nettle root and biotin.

If on one hand I understand being scared of taking a heavy 5ARI inhibitor, I think that you should not be scared of these mild ones because 1) I personally doubt that they are really 5ARI and 2) they did not cause any persistent problem to anyone–ever.

#233

also saw palmetto is a mild one but i heard very bad of it

honestly i don’t know really what to take or not

maybe improvements and worsenings r not direct effects of integrators, maybe are only attempts to our bodies to react

imao since now, only time and our body will helpin someway

#234

Look, it’s pretty simple. When you want to investigate a supplement, do NOT google “name-of-the-supplement 5 alpha inhibitor”, because you may find false information. Rather google “name-of-the-supplement persistent side effects”. If the search doesn’t find anything, then it should be safe, no? If the search retrieves horrible experiences of people that got fucked by that supplement (eg saw palmetto), then it’s not safe.

#235

Thought id do a quick update.

Been feeling decent the past while. I’ve kind of learned to deal with my lowered libido and i know i can perform decently and still enjoy myself when the time comes so i guess i just kind of get on with it and not let it affect my daily life too much.

Current regime remains as:

Vitamin B6
Vitamin E
Biotin
Zinc every day or two. (Don’t think i particularly need it with my high T, already)

I stopped D3 due to the Marshall Protocol concerns about it. No biggie either way, my past levels have been fine.

Overall, I think this is helping. I’m also not drinking much and in intend to continue this dramatic change. A main thing is i think my shrinkage has abated a little. At my worst my penis looked really narrow and small, right now it looks ok (not pre-fin). My semen isn’t too bad - again, not pre-fin but my loads are reasonable and no doubt what a urologist would call “normal”.

Between the above lifestyle, a continued increase in exercise, more sleep etc over the next while (year +) im confident ill slowly make little improvements. I really believe my condition has “bottomed out” which is a success in itself given my condition was going just one way (south) for quite a long time since cessation in March 2010.

Will keep you guys updated. Not sure if dexa helped or not but it certainly didn’t do any harm.

I’ve now got the test to do the saliva cortisol test 4x. I’ll do it soon. I’m also due another set of bloods - i’ll see to this soon too. I might delve with clomid and/or aromasin again subject to those - i think now my base condition seems to have improved i might be in a better position to enjoy benefits from said treatments. We’ll see though.

#236

Just picked up a 20mg cialis prescription from my GP.

Not ideal me needing this stuff but some studies have shown that usage of PDE inhibitors can actually aid a natural improvement in the blood flow to the penis. Who knows.

It’s good to have this stuff for when i fell the need.

#237

I’d think it couldn’t hurt. Cialis helped me for about a week then nothing even with dosages as high as 25 mg. But I have pain, alot of shrikage and tissue changes.

#238

I have pain every now and again, shrinkage and definate tissue change. I still benefit from cialis but i have to cycle it.

#239

I’ve really opened my mind lately.

JN talks about copper and zinc. I’ve just bought copper and im going to see if that helps. I’ve got zinc too but perhaps my copper is low.

In light of Enden’s thread ive decided to go back on TD Prog for a more sustained period of time, say, a few months. Worth a shot.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5748

And lastly, i’ve joined recover.forumup.org/ which is about Sexual Exhaustion. Alot of guys on that forum resemble similar sides to us. I’m not saying we’re all the same but there may be vital clues for us.

I read that one of the the sides is eye floaters, something that ive developed along with PFS (coincidence)…read this:

The guys on that forum recommend abstainance and healthy living and then reverting to a healthy sexual life that wouldn’t trigger “SE” again. I feel like i always need to insert a disclaimer in every comment like this before someone jumps all over it and says “Ohhh PFS is different”. Yes i know that but every little helps.

Will keep you guys updated im expecting some decent progress over the next six months.

#240

JN is treating with copper based on test results. For all you know you could have HIGH copper and be supplementing with more copper. You need some form of test really.