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Feeling better, hair looks better as nizoral and some lotions seem to help with the SD. Got an appointment at the university hospital to check what the is still a bit wrong with my vision. Dick still looks narrow and grey which is a bit worrying. Face looks much better and healthier now as my hormones seem to be doing better and am not constantly redfaced anymore. I’m guessing the SD contrubuted to the redness partially as I have been putting Nizoral lotion (yes, they sell that) on my burning cheeks. Still taking antibiotics and cabergoline.
Filled in the paperwork for gynosurgery an am anxiously waiting for that as I have been uncomfortable even taking my blazer off since that happened.

Will get a new gym membership tomorrow and try to get my old body back. Will see one more uro for the dick thing and demand answers, if that fails I’ll give up and just wait for things to fix themselves. That’s all.

Dude, talk about scars! You seem to have not heard me before when I say that maybe you shouldn’t jump on the surgery thing so soon. Some meds can also reduce, or even eliminate gyno.
Get a good surgeon if u end up doing it sooner or later. And make sure you talk about scars!!
Then you’ll regret doing it. I promise you. :unamused:

X2 Dont have surgery if you have minor gyno or puffed, you will regret it. Dr John says he is developping a surgery free gyno treatment that works.
Unless you have like an c cup i would def wait it out bro, not worth it.

Cheers

Well it’s a real handful and the scar should be 1cm under the nipple and be almost invisible. I have other scars too so it’s just an addition to my collection. I just want the fuc*ers gone.
Cabergoline is not helping and doctors here don’t prescribe tamoxifen so I see no options. Thanks for your input though.

Face is looking better, went to the tanning booth today and for the first time for a long long time I’m not completely redfaced.
Actually felt fine today if you don’t count the mild vision problems and eyepain. Maybe I’ll get over this.

Dr. Crisler will work with your GP virtually (over the phone) if your GP, or any of your local doctors is cool.
Scars are never invisible.

Our doctors are not cool, this is not America i.e. even if God phone consulted a doctor, clomid is used solely for fertility issues and tamoxifen for breast cancer end of story.

My scalp is still red, stinging, itching and sweating like crazy which is extremely weird. Bought more cortison, T-Gel and nizoral to try and fight that. Will make a new appointment with a derm to get that under control. My hair look ten time worse than it did before taking fin.

As a reminder for newbies researching fin, I TOOK ONLY FOUR MONTHS OF FIN TO GET ME INTO THIS MESS.

Got back from the urologist’s office. He diagnosed my with an early stage of peyronie’s AND prostatis. I’m not too happy at the moment.

Prescribed viagra 100mg, pain killers and an alpha-something(will look at my papers for the exact name) for prostate issues. Also recommended vitamin E for peyronie’s. Told me to see him again after six months.

Thank you finasteride. How the fck am I going to get back to normal from this? I had the future by the balls, good looks, a good job, nice GF, a killer education etc and now THIS. Fuck me.

I’m having the gyno surgery in a week. After that I’ll try to avoid thinking about this mess and this site and just try to get on with my life. You can PM if you have something to ask or suggest as I get those by email.

The only good thing is that my medical bills have been HUGE due to this mess (about 4000 euro now with surgery…that’s about 6000 bucks), so this year all prescription medication costs me now 1,5 EUR so I’m guessing I’ll get a shitload of ED-meds and valium (don’t know how to get a doc to prescribe those to me though) or something to get my mind off things.

BTW Got a response from the manufacturer of my Fin. Don’t know if I have the energy to discuss this further with them.

"As stated in our package leaflet, the side effects you have experienced while taking Gefina 5 mg are known and may occur in some patients due to an alteration of the ratio of estrogen to androgen. The symptoms you experienced three weeks after discontinuation of treatment with Gefina 5 mg are mainly the result of hyperprolactinemia. However, there is no evidence in literature and in medical databases that an increase of prolactin blood levels may develop after intake of finasteride, the active substance of Gefina 5 mg. There are actually reports of slight decreases in plasma prolactin levels after taking finasteride. On the basis of the pharmacological mode of action and the average elimination half-life of finasteride that is 6 hours, the appearance of hyperprolactinemia after three weeks of discontinuation of treatment can not been explained by the treatment with Gefina 5 mg and other pathological reasons should be considered. "

I don’t see how hyperprolactinemia causes peyronie’s etc. but oh well.

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Make sure he digs out the gland bro, if your chest looks fine when your cold its only gland tell your doc.
Or you,ll end up being sorry.

hey man i know it sucks trust me, i’m 22 right now everyone my age is out having the time of their lives while I have to go through this and all. I would have ended it all a long time ago if I didnt have anything to hold onto, but luckily there’s been a few of my friends and my brother who have got me through the roughest part over the past year. But in only two weeks on the xyrem things have gotten so much better, that it gives me a lot of hope. I’m not cured by any means, but I’m functional again I have energy etc I can do things in my life that I would not have dreamed of a month ago. I’m less emotionally numb, ie I can cry and all about it, hell I couldnt even do that a couple weeks ago. Anyway, all I’m saying is just hang in there, and try to keep goin and find the right doctors. I had to work my ass for a year and almost killed myself in the process (no not literally, but i felt like i was going to die at times during the fatigue spells). just keep goin i know it sucks but just take into account that there’s others here who can relate.

Thanks for the encouraging words. Will give this a year and see what happens. I’m mentally pretty fine now (except for the depression from all of this) and can function unlike six months ago, so it’s easier to hold on. If I too did not have friends and others to think about, I would not be here anymore as it was that bad.

I’m trying hard to land a job abroad to get my mind off things.
Oh the 1.5 EUR thing did not cover ED-meds, viagra 100mg costs about 25 USD a pill here and if things don’t improve I’m going to need a shitload of those. The name of the prostate meds is Omnic 0.4mg.

Edit: Omnic is flomax is the USA. After reading about the sides there is NO way I’m touching that, I don’t see how it could improve my situation. I’m no doc but as my PSA is fine, how could this be necessary?

Just a small update: Had the gyno surgery last wednesday in a private hospital. My surgeon removed two 7x7x2cm lumps of tissue so it was about the size of a small fist!! No wonder it hurt like hell. My other pec got really swollen two days after surgery and I had to have it drained, 2 dl of clogged blood was vacuumed out. There was blood everywhere and it was an uncomfortable experience, but I’m optimistic about the result.

Also got penicilline to take for a week post op to fight infection and got another strong antibiotics for my prostate issues, so if anything is infected down there it should be gone after this. Antibiotics sure have improved my look downstairs and things don’t feel cold anymore. If you are having similar problems, it might be something to look into.

Skin is oilier than before, I got a small case of back acne and my face is getting better…and I can tan now too! I’m guessing T and DHT is back up. I actually went to the tanning salon, put on some self tanner and everyone kept asking if I was coming home from Thailand or something lol. I actually looked healthy for the first time after this fin-mess.

Also got four injections of Oxynorm post-op for pain and I have NEVER felt so good in my life, I actually asked if I could have some to take home with me, but my humble request was denied:) I did notice that my breathing became heavy on it and my heart rate slowed down but I was too drugged up to be alarmed about it. I’m guessing something like that happened to Mr. Ledger. I’m starting to understand the mind of a junkie after that experience, it was SO good! Pain is minimal now, got some tramadol and vicodin (or similar in our country) to keep things under control.

As I said before, I am trying to avoid this place to leave this thing behind me, but will answer PMs. I am also been in contact with the manufacturer of my fin and their doctors. I do not have the energy for a case in court, but will try to get them to look into these potential dangers by getting them in contact with my doctor and the one who treated Dynaaminen and myself.

That’s all, good luck to everyone.

Your surgeon is positive this was in fact benign fatty tissue and nothing cancerous right? :slight_smile:

Which antibiotic were you prescribed, dosage, how long have you been taking it, and how can you be sure it was this antibiotic and not the pennicilin that was responsible for the changes “down there”? Also, can you describe in more detail the improvements downstairs that have taken place?

Will be sad to see you go, hope you will check in from time to time to say hello. Do you consider yourself “cured” now that you’ve had the gyno removed? How is your libido and ED, shrinkage/veins, nocturnal/morning/spontaneous erections?

Good luck, please keep us posted as to any progress with this.

No, I do not consider myself cured but I have done as much as humanly possible to make things right. Will check my T for the final time this week.

I took some other antibiotics before the penicilline, so I think that did it. Can def. be coincidental. Well my dick look a bit more healthy and the coldness and tightness downstairs is getting better. Still dark and a bit rough texture and it’s narrow as hell. I will post my dosages later when I have the energy and time. Will also tell how the eye-doc appointment went. As devastating as this has been, this has consumed all my time and energy so I really need to try to stop thinking about this.
OH the irony, this morning I was called to be on the local the Bachelorette-show. I guess the timing could not be worse, so I declined the honor.

I am interested in what the drug company will think of this. Will work with them on this one at a later point, now I need to focus on my thesis and job as this mess has set me back at least a year. All the best to you Mew.

Edit: I threw the box for the penicilline away and put the pills in a jar, but it’s basic penicilline (500mg?) twice a day. The antibiotics from my uro are called Ditrim duplo, two pills a day for ten days.
edit2: The “active ingredients” in Ditrim are in Finnish “Trimetopriimi & sulfadiatsiini”. If you are interested, I’m sure you can use google to find out what they are called in english, my guess is something in the lines of trimetoprime and sulfadiazine.

My right pec got swollen and it had to be drained. It was not pleasant. I even took a pic. This ought to be printed on fin-packages :slight_smile: Not in a million years did I think trying fin would lead to four urologists sticking their fingers up my ass, having to have testicular ultrasound, an MRI and gynosurgery!! This image is not safe for work nor it is it nice to look at: tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lxuj47&s=3

Last day on the peniciline. I have been having pain in my member, due to PD without a doubt.
Did an adverse effects report to the pharmacy and included copies of all my blood tests. Will se if I’m contacted. Not eager to talk about these issues to another person, but I REALLY want someone to look into this and bring a bit of awareness to the issue. Perhaps someone else can be saved from having to live this hell I have been in for close to a year now. Not much more I can do about this anymore.

Well it has only been three weeks, but the gyno operation wasn’t a complete success: scars are minimal but the result isn’t good. It looks like the surgeon only cut out the gyno it self but did not suck the excess fat out so it (at least at the moment) does not look natural. If it doesn’t get better, will have to make a complaint and hopefully another plastic surgeon from the hospital will make it right.

I have been extremely depressed about this whole mess and actually cried on my way to the gym. I just don’t think of myself as the same person I was prior to this and have been completely unable to experience any joy in such a long time that it is no way for a young man to live.

Has anyone else noticed an overall decrease in their sense of touch after fin? It’s really hard to explain, but touching my leg or arm feels like shit now and I am feeling unease and a bit anxious all the time. Also the skin feels cold in many places on my body, especially in the scrotum, lower back and in my neck.

For the exess fat in your chest, you need to cut big time get your bf down to 7% and you will be fine, so dont worry.

Got my latest test: T 32nmol (11-38) and prolactin 64 (0-300). As SHBG and E2 were checked before and were ok, I’m guessing my hormones have stabilized.

Persisting main problems:
-vision and speech not back 100%, have an appointment regarding the eye issue in a few weeks. Something is definitely off especially behind my right eye, as if there is excess pressure.

-dick. Sensitivity has improved, but erections are not what they were and it’s still narrower, veiny and bent to the left and there is a some mild discomfort/feeling of tightness and the tissue feels harder and not “meaty” and elastic as before (hard to explain). Have a urologist appointment on tuesday and will demand answers. My own ideas on the matter: prostatitis(as the antibiotics helped a bit, I have a throbbing feeling behind my scrotum and my cum is clumpy and grayish)? Peyronie’s only? Tissue changes due to crashed T-levels which will hopefully resolve or at least get better after blood flow and T have been fine for a long enough time? Will ask him for ideas.

I am no longer gaining weight and my face looks healthier, but I am only a shadow of my former self. Also my hair is still dry and brittle, but I’m guessing this is due to s.dermatitis infecting the scalp. Am using nizoral and Kerastase for sensitive scalps to fix that.

It has now been 10 months since I quit the drug.

I am now on valium to get my mind off these problems but overall feel much better as T has increased. Will visit once things improve. All the best.