if you can try the NO strips and turns out a low value on the strips correlates with worsening of symptoms and tinnitus, then you’ve got it pretty much solved
I’ve been meaning to ask you @Mario about this data:
Beet Root at 1,459mg/kg (range of 644–1,800mg/kg)[4]
• Radish at 1,868mg/kg (range of 1,060–2,600mg/kg)[5]
• Rocket at 2,597mg/kg[6]
• Spinach at 2,137mg/kg (range of 65–4,259mg/kg)[7][4][6][5][8]
• Lettuce at 1,893mg/kg (range of 970–2,782mg/kg)[7][4]
• Lamb’s lettuce at 2,572mg/kg[9]
• Rucola at 4,474mg/kg[9]
• Chinese cabbage 1,388mg/kg (range of 1,040–1,859mg/kg)[5][8]
• Swiss chard at 1,597mg/kg[9]
• Crown daisy at 5,150mg/kg[5]
• Dill at 2,936mg/kg[4
Was there a link for this?
I thought Rocket and Rucola (and arugula) were all the same thing, so I’m a bit confused.
When it says “lettuce” I’m curious if it is any specific type of lettuce. I eat two romaine heads a day, and I have for awhile. I eat them all in one sitting. On days when I cut out the lettuce it is possible that my blood flow is worse, but I’m not sure yet. I’m curious as to the content of the romaine.
In the same post, you quoted “You can safely eat close to 50 g of rucola in a day before exceeding this limit as long as you don’t consume other food or water with appreciable levels of nitrate during the same day.” from an article I think.
Maybe I missed it, but how many milligrams of nitrates are we shooting for in one day?
I’m surprised to hear arugula might be dangerous because of the nitrates. 50 g is so little.
You had written that the AOB spray might be our best option. Is that to increase the NO/NOx levels without having to consume so many nitrates?
Has anyone tried the spray?
Correction : The document does not imply a synergistic effect of D3. Instead it looks at the connection between UVA radiation and plasma nitrates :
I was just thinking about this regimen yesterday. Back in December I was juice feasting for about 2 weeks to start CDnuts’s protocol. I was juicing a ridiculous amount of greens, at least like 4 or 5 romaine heads or spinach bundles a day. This should have been a crazy amount of nitrates, and way more than 200 grams a day. I don’t remember feeling remarkably better.
Any possible thoughts about why this didn’t rid me of all of my symptoms?
Some questions :
-Did you make sure that you had a continuous intake (every 8 hours) of nitrates?
-Where you taking any other supplements / Testosterone Boosters etc ?
I felt much better in 10 days. This does not necessarily mean that this amount of days on the protocol is the same for all PFS sufferers. We just need more people to try the protocol. If we see that many people begin feeling better, then that will raise the confidence that we are on the correct route and that perhaps other sufferers may need a month or even more time on the protocol to begin feeling better.
From what i can understand, i should follow the protocol for months. It is really great to see that every week new positive changes are happening to me. I will say more once i have more concrete results, in the meantime i just hope that as many people as possible try the protocol.
EDIT : Just to give you an idea, i am about to go out with my g/f and i won’t be able to have my nitrate intake on 24:00. For this reason i will carry with me in my car (in a special container - “Fridge-to-go”) a 60-gram dose of rocket. I know this sounds crazy… but i am trying to follow the protocol as strictly as possible. Recall that while on holidays i had a slight tinnitus incident (which to my theory this is NMDA excitotoxicity which brings havoc to HPA Axis, Memory, Nervous system, Dopamine etc) because i wasn’t able to ingest nitrate-rich food every 8 hours.
Mario,
Yes on a juice feast, you are only drinking juice. So I was drinking juice every hour or every few hours. For the green juice, I had around a half gallon that i was drinking a day.
I think the best thing to do would be to order those strips that would let us know if we actually have low levels of NO/NOx. I’ll look into getting some depending on how expensive they are.
Maybe it’s not the amount of nitrates, maybe it is something else. If pfs really broke something in us, then maybe it will be necessary to do more than just add more nitrates. Perhaps the pathway of conversion involving the bacteria is messed up. Of course, this might be something completely out of control.
Any updates from anyone trying the protocol?
Hey guys, I need to add something else to this that I think is important. I’ve been doing the c.andida diet and have been feeling much better, as well as using nystatin enemas. It’s interesting to know that Nitric Oxide kills cand.ida over time and one of the primary survival functions of a fungus or bacteria is to inhibit the synthesis of something that can kill it…like nitric oxide production. This is possibly why my nose is hard to breathe through (nose breathing creates nitric oxide) and why we are all most likely low on NO and would benefit from increasing it because it kills ca.ndida.
We could assume that it would be a very good idea to do the can.dida protocols along with adding NO. All of these cures people are talking about (fasting, progesterone, NO, nystatin enema etc) all have one thing in common, the destruction, inhibition, or partial to total elimination of can.dida which has been long known to be caused by antibiotics or certain types of pharmaceuticals. I’m not saying our issue is caused by candid.a I’m saying it can’t be ruled out and is in the running of possibilities based on posts on this board.
I suggest that you try the regimen. You talked about “better blood flow” while having greens which means that you are on a constant “vasoconstriction state” which is exactly what i had. Being in this state not only will not allow you to have erections, it is highly dangerous. And another thing that just popped in my mind : Juicing greens is not the same as eating greens because you do not give enough time to the bacteria in your mouth to change nitrates to nitrite. If you search my posts you will see that i suggest that while you eat the greens, you make sure that you chew them for a somewhat prolonged time…so this could be the reason you didn’t feel better while juicing
I do not claim that rising NO levels will cure all PFS sufferers, i just realized that by raising NO through the nitrate pathway only - not through L-Arginine i solved all my problems. I am also constantly wondering how other people trying this regimen are doing. @xptriado, @Jonson, @elijah, @andyuk if you are reading this can you give us an update?
I am compiling a list of questions that according to the answers given suggest low NO levels. For example :
-Are you feeling better PFS-wise while you have fever?
-Do you have frequent occurrences of numb hands / feet?
-Do you have GERD / Dysphagia?
-Do you have frequent pains where your thoracic diaphragm is located?
Good Point. Everything i did that increases NO made feel great so i will also give this a try.
I will post an update at the end of next week. Meanwhile,i now visit the toilet two times a day (used to visit it every 3 days) and also i think that i should start Regaine because i strongly believe that some diffuse thinning is going on.
@Mario, my answers to those possible survey questions would be
-Are you feeling better PFS-wise while you have fever? I would say YES during and definitely YES after a fever. I had a couple weeks of near perfect temporary recovery after a fever. It’s like whatever mechanism helps control body temperature reset itself. My usually cold hands and feet were really warm for weeks.
-Do you have frequent occurrences of numb hands / feet? YES
-Do you have GERD / Dysphagia? Sometimes I have reflux, but not that often. Moreso before PFS. Dysphagia - No
-Do you have frequent pains where your thoracic diaphragm is located? No
@Mario, I look forward to the day when you hopefully get to post a full recovery. Maybe you should take some hair pics over time as a way to monitor your shedding. Hopefully it is a good sign and means your body is snapping out of PFS.
@BrongFogBoy, if that really is the root of our current pfs symptoms, why would so many of us experience temporary recoveries? I don’t think I’ve ever read about c.andida symptoms just letting off for a few weeks then coming right back and then letting off again months later for a few days, etc.
You feel better while you have fever because your body generates endogenous NO to fight off the infection.
Frequent numbing of hands (possibly) suggests that you are in a “vasoconstrictive” state due to impaired NO production.
I have had problems (pain, sometimes severe) at my diaphragm (please google to see where diaphragm is located) but not anymore. Researching the cause, impaired NO is one of the culprits
Dysphagia/GERD can also be attributed to impaired NO
There are many more symptoms i am just compiling the list and will post soon.
UPDATE
Even though i said i will write an update at the end of this week, i must report that i had a crash last night at around 4:00 AM. In numerous occasions previously while sleeping, i would come out from sleep and a couple of minutes after that i would have tinnitus. The same thing happened yesterday.
All i can think of for the cause of this is that i changed my regimen from spinach/rocket mix to just 200 grams of Lettuce per day. Unfortunately, i hate rocket / spinach especially when i have to eat it on its own. If i can add more ingredients (tossed olive oil & grated cheese with cherry tomatoes) it is great but this is not always possible. However eating lettuce on its own was never a problem for me so i gave it a try. I wish i had these NO strips available but it will take a month till i get my hands on them…
So i am switching back to rocket and will report back.
hi guys,
This is the second week that I’ve been eating about 100g of rocket every day + 50g sauerkraut, and I’ve been feeling very well and with good energy, except for a couple of half days where I had a mini crash with low energy and cold limbs, but that resolved during the day. This happened independently of the intake of salad. In the past two weeks I had bursts of energy that I had long forgotten to have inside me, for example last Saturday I passed by the amusement park in Coney Island and I felt the need to go to the most reckless roller coaster with 360 degrees spins, and feel the adrenaline kick. I didn’t have that sensation for ages. I’m rather satisfied of where I am today. The sexual sides are still there somehow, but in reduced form, it’s rare that I feel cold penis now, and I have better erections. To be honest, raising the NOx may not be a magic wand for every aspect of our condition, it’s unlikely that it will prevent someone from the initial PFS crash and provide only some relief to someone in the early stages. For the rest of us, even with the intake of NOx booster we may still have to stay away from 5ar inhibitors and p450 inhibitors for who knows how long, maybe for life. But hey, is there anything so easy to try that may improve things so much? I would recommend to everyone try this protocol because there is really nothing to lose.
A couple of things to add: I finished a 7 days water fast before beginning this protocol, and I also reduced dramatically the intake of wheat, at least the fortified with folic acid.
So overall I’m very enthusiastic, I’m very glad of where I am today with respect to a month ago.
One more thought, the benefits that I’m getting from this protocol seem similar to forskolin, although the boost from forskolin was short lived and less intense. Could it be that forskolin initially raised the NOx but then the effect subsided?
That’s a good point, and I want to reiterate that I don’t believe candid.a is at the root of our problems but I do believe it’s most likely a side effect most of us now have as estrogen dominance is scientifically shown to cause cand.ida overgrowth in women so it’s plausible that it happens in men:
Lions Mane and/or Ashwagandha both make me feel very brain fogged and all around awful. Takes two days to wear off for me.
I’ve noticed my erections are much less frequent in the past few weeks, this could be due to either the Lions Mane 2g dose or the progesterone or both. I’m off prog and will have to come off LM to see if it improves. Real shame about the LM because at a 2g dose my spasms have been less frequent which has me thinking that they are a result of a lacking in neuron protection which the LM resolves. And LM definitely reduced my high anxiety…you can’t win with this shit.
It must be Lion’s Mane. It is possible that when you stop it you will crash but fear not. Spasms are a typical side effect which i had for years (especially prior going to sleep but also throughout the day) and its due to low dopamine.
Impaired NO means no protection against NMDA Excitotoxicity. NMDA excitotoxicity affects critical brain structures that regulate hormones. It’s best that we stop this from happening and let our body take care of itself as opposed to giving Testosterone, Progesterone, Pregnenolone, etc
You can try Ashwagandha to lower anxiety and Cortisol. I’d also suggest that you stop progesterone slowly and start the NO/NOx regimen if you haven’t done so already.
Thanks Mario I have been concerned about the spasms, how did you increase dopamine or reduce the spasms?
The regimen hasn’t worked for me and I felt no difference after 2 weeks. However, 1 bottle of larger does make me feel better the next day so I’m not sure why the larger works but the regimen doesn’t.
Ashwagandha works on the GABA receptors so it could cause desensitization over a period of time longecity.org/forum/topic/54 … fectively/
I’m also taking pregnenolone although I might take a break from this over the summer.
The increase happens on its own as long as i have no crashes for at least 7-8 days.
You are still the only one so far who had no positive effect. Some questions :
-Do you get numb hands / legs especially while sleeping
-Do you have orthostatic intolerance?
-Are you following the methylation treatment as well?
- What are your symptoms?
-How is your Thyroid function, Free Testosterone, E2, CRP, SHBG ?
-What supplements do you take?
I assume that you did not use Mouthwash throughout the regimen and that you used rocket as the main Green vegetable of the regimen.
Just to make sure : When you say “1 of bottle of larger” does that mean “lager” (beer) or this is something else?
Thanks for your response Mario
-Do you get numb hands / legs especially while sleeping - No
-Do you have orthostatic intolerance? - No
-Are you following the methylation treatment as well? - No - Just bought but not these yet - selenium, tmg, folate and rhodiola (cortisol)
- What are your symptoms? - I have all the symptoms of Low T plus Muscle Spasms
-How is your Thyroid function, Free Testosterone, E2, CRP, SHBG ? SHBG is abnormally low 14nmol/L, E2 normal, Thyroid T4 normal 3.07 pg/mL, T3 0.69ng/dL borderline normal, CRP 0.20mh/L, hs CRP 0.51 mg/L, Free T 223 ng/L, cortisol free 8am 10.1 ng/mL, cortisol 8h 18 ug/dL.
-What supplements do you take? B complex, vit C, vit E, Ferritin, copper, mk-7, brewers yeast, vit D, zinc, copper, magnesium malate, magnesium sulphate, pregnenolone (naturally low levels), garlic, co q10, flaxseed oil, fish oil, AL Carnitine, glucosamine, bacopa, 5 htp.
I assume that you did not use Mouthwash throughout the regimen and that you used rocket as the main Green vegetable of the regimen. no mouthwash plus I used 200g+ of rocket, spinach plus other veggies
Just to make sure : When you say “1 of bottle of larger” does that mean “lager” (beer) or this is something else? Sorry that should have read lager.
Any clues here as to why things aren’t working? Cheers.
OK it’s good that you don’t have these side effects because all of these suggest endothelial dysfunction. Actually, there are many other questions Andy, i will PM you tomorrow.
If i hold my mobile 4-5 min my hands become numb.