Also you are completely off, Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 INCREASES LIFE SPAN!! Read about it
JustQuitDut: Just a quick question. Is sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 alone a cure? Or does it have to be combined with testosterone propionate to get the best results.
Thanks for your help
Fwiw, the guy on this blog has been dealing with Propecia issues for years and it looks like he tried Sermorelin in '12 with no benefit:
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HE WAS ONLY ON IT FOR 7 WEEKS!!! It takes 6 months on it, and he was only on Sermorelin, not with GHRP2 or GHRP6, also, I have been on the 3 of them before, during and after my crash and minimal results till I started doing 300mcg 2X a day and then I upped it to 3X a day out of fear of relapse.
7 weeks isnāt enough for Sermorelin to start working, and Sermorelin alone is not effective enough, which is why anti-aging doctors use GHRP2 and GHRP6. That is a totally non-legitimate counter argument, the dose must be correct, it must be on an empty stomach, 2 hours after eating and you cannot eat for 30 minutes or it does not work. It must be done 2 to 3 times a day or it will not work to reverse PFS, I have experimented with it extensively. I now have someone else who has recovered from PFS like me with Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6.
He also HAS LOW TESTOSTERONE!!! Look at his test results, low testosterone must be fixed before you can recover, you can fix PFS all day long and if you have low testosterone you will still have all the symptoms of PFS. I donāt see why I need to continue to prove to you guys that I found a treatment that works, if you all want to remain suffering with PFS and sit on this forum bashing merck all day and complaining about your problems go for it. If you want to try snake oil, lizard tails and frog legs, go for it, I am trying to share a REAL medical treatment that is being used to treat non-PFS sufferers who have the same symptoms as PFS sufferers. For all we know those people being treated with this HGH protocol have PFS, your link is bogus. If I stopped taking testosterone I would feel like shit with or without sermorelin/ghrp2/ghrp6, it is this HGH protocol that is allowing my body to utilize testosterone by regulating 5 AR activity. If I were to lower my testosterone I would have all the same symptoms of PFS.
With all due respect, if you did not mean anything by your post that is fine, but I am just tired of having to fight with people to help them here. I found a treatment that works and has reversed PFS in me and one other person with PFS who had been on this same treatment as me for a while and upped his dose as I did and same result. It may work immediately on a PFS sufferer at the doses I am specifying, I do not know, because no one has yet to try it.
Sermorelin alone is too weak and provides little effectiveness unless at very high doses.
Update: I decided that unless I relapse, I am going to only post to this thread to help others who want to use my protocol. I will not let the naysayers harm others from possibly going into remission or recovering, since my muscles came back my body is getting huge and women are chasing me again. I had 1 come up to me at the gym, it was only a month ago that I was skinny.
So I will come here and post updates and respond, but just to this thread. I donāt know if PFS can be cured, but it can be put into remission, and perhaps that will lead to a speedy cure. The good news is I am living life again and feel normal. I want to add that at these doses of Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 I am in some ways better than pre-PFS. I also am now experimenting with lower doses, I have lowered it to 200mcg 2 to 3X a day, I am going to find the lowest possible effective dose.
Please donāt take the link I posted as a hostile gesture. Iāve read your posts on here with great interest and am glad you have been contributing. And I hope youāll continue to do so, although obviously if you feel that itās better for your recovery to not be in here, I completely understand. I also recognize that your have unusual familiarity with hormones and supplementation ā certainly much more than me.
But if thereās one thing I would try to impress on you, itās this: There are people who have been here for years and who have tried countless regimens and protocols ā people who have been inspired by stories of recovery on here but who then experienced abject disappointment and frustration when those exact same recovery protocols and regimens failed to help them. People who have seen numerous new members emerge and insist that they have determined the cause of all of this and that they have the answer for fixing it ā only for those same new members to eventually adjust and modify and sometimes even retract completely their theories. Some people on this board have been dicks to you, and they shouldnāt be ā and youāre right to feel upset about that. But most of the skepticism that your posts have produced comes from guys like me, who badly want what youāre saying to be true and who are quite open to the possibility that it is. But weāve been down roads like this many, many times before. I know youāve been dealing with this for a few months, and it sounds like youāve been getting some decent, if erratic, results during that time, and that youāre now feeling great. Thatās terrific and really, Iām thrilled for you. But Iāve been dealing with this for years, and so have a lot of other guys here, and when you deal with this for years and you live through so many breakthrough claims that donāt end up helping you at all, you become a little reluctant to just accept it at face value when another new member shows up and confidently insists heās figured it all out.
Again, this is not meant to discourage you from being here. I canāt say it enough: Iām glad youāre here and I hope youāll stay, and Iād like to have an ongoing dialogue with you about all of this. But I hope you can understand why a lot of us are a little skeptical ā not in a way thatās meant to be a personal affront to you, but in a way thatās aimed at a dialogue that encourages the sharing and challenging of ideas and the creation and refining of new approaches to attack this.
The one time someone isnāt being hostile to me and I lash out lol, I am sorry, please accept my apology. I just have been on the defensive for a while since my remission, and I could go off and never return, but I will not, I must stay and see if this works long term and if so I must insist. I understand many have come and tried lizard tails and snake oil and others have tried more hard core stuff.
I come here with a very unique background in anti-aging medicine (not the scamming fraudulent steroid dealing doctors). I come from a background of doctors who are genuine and brilliant and at the forefront of anti-aging medicine. I found this treatment by accident, I had no idea it was helping me, that is why I was always ārecovering,ā and relapsing. I was on a low dose of Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6, it would regulate my 5 AR enzymes enough to intermittently respond to testosterone.
What is different about PFS in a guy on hormones is that it is magnified, every time you inject testosterone you go through a PFS crash (unless you have PFS at bay). The reason is because the regulation of the 5 AR enzyme system has been compromised. Any kind of androgenic compound will release 5AR enzymes and cause a feeling of recovery, but those enzymes will run out and the androgenic compound (testosterone for example) will remain in the body only to make you feel like shit.
At the same time I discovered Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 were helping me, I also discovered Testosterone Propionate is a very effective testosterone for PFS sufferers (and treatment). It induces the largest amount of 5AR enzymes of any testosterone, and it has a 2 day half life, so it hits and runs, so you feel great and no crappy feeling later. It also induces enough 5AR enzymes to reduce the rest of your testosterone for the week, but it will cause to a stronger extent the side effects of 5AR enzymes like hair loss, acne, etcā¦
2 weeks prior to this remission, I upped my sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 to higher doses, I had decided to try a multi-blast protocol. I hit myself with everything I could until something clicked and when it did, start eliminating to figure out what it was. I was desperate. I assure you PFS ravaged me, only now friends admit how different I am, 30 pounds of muscle lost for 5 fucking months, no libido all the same shit as everyone here. I gained back 30 LBS of muscle from my own HGH, I know others here have touted miracle cures, but none of them have been anything specifically impressive.
Triptorelin for example, it makes sense, but HGH is different, HGH is Human Growth Hormone, it restores and regenerates everything, but we know it also regulates 5 AR enzyme activity. I know many here are suffering, needlessly though, HRT done right (low doses) could have made you all 50% better. I found the 90%, it is strange, I know I have PFS, I know it is still here, and if I stop it will come back. It is almost as if HGH is reversing all the symptoms of PFS, I have many theories, but what I can say, is it works.
It has to work with everyone here, I have all the same reactions to hormones, the same symptoms, the same problems. I have helped others here with my theories on PFS, that it is a compromised 5 AR enzyme production system, that drugs that induce 5AR activity (such as DHEA) provide relief, and based on my theories people have felt better. 5 alpha for example, he followed my research and he has improved with DHEA. DHEA however, is the past for me, I have found a real treatment, but what I donāt know is how long it will take to kick in on a PFS sufferer who has not been on Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 for at least 6 months. Will it work instantly? Or will it take time?
I never tried injecting Sermorelin in high doses during a crash before, I was fed up, and I did it and it reversed my crash, it was the first time I was ever able to control PFS rather than manage to work around it. This was the answer I was looking for, but there are many unknowns, I donāt know how much testosterone I can handle, how much of the HGH protocol I need, I am trying lower doses. I am afraid of relapsing, imagine finding something that you could inject and it would reverse PFS? Starting to lower the doses and figure out what is required is scary, I donāt want to relapse. I just finally got my life back, and I have acquired a form of PTSD from PFS.
I live in fear of a relapse, I am constantly checking for symptoms of a relapse, I am sure in time this will go away, it is my hope that this treatment is also an eventual cure. It makes sense, even if this HGH protocol was not a way to reverse PFS, I would highly recommend it as it could not do anything but make your situation better. HGH improves everything and fixes everything, the fact that it is somehow reversing PFS is hard to believe, I know.
Donāt you owe it to yourself to at least try it? It will restore lost collagen, it will regenerate your skin to a younger state, your hair, your nails, your mood, everything. Those facts are indisputable, it is abused by athletes to heal quicker, we know that is a fact. This is not the kind of medicine any endo or doctor will prescribe, this is still way out there with respect to standard medicine. The idea of taking drugs to enhance human physiology is not what medicine has been about all this time.
I am waiting, before I ask everyone to start going on this, I am giving it time, so far it has been 2 weeks and I am in remission. If I miss a dose of this protocol the PFS will reemerge, but it is very easy to believe you are cured when you no longer feel PFS, you forget you have it. I am not leaving the forum as I no longer believe I will just heal from this condition anytime soon, but I do have it completely in remission. I urge you all to try this protocol, how can regenerating your cells and speeding up healing be bad for you in this state? If I could just get someone else here to start the protocol I could prove this works, I know there are lurkers reading my posts and following it, we will never hear from them. I have received messages from people telling me they appreciate my insights and posts, but we need someone who will try this, if this helps yet another person, it could help everyone here.
I donāt know about you, but I much rather live my life normally while I wait to sue Merck, the damage is still just as fucking bad. Ask me questions that you have, I will answer them.
Iām reading up now. To be honest I find it quite overwhelming. So much to take in.
Where do you source the hormones? How expensive? If I wanted to try something like this Iāve no idea how Iād even obtain it or monitor its effects safely. I do have an understanding doctor, but heās NHS and a GP, not an anti-ageing expert.
btw JustQuit, I still donāt understand the difference between injecting HGH and stimulating your body to produce more than it currently is. Surely both have the same pros and cons. I am inclined towards the view there is no such a thing as a free lunch.
Another point Iād make is youāve tried A LOT of things recently, and nearly all of them have been cures. How can we be sure this isnāt a logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc? i.e. āSince event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X.ā
Iām trying and have every incentive to WANT to believe you, but I find this all hard.
Thanks for the thorough reply. As I said, I am interested in this approach and am considering seeking out an anti-aging doctor to explore it. That said, the above quote makes me wonder if weāre experiencing something different than each other. Because Iāve taken T and what you seem to be describing ā short bursts of recovery followed by crashes when the diminished supply of 5ar runs out ā has not been what has happened to me. Yes, the first T injection I took (in Nov 2012) delivered an amazing (if uneven) initial result: it took a few days to click, but I experienced a complete return of sexual function, which then seemed to flicker on and off (some days I was as horny as I used to get, other days I had zero sex drive), before fading out completely after two weeks. From that point forward, I never experienced any benefit ā even a short term one ā from a T shot. Whatās more, I didnāt take T for a full year until very recently ā a few weeks ago, when I took a small dose. I wanted to see if after a year away from it (and after paying more attention to diet/exercise/lifestyle factors) my body would respond differently. Unfortunately, though, there was no response ā not even a slight jump in sexual interest/erection quality.
So long story short: The theory youāre putting forward is very interesting to me, and like a lot of guys here, I am very suspicious about the role of 5ar activity in all of this. I have the same rock bottom 3-adiol G levels that so many others here have documented. But you seem to be arguing that T should provide temporary bursts of improvement for us, until our 5ar runs out. But that does not mesh with my own experience. Like I said, I get no initial improvement of any kind even when I take a small dose of T.
I got no improvement with testosterone either, only sometimes, I couldn't figure out why, it was driving me mad. Why would one week I inject and feel horrible, then the next week I felt something sometimes when the levels were low. Your 5AR enzyme production may be completely compromised, or because I was on a low dose of Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 my body was able to generate enough 5AR enzymes to sometimes feel something.
This condition compromises the 5AR enzyme production, I know that for sure, others here on HRT have listened to me and responded to lower doses of testosterone. That is not acceptable enough to me, but it is better than nothing, I had to find a way to feel full testosterone again. We all don't have PFS as bad as everyone here, you may have it worse, or perhaps some here produce some HGH of their own in higher doses than you.
The key is to go on this protocol for a while, like 6 months, see how you feel, it may work very quickly, but the doses need to be high. I tried lowering them and symptoms started to return, then boosted them back up, I am still experimenting, so I don't update this thread with everything I do as I will drive you all mad if I did. Your body can't reduce testosterone to DHT because you have no 5AR enzymic activity, or it is not being regulated. This protocol we know for a fact will reverse many of the symptoms of PFS in time, why? It does that for many men, these are documented medical science facts, this isn't some snake oil.
I really wonder if a lot of men who have had to go on HGH therapy have PFS, think about it!? The other protocol is testosterone propionate, it cannot be neglected, it could provide immediate relief to most guys here. I can tell you that I am not responding to testosterone 100% normally, but I would rate myself at 90%, PFS is still here, I am just reversing it with this protocol. I have testosterone propionate handy for when/if I need a boost. The way 5AR enzymes work is you produce a bunch and then they start reducing test to DHT, this is the mystery as to why DHT would not work on guys with PFS. The problem isn't directly DHT, it is the functions of these bloody 3 enzymes.
Right now I am doing nothing but the Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 and my standard HRT protocol, I haven't done the test propionate again. I wonder if this HGH protocol is a treatment and eventual cure, it may be only time will tell. We have to wait and see, but trust me, I may not have typed it in this forum, but I have PFS and I just have been doing things non stop to reverse the symptoms of it. Any kind of jolt to the 5AR system provides a little relief, but right now HGH is reversing this curse about 90%.
I am giving off very weak male scent, but everything else is working, I suspect in time that will come back, it is possible that high doses of this protocol are needed for an extended period of time to repair the damage and then I can lower it down. I am continuing to experiment, I will report if I relapse though, so far thank God I have not.Oh, to answer your other question, all of the things I tried resulted in eventual relapses, none of them cured me, only once did I recover for 2 weeks, I now know it was because of the Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 as I have duplicated the recovery.
I have had 5 months and a lot of time and resources to try a lot of stuff every single week, so every week has been something new, when I found something that worked I would keep with it. Nothing worked consistently, the only reason I was recovering was because of the Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6, the better I felt the more I would take. It is kind of the type of thing I saw as an extra, something to do when I was all better, I mean who cares about your skin, hair, nails and growing younger when you are suffering from PFS.
I just had no idea the doses I was on were too low to really be effective, the testosterone propionate worked amazing, but I only did it once and it was after my HGH protocol started working. It may have been a coincidence as I had already started recovering.
No, this is working, hopefully it will work long term, all I can do is keep this thread updated, it would be nice if someone else here would go on it as well.
Remember that I have been on this protocol before, during and after the crash, at small doses and not consistently, I would miss a day, do it on a full stomach etc.. The reason all my "cures," kept making me think I was recovering was because my "recovery" would coincide with using Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 consistently and at higher doses. I just did not put 2 and 2 together until recently, I now know what was making me feel better.
As for your first question, HGH is not harmful or dangerous, but synthetic HGH cannot be regulated by your body, if there is too much, your body cannot get rid of it and things will continue to grow. That is the danger with synthetic HGH, but your own HGH is regulated by your autonomic system, if you induce too much HGH your body down regulates it. It is like for example an organ transplant, we all know that if we could regenerate our own heart we would be better off with it than a transplant due to organ rejection.
Why your body regulates its own HGH is probably for a similar reason, it is your own and not synthetic. I agree with you about a free lunch, but the human body wasn't designed to live as long as we are today, this treatment was devised to give older people the ability to remain young. While it does not directly increase lifespan, it increases quality of life which in turn leads to a longer life span.
Also, synthetic HGH creates a problem where your body becomes tolerant to it and it stops working, this does not happen with your own HGH. I was worried about going on it at first too, then after doing it on my own for a couple years I went to my anti-aging doctor terrified of my test results. I only found out that my levels were perfect, because the drug is safe, you can't end up with levels that are too high because your body just gets rid of what is too much.
PFS is dangerous, more dangerous than anything you can take, blocking all these 5AR enzymes can lead to high grade prostate cancer studies are saying. These drugs like propecia can cause high grade prostate cancer, so if PFS is a super induced state of being on propecia, then reversing those effects cannot be a bad thing. Anyway, this treatment is safe, it is being done all over the world by anti-aging doctors, and I get my levels monitored, but everything always turns out good.
After the age of 30 your HGH levels drop extremely low, I assure you you have low HGH. I know this is a lot to take in, I have studied it for years prior to this, so I am well versed in it, you can buy these peptides and mix them yourself. Page 11 of my thread explains everything in detail, these peptides are not even regulated drugs, Sermorelin can be prescribed for off label use, it is not considered a regulated drug (like HGH). This is like taking a testosterone booster to boost your own testosterone, I mean how much testosterone are you really going to produce on your own? Same concept with HGH, it is never going to be so much that you end up looking like the incredible hulk. Though, what is funny is everyone keeps commenting on how big I am getting.
I am much bigger now than pre-PFS, I always ignored sermorelin, I thought it didnāt do much, I was using too low of a dose, I knew that, but it makes you hungry and I was afraid of getting fat. That was why during PFS I used less Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6, with hormones not working my muscles shrunk and any fat I gained was more pronounced. Whoever wants to try this protocol, I will be happy to guide you, it will only help us all of someone else can go on this and also have the same results.
Make no mistake, PFS is still here, I am only reversing it, HGH regulates 5 AR activity, and it must be regulating my 5 AR activity, it is my hope that the HGH is somehow repairing the damage done by finasteride/Avodart in time.
Thanks for your response JustQuitDut. No one can accuse you of lacking effort and enthusiasm, thatās for sure.
Is there a way to get my HGH tested?
Your hgh is low, trust me, it drops by 30 and with PFS it must be, you can get it tested but that doesnāt matter. I got mine tested and I was on this protocol and it showed up good, in order to reverse PFS I had to do larger doses 3x a day. Any anti aging doctor will tell you you have low levels anyway because their philosophy is to have all your levels the same as when you were 21. To be honest, itās reversing PFS, turns back the clock, save yourself the trouble and buy it and go on it from s peptide site. Page 11 of my thread explains it all, I simply canāt live with PFS and I donāt care what I have to take so long as it makes me better. In this case, this is something I had been meaning to really give a try (before PFS), it just makes you so hungry I never bothered. I know this is a lot of information to take in, I posted a video on sermorelin of a lecture by an anti aging doctor. Itās in this thread, did you see it? Watch the video, it will put your mind at ease, this doctor does an amazing job explaining the benefits. Of course medicine has evolved a bit to add ghrp2 and ghrp6, they do the same thing just better.
I wonder if you could elaborate on your thinking on this ā because I think itās a key point and Iām not sure Iām understanding what youāre saying. If the problem is limited/no 5ar activity ā and therefore limited/no T being converted to DHT ā why wouldnāt supplementing DHT work? Or would it? One of the users who has reported a recovery on here, CDNuts, used AndroHard, a DHT prohormone, in conjunction with a strict healthy lifestyle.
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I wonder if you could elaborate on your thinking on this ā because I think itās a key point and Iām not sure Iām understanding what youāre saying. If the problem is limited/no 5ar activity ā and therefore limited/no T being converted to DHT ā why wouldnāt supplementing DHT work? Or would it? One of the users who has reported a recovery on here, CDNuts, used AndroHard, a DHT prohormone, in conjunction with a strict healthy lifestyle.
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It seems to be a complicated concept for people to grasp, I have had to explain it a bunch of times and people are still confused, to be honest, so are most doctors. This isnāt something as a doctor you need to use in every day practice, usually you inject test and your body converts it to DHT and that is it.
There are three 5 alpha reductase enzymes, 5AR enzyme 1, 5 AR enzyme 2, 5 AR enzyme 3, the first one is responsible for sebum production (oily skin), hair and muscle growth, the second is responsible for libido and all kinds of male sexuality. 1 and 2 are very similar, I forget the differences, but if you look at what they do, you will find that most of the things the enzymes do are functions PFS sufferers lack.
Then there is the 5 AR enzyme 3, this is responsible for ocular and nuerological functions, so forget DHT and forget testosterone, just focus on these 3 enzymes for a moment. Think of them as organs with functions, when testosterone is injected or released into the body, in a normal man an unlimited amount of these enzymes are created. The enzymes as they reduce testosterone to DHT have functions, if you remove the enzymes, you lose the functions, this is why DHT does not work properly and why testosterone does not work properly.
My theories are the only ones that explain why PFS sufferers react the way they do to hormones and donāt react the way they do to hormones. I have heard CDnutsā story referenced many times, but one theme I have found with all stories is that the sufferer recovers in 1 year or 4 years (usually 4 years). It is possible that the ones who recover have higher HGH levels than the ones who do not. I have always said that I do believe this condition is damage and that we will heal and recover eventually.
I already live a healthy lifestyle, eat perfect, a company makes all my food, gluten free, organic, I workout 5 times a week for 1 hour to 1.5 hours all weight training. I donāt drink or do drugs (except weed), I drink water basically. While I do believe a healthy lifestyle will help you to recover, I donāt believe natural shit is going to make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things, either you will recover or you wonāt, some faster than others.
CDnuts may have been inducing the release of 5 alpha reductase enzymes with these drugs he was on. If you injected a small dose of testosterone propionate, I am willing to bet you would feel cured, because it induces so many of these enzymes. Bodybuilders use it to get their libido back while on cycle, and it works, I tried it, but it was at the same time I discovered the HGH protocol was reversing my PFS.
This is a serious condition that requires a drug to treat it, a serious drug, we donāt know if all of the recovery stories are PFS sufferers or simply people with low testosterone either. The human male body was designed to work with these enzymes, when you shut them off you turn off male humanity! You just unplug it, and as you know you feel like a robot. When on testosterone a PFS sufferer can realize these symptoms magnified. I was going through a crash every week, at first testosterone did not work at all, it just made me feel like shit.
We know HGH is a miracle drug that reverses all kinds of signs of aging and stops all kinds of signs of aging. If I had tried the HGH protocol and it did not work, I would stay on it just because it can only make things better. We know from recent research that HGH regulates 5AR enzyme activity, I do not believe we are unable to produce 5AR enzymes, I believe it has to do with regulation of them somehow.
I am a unique case, I was on Propecia for 13 years, I stopped for hair transplant surgery, then I went to my HRT doctor and he told me I could up my dose of testosterone to 1cc. I knew I could not handle it without breaking out really bad as I have severely oily skin. I can actually see when my body is producing 5AR enzymes (even to the slightest extent) by looking at my skin in the mirror. I am very vain and so always have my oily skin under control, but as my symptoms improve my skin becomes more oily.
I went on Avodart to block the 5AR enzyme 1 to stop my oily skin, in retrospect it triggered latent PFS from the finasteride. I am not sure if it is the actual HGH or if the precursors inducing the Petuitary gland to release HGH are also inducing 5AR enzyme activity. I tend to believe it is HGH, it fixes everything, and since I have been on these higher doses of the precursors I have gotten HUGE muscles. I had no idea if I injected more of this stuff I would get so big, I am bigger than pre-PFS!
I know that the HGH is regulating my 5AR enzymes as my skin is oily again, when I am in a PFS crash the oil stops, if my skin is slightly oily I slightly feel better, it is all linked. This disorder isnāt androgen receptors or anything like that, I am pretty sure I have it nailed, so far no one has been able to dispute my arguments, and when my theories are put into practice they work. You have seen 5 Alpha stating that DHEA has made him feel better, but I grew tired of trying to make myself feel better. I wanted to reverse this condition, I found a way, I would like to start a Sermorelin/GHRP2/GHRP6 project and get a bunch of people on here to go on it.
What I would like to know is if it will work right away for a PFS sufferer or take 6 months (as is standard for this protocol). I have been experimenting with lower doses, but as I lower the dose, the PFS starts to come back, and it took me 2 weeks on this dose for it to start working (after having already been on this long term). I welcome questions, would you be willing to try this protocol? I am willing to guide you through it, letās see what happens, it canāt hurt you, it will only help you feel better.
Heās saying the key to feeling better is to stimulate/restore production of the 5AR enzymes that got destroyed by the DHT inhibitets. Heās saying doing so will make you feel better for two reasons:
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5ar enzymes not only convert the T-DHT but also regulates how the body uses and responds to DHT. This makes so much sense and Is an ingenious explanation on why simply taking DHT does not help us.
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even though when it comes to testosterone itās not about how it gets in are blood, it just needs to be their and will work as far as doing what testosterone is supposed to do. However DHT is not that easy. It does matter and needs to be produced from within via 5ar activity.
Makes so much sense. Big question is will hgh restore are enzymes? It did for him for the time being. W can discuss this to deathā¦ We just need to man up and get someone to try it. Iām working on it. My head is just spinning I have so much going on right now so Iām waiting
5 Alpha, you are very smart, you have always followed me and been able to understand my arguments, due to the nature of your job I understand you need a prescription before you go on this. I recommend you go to any anti-aging doctor you can find just to score the script and then buy the shit off a peptide site instead of refilling, though I highly recommend the one I use, only because I can safely say it is good quality, but whatever peptide site you use, make sure to check the reviews.
The only thing I do not know is if it will kick in right away or take the standard 6 months, believe me, I have all the same symptoms as everyone else here. The key to diagnosing PFS is how PFS sufferers react to testosterone, a normal guy reacts one way and a pfs sufferer another. This protocol requires patience though, if it doesn't work instantly then it could take 6 months, even me being on this long term, it took 2 weeks before the higher doses started making a difference.
Also, apparently HGH can make you regrow all your hair! We know that we can produce 5AR enzymes, just by taking DHEA you have proven my theories. So far everything I have told you, that you have done, has worked for you as it has for me, there is no reason this HGH protocol will not also work for you. Not to mention, the shit is amazing, in some ways I am better than pre-PFS, but I still have PFS, and knowing that without this stuff I will fall apart sucks. I hope that eventually it repairs the damage, I do believe it will, but what are you waiting for? It could take 6 months for this shit to kick in, start now, dude I got my life back! Perhaps staying on this protocol we can add other protocols that might actually heal the damage faster, but what the hell works better than HGH at healing anything? Also I want to add that muscle from HGH is solid and totally different than muscle from testosterone, HGH actually causes you to grow new muscle cells.
5 alpha, the DHEA worked, go on this now, if you are lucky it might start working in a month, I think at these higher doses it may, but I don't want to make any false promises as it is supposed to take 6 months for this stuff to start working.