I place the spears on a microwaveable plate with some water on it, then I cook for 3 mins, rotate and cook for 5 more mins, let cool and eat. I use regular green asparagus
After I got home tonight I put a bunch of raw Asparagus in the microwave, no water, just for about 4 or 5 mins with butter on it, I think like 6 minutes. You want it to be not too cooked, you want it to be a little more fresh I would think, but I don’t know. I just assume, that is usually the case, but I haven’t needed to add any water, it seems to have so much of its own water in it that it comes out great
Justquitdut where are U getting your trib from?
I got mine from worldabs.com
It’s suppose to have high levels of perdesocrine in it or what ever it’s called
I am currently taking it combined with DHEA and I am feeling almost cured as far as ability to achieve and matain erections.
Sperm wattery and weak orgasism still.
But this combo is awesome
Wow!! I also noticed sperm more watery as well!! Orgasms feel amazing though
5 Alpha, I have been mocked on this forum for my theories, and look how in practice they are helping us, these are 5 AR inducers. I also feel better since I started this therapy, I believe Asparagus is essential too, I have been too afraid to try to supplements without Asapragus, but I will. Don’t want to crash again, but I got mine from amazon.com/Mediherb-MEDIHERB … B0006II9Y0
It was where this other guy on here got his and said it cured him and the only thing that worked. It is called “Protodioscin,” there is a methyl form of it “methyl protodioscin,” I am currently exploring getting some to inject into myself. They sell it as a powder I guess for research purposes, I have to research more, but it has been used as an anti-cancer treatment, it shrinks tumors.
Would be much easier if we could just use an injection once a day or a week or whatever, so that is where I am looking. Protodioscin is one of the only things I have found that actually causes 5 alpha reductase release, coincidence? Or are my theories sound? I was able to handle a higher dose of testosterone after taking enough of that stuff.
Its not a good idea to cook food in a microwave as it will kill most of nutrients in the food.
Yea, even though it tastes much better, after microwaving it, it doesn’t seem to work as it did when I ate them raw.
It took World A.B.S many months of dedicated research to find a specialist grower of this powerful natural herb and a company that has the technology to standardise the Tribulus to a minimum of 95% Protodioscin.
That info is copied directly from the world abs website.
I want to get to the bottom of what’s the best trib product we have available to us. For the purpose of what we need it for I’m talking about.
Please keep me updated with the possibility of protodioscin injections.
So far I am responding to the Tirbulus from Medi Herb that the guy on here claimed cured him. Though I require high doses, I have been popping pills every hour, or every few hours to establish a baseline. The guy who was cured also stated that this stuff resets androgen receptors in mice or something, so it isn’t just that it induces 5AR release, but it somehow resets androgen receptors. You will have to research it, let me know if you find a better form of Protodioscin, so far it has helped me, Finatruth and this other guy who says he was cured. So we are onto something here, apparently you are only supposed to take it for 2 week stretches, I don’t see why. You don’t have to eat Asparagus for 2 week stretches, have you read this guy’s post? Apparently too much he said too long can kill the libido, but I am not sure about that. I suppose it makes sense though, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, give your body a chance to work on its own.
I haven’t looked into the injection extensively yet, have yet to find it, just the methyl protodioscin powder which I imagine when mixed with bacteria static water would be injectable. I just don’t want to fuck with injecting something that I don’t know how much etc… So I am going to keep looking.
Could you post a link to the website you found the powder on that you are looking into.
If we are looking for a way to get more protodioscin in are bodies that we have the ability to get through consuming and if finding a way to inject it is a bad idea (for obvious reasons) do you think we can find a way to get the powder form of protodioscin you speak of in some type of gel or topical that we would use like androgel or even sustain alpha.
If you do not know what sustain alpha is it was a product that primordialperformance.com sold.
That company as I’m sure you know for shut down by the FDA. They are the same company that sold androhard.
The sustain alpha they sold was a transdermal gel that got rubbed on your body. It had natural herbs in it that increased LH and FSH like trib does.
Anyways primordialperformance sold a topical gel that you could use to create your own products with. It was a gel that had noting in it. The idea was to buy that topical
Delivery system that was made to have good absorbing capabilities and mix your own herbs and drugs in it. In other words what ever the hell you wanted to put in it you would just put in it.
What’s stoping us from getting that topical gel and adding the powder in it?
Other than the fact that .primordialperformance. Is not around anymore of course…
Obviously there is a lot more I would need to learn before attempting this… But what do you think of the idea? Does it have potential ?
Fuck it why not throw powder dhea in with it and make this the ultimate pfs treatment.
What would we need to do to the powder first before it would have the ability to mix in with the gel?
I am not sure DHT will help, my theories are that this disorder is damage to the actual production of 5AR enzymes, while others here do not agree, I am certain it is the problem. The 5AR enzymes have functions, when they are repressed the things that are happening would happen, so we are producing some, but not an unlimited quantity to reduce all testosterone. In your case, you have normal testosterone, actually good testosterone, your body is not able to reduce testosterone to DHT via the 3 enzymes. You are reducing some (like me), but not unlimited.
So I do not believe DHT will work, my theory is the only one that explains why hormones only work intermittently. I inject test, use up all my 5AR enzymes, then crash, the human body wasn’t designed to function without 5AR enzymes, so what happens? Something just doesn’t feel right, because we weren’t designed to work this way.
It seems that 4 years is a a recovery time most people take at the longest, coincidentally according to the Avodart pharmacist I spoke to that was the longest it took the less than 1% to recover. As for the powder, I kept googling protodioscin and eventually found it somewhere in powder form. One thing is for sure, it is helping me, it does induce 5AR enzyme production, that is why it is helping people. I have concluded for now that raw asparagus is the best treatment currently, I am not sure about Tribulus, I have been taking it, but it seems that I require very high doses, and I seem to get that from raw asparagus.
The gel is an interesting idea, I am weary of injecting as there is no real injectable form readily available, it has been used for rat studies I know. It does have anti tumor and anti cancer properties, it also seems to reset the androgen receptors in rats. I found the powder, I wonder if it is used to make supplements, I may buy some and try putting it in food or something. I am afraid to inject it, we just don’t know if it is safe, not contaminated etc…
alibaba.com/showroom/buy-met … oscin.html
It is certainly worth a try ingesting it though
I wanted to add, that if PFS was damage to the androgen receptors and NOT damage to the 5AR production, then how come we all get boosts of recovery when trying something that induces 5AR activity? Then when we run out of 5AR enzymes we crash, if this was androgen receptor damage, we would never ever ever feel better, not sometimes feel better and sometimes not, my theory stands the tests so far.
Not sure why my reply didn’t post, but that is infancy, I am very familiar with the condition, but those infants were born WITHOUT the enzymes. Not all 3 are missing though, only 1 of the 3, I believe the 5AR 2 is what they are deficient in, there are no known conditions that are deficient with the 1 or the 3, 3 is responsible for visual and neurological and 1 for libido, sexuality, all the stuff that is fucked up in us.
We grew up producing these enzymes and then they stopped, our body doesn’t know how to deal with it. I might also add that these infants are treated with HCG, but it is a different condition altogether, we are normal adults that have had the rug of 5AR pulled from out under us. Believe me depressed guy, my theory didn’t just come up, I have researched all of this stuff, and I know this is the case now, that this condition is a lack of 5AR.
Not only that, but all of a sudden Protodioscin an inducer of 5AR is helping people here (me included)? Depressedguy, if your test is low you won’t have any improvement from it, but if you have good test, go get raw asparagus and eat it! lots of it, and within 24 hours let us know if you feel any changes, it can’t hurt!
Your post came, i sent my post 2 different topics.
oh, well trust me depressed guy, this is what is going on, when I get better I have side effects of 5AR activity, when I get worse I have side effects of repressed 5AR activity. We took a drug that blocked 5AR enzymes and our bodies are not producing them now consistently. The reason I am doing better than most is because I produced TOO MUCH 5AR enzymes, that was why I took Avodart, to clear up my skin. So now even compromised I am still able to get by because of my over production.
You are probably correct this is due to high cortisol. Thinning skin, fat redistribution, etc. Have you seen improvements?
This is why I shake my head when I hear people getting on dexamethasone. Finasteride is a pretty potent indirect corticosteroid. Of course you felt good on it briefly. Taking dexamethasone too will make you feel good briefly, but will destroy you longterm.