Was Andreas Lubitz, co-pilot of the Germanwings Airbus A320 flight who deliberately crashed the plane, on finasteride?
If you look at his photo, he seems to have a receding hairline that was a bit advanced for age 28:
telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … U9525.html
The point here is that authorities need to at least ASK if he was on finasteride, so to rule that possibility out. The finasteride question needs to be universally standard in all suicide investigations.
It was my first thought when I saw the Picture of him.
Glad you agree. Again, I’m not a conspiracy theorist or anything. But we’re pretty sure finasteride contributed to Robin Williams’ death. So we need to be aware that PFS can have implications far beyond just a few guys sitting around with lower libidos.
It may have conceivably been linked to the horrific deaths of 150 innocent people aboard an otherwise safe aircraft. And that plays into what The Wall Street Journal is reporting today:
blogs.wsj.com/pharmalot/2015/03/ … much-more/
Millions of men around the globe take finasteride and some small subset DO develop PFS and a subset of that subset DO take their own lives.
These kind of threads are ridiculous. Embarrassing to be honest.
He is obviously insane, finasteride cant explain his behaviour.
Again, all we’re saying is asking about finasteride use should be part of investigations into all such suicidal events. If he wasn’t taking the drug, that’s that. But if he was, then that’s a lead to follow up on.
Sounds simple, but until authorities around the globe know that finasteride can and DOES lead to suicide, they won’t know to have that question on their checklist.
Remember: Robin Williams was on finasteride.
Yeah but I dont think its really useful. Obviously the pilot was a mental basket case, with or without finasteride. A normal person does not murder 150 people, just because of PFS.
Generally speaking of course finasteride has to be outlawed, unless genetic predispostions can be indetified be beforehand.
oh gosh I instantly knew that this conspiracy occures when I log in to this website and it happens …
I hope no one ever do something like this I don’t think it would be beneficial to us in any way .
But you’re acting like the pilot – assuming he did take finasteride – is the criminal. He would be the victim in that case.
The criminal is Merck and the FDA and all the doctors who continue to prescribe finasteride.
Come on. What the hell are you talking about?
It is quite abnormal to commit suicide because of PFS.
However it is a order of magnitude more abnormal, to murder 150 people by crashing a plane.
To be honest you are overstating the effects of finasteride. Its totally unproductive, and sounds, quite frankly, insane. You cant establish a link. You have to be mentally insane from the beginning to commit attrocities like this. That this is not totally obvious to you, and that you would allow yourself to go so far as to describe the pilot as a vitcim, is shocking.
Do you really think, swallowing finasteride leads a normal person to commit a mass murder? Should that be part of the finasteride label? Caution might lead you to slam airplanes into mountains killing hundreds of people including mothers and babies?? Right. Obviously this guy was a sociopath from the beginning and nobody noticed it.
This website is full of bs like this. No wonder nobody is takind us seriously.
well pvdl if you make society responsible for it you could do something like that ( not you personally )
I mean who is responsible that we felt unconfortable with our hairloss the beau ideal … therefore you could say after years of frustrations that people like you and me(the society) are responsible that we had to take finasteride to feel comfortable again so what I want to say is you
can make all people responsible for everything. think about you in about 5 years who knows what kind of person you gonna be …
I am on your side but it is not “abnormal to comit suicide because of finasteride.”
to all I am not a conspiracist but don’t believe anything and wait until the investigations are done.
I dont understand your argument. Initially a chronic disease is mentally most taxing, over time you get used to it. So your argument, that in 5 years I will be a basket case doesnt make much sense. Its the same with other chronic but none life threatening illnesses, where the side effects stay constant (more or less) over time (like tinnitus).
I am saying that this pilot was a sociopath. End of story. I frankly dont care if he took finasteride and if he had PFS, because PFS cant explain being a sociopath. Whats so hard to understand about this??? And no, making society responsible for PFS and thus killing 150 people is not logical or normal behaviour. To imply so, makes 0 sense. This is the behaviour of a sociopath.
To me this threads sounds like some guys overstating the effects of PFS, and whinning about their condition. You guys need to get a grip (“How will you be in 5 years??”, what a whinny stupid question, when discussing this accident.) Totally unproductive.
Really these kind of threads should be deleted, as they make us look like total idiots.
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I dont understand your argument. Initially a chronic disease is mentally most taxing, over time you get used to it. So your argument, that in 5 years I will be a basket case doesnt make much sense. Its the same with other chronic but none life threatening illnesses, where the side effects stay constant (more or less) over time (like tinnitus).
I am saying that this pilot was a sociopath. End of story. I frankly dont care if he took finasteride and if he had PFS, because PFS cant explain being a sociopath. Whats so hard to understand about this??? And no, making society responsible for PFS and thus killing 150 people is not logical or normal behaviour. To imply so, makes 0 sense. This is the behaviour of a sociopath.
To me this threads sounds like some guys overstating the effects of PFS, and whinning about their condition. You guys need to get a grip (“How will you be in 5 years??”, what a whinny stupid question, when discussing this accident.) Totally unproductive.
Really these kind of threads should be deleted, as they make us look like total idiots.[/quote
You didn’t get my point … and a psychopath doesn’t act logical by the way . you seem to have no life altering side effects or sexual . otherwise you’d know or could at least understand that sexual deprivation can someone turn into a killing machine. And don’t insult people being whiny who live a lot longer than you with this condition . I didn’t insult you and I don’t want to be insulted . I do agree to your last sentence that this thread should be deleted .
Again, the whole point here is that authorities need to ask the question, Was he on finasteride?
If not, case closed.
If so, then they continue that line of investigation.
And no PFS patient should have to be representative of some fictional “community” of PFS patients. That’s like saying women should react a certain way to rape or a rape attempt.
The criminals here are Merck and the FDA. They know that finasteride can lead to suicide. And yet they keep it on the market.
The point is that by allowing the production and disbursement of finasteride to continue, Merck, other drug manufacturers, and the governments that permit and allow them to continue doing so are all contributing to greater societal ills. Why do you think heroine, and cocaine are illegal in the US? Because if everyone in the US was addicted to these drugs it would hurt the economy, stability and power of the United States.
But allowing the drug companies to continue peddling extremely dangerous substances like finasteride is only doing the same, if not worse then many illicit narcotics. Pharma companies are nothing but cartels who are being protected by the government itself. And their actions are causing nearly as much harm as good. I would say, that I would have been better off developing a severe cocaine habit then having been given finasteride by my doctor.
Saying finasteride causes depression and can lead to suicide in extreme cases is one thing.
Saying it leads a NORMAL! person to commit a mass murder is quite another.
If you dont grasp this distinction I cant help you.
We have a valid case against Merck and the distribution of finasteride. Your theories regarding this sociopath and finasteride make this entire forum sound like a bunch of loonies.
This guy was simply a sociopath, PFS has nothing to do with it. Having PFS does not transform you into a sociopath. You either are one from the beginning or you arent.
Otherwise the medications side effects should read: You could turn into a mass murdering sociopath. Do you think thats reasonable? If yes, you make it hard for guys who are making valid claims to get their points accross.
This entire thread should be closed.
I did get your point. You are saying that impotence (something alot of males above 40 are suffering from), or the consumption of finasteride turns one into a sociopath.
I strongly reject this notion, and there is no evidence to suggest, that sufferers from serious illnesses across the world turn into sociopaths. This theory sounds like you guys are a bunch of loonies. Sry to be so harsh about this.
There is a world of differences between suicide and mass murder. If you cant wrap your head around the difference between A) being suicdal and B) being a sociopath and mass murderer, I cant help you.
sry the above posts are mine (notna posts). I accidently logged into my brothers account. 
Anyway. This thread should be shut down. These kinds of theories suggest a causal relationship between socipathic behaviour and finasteride, which is obviously ridiculous.
Even if he had PFS, it proves nothing, as mass murder and sociopathic behaviour cant be explained by PFS. Finasteride doesnt turn you into a psychopath.
If one thinks going through something like severe PFS couldn’t possibly send a normal and caring person into a fit of madness for several different reasons, they are out of their mind.
I intended to slam head-on into a coal truck at ~110mph with my neighbor and an ex-GF both in the car after learning that she was cheating on me because I “couldn’t fuck her like other guys”. …Her words. I wised-up, chickened-out, decided it wasn’t time to die, or whatever you want to call it at the last second without one thought being given about the other driver, or my passenger, in that moment. A circumstance that wouldn’t have happened if a pill hadn’t fucked up my life. Still a shameful part of my past.
The point being that Andreas Lubitz “may” have been a previously normal person turned into a psychopath by finasteride’s side effects, especially if he had no clue why his life was suddenly becoming Hell. He only had to completely lose his mind for as long as it took to send the plane into the ground. The question should be asked and the investigation should provide an answer as to whether or not he was on finasteride or suffering from PFS.
Could be a number of meds, fin, accutane, antidepressants etc, it needs to be ruled out by authorities.
Total bs sry. This is not a suicide. This is mass murder by a psychopath. To even suggest that this a side effect that happens in a statistically relevant number of PFS cases is absurd on its face.
Your story doesnt impress me either. Ok you had some sick thoughts, but there is a world of difference between a sick thought and execution of these thoughts. Just because you wanted to kill yourself in a distressing situation, doesnt mean that you can come on here and concort some bs stry, about how finasteride turns people into psychopaths. Get a grip.
The reason why you are normal and this german pilot was a sick fucker/ psychopath, is because you didnt kill anyone, and he just rammed 150 people into a mountain. Thats a slight distinction.
It really annoys me that you guys, want to abuse any attrocity for your anti finasteride campaign, which has merits without this behaviour. We dont need to claim that people turn into psychopath, its unfounded and doesnt help us.
And before you mention it: Believe me, I have been hit hard by PFS.