Jennifer Lopez and Alex Rodriguez Partner with Hims; Company Pushes Sertraline, Saw Palmetto and Finasteride on Social Media

Online Finasteride vendor Hims recently announced a partnership with music, TV and movie star Jennifer Lopez and her MLB star fiance Alex Rodriguez. The announcement video is here:

This is quite significant in that it is the first time (to my knowledge) that a majorly famous celebrity has become the face of a company whose bread and butter is in hair loss treatments, principally Finasteride and Minoxidil. JLo herself claims she has been using Minoxidil for years in this video. Whilst Finasteride is absent from the promo, the camera pans over a thickening shampoo “powered by Saw Palmetto”

What’s contained in the video will be unremarkable to unversed members of the public but given what we know about the destructive potential of antiandrogenic substances it is of course highly troubling. Dig deeper into their social media savvy marketing and you see them aggressively pushing antiandrogens across Twitter and Instagram





Sertraline

The company could at least argue that they are advertising Finasteride in line with what it is FDA approved for. The same cannot be said for their deeply disturbing marketing of the powerful SSRI anti depressant medication Sertraline, playfully advertised here as a casual treatment for premature ejaculation

The antidepressant is being sold in shiny, condom shaped packaging and is depicted in their “Premature Ejaculation Kit” advert with the woman holding the drug packet while the couple are under the sheets, presumably in a prelude to sex


They’re being referred to by Hims as “premature ejaculation pills”. This rebranding of a serious psychiatric medication into a take-when-you-need-it sex aid is made all the more odious by the company admitting on their own website that “Right now, there aren’t any medications specifically designed to treat premature ejaculation”


Sold in a recurring subscription model of 5 tablets per month, the product page advises “take a single dosage as needed 4-8 hours before having sex”

This is in direct contradiction to their own info page on SSRI use for premature ejaculation, which reports that studies show daily use of the drug for several consecutive weeks showed efficacy for treatment of premature ejaculation.

The very study that Hims link to as proof of Sertraline’s orgasm delaying potential outright states that Sertraline isn’t suitable to use on an “as-needed basis”


Single dosage use of Sertraline indicated on an “as needed” basis has absolutely no support in existing medical literature, neither for efficacy nor safety testing. Indeed, the “Important Safety Information” section on the Hims website states

Do not stop SERTRALINE without first talking to your healthcare provider. Stopping SERTRALINE may cause serious symptoms, including anxiety, irritability, high or low mood, feeling restless or sleepy; headache, sweating, nausea, dizziness; electric shock-like sensations, shaking, and confusion.

How a customer is supposed to not stop taking Sertraline when only 5 pills per month are prescribed is anyone’s guess. It is commonly accepted that SSRI medications are supposed to be used on a daily basis with a consistent dosing schedule and a primary clinician monitoring the patient.

Advertising

The company are using Millennial-centric marketing (memes, internet vernacular phrasing and emojis) in their social media advertising. The Jennifer Lopez partnership announcement appears next to one of the Sertraline ads on their Instagram feed


“Well I love his sense of humor, but what I really love is that he knows how to Fuck.”

Playing on the notion of “Sure, women say they love a man for his sense of humour, but really…” Hims target sexual performance anxieties to sell antidepressants and Viagra to young men in their cynical video ads.

They even have a video where seven of their employees sit and body shame Lebron James over his androgenetic alopecia, imploring him to get on Finasteride and Minoxidil to “fix that hairline as quickly as possible”



On Instagram, a bizarre and gratuitously misleading video depicts a gloved hand directing a stream of Finasteride into a completely bald man’s mouth, his scalp regrowing a full mane. Finasteride chiefly functions to retain existing hair; it cannot restore hair completely in the manner depicted in the advertisment.


Controversy

The promotion of Sertraline as a PE remedy and beta blockers sold as a spot fix for everyday anxiety has already generated some controversy. The New York Times reported on sites like Hims as “restaurant menu medicine” writing

“These companies operate in a regulatory vacuum that could increase public health risks, according to interviews with physicians, former federal health regulators and legal experts. And federal and state health laws, written to ensure competent medical care and drug safety, have not kept pace with online services, they say.”

Bloomberg stated that Hims were

“testing the boundaries of medical marketing, advertising prescription drugs for unapproved uses to college students”

Discussed on their news channel, one of Bloomberg’s presenters commented on what she described as the “grossness” of Hims’ “disease mongering” marketing

A Guardian opinion piece described Hims’ marketing of Sertraline to help “lengthen you and your partner’s sexy time” as “nauseating” and “‘Anxiety economy’ at its worst”


Propranolol Ad Scandal

Hims’ sister company Hers received substantial backlash against an advert they ran which proffered heart rate medication Propranolol as a solution to the nerves women might feel before a “big date”.



Reported on here https://fashionista.com/2019/03/digital-health-wellness-companies-government-regulations

The too-casual, somewhat reductive, highly-stylized journey from ad to cart caught the attention of influencer Yana Shept of @gelcream, who broadcasted screenshots — along with her candid distaste — to her 109k Instagram followers. The story was then picked up by @esteelaundry, an anonymous online collective known for calling out sketchy behavior in the beauty industry; and the rest, as they say, is history. The kind of history that lives on ad infinitum in Story Highlights.

“I saw it on Facebook and it immediately made me upset,” Shept, who has suffered from anxiety herself, tells Fashionista. “I was shocked by both the language and the ecstatic face of a model taking the pill. This is not a sweet pill; this is not the right way to market drugs.” She points to the fact that Propranolol is actually a beta-blocker intended to treat high blood pressure, its only FDA-approved use. However, some doctors, like the partners employed by Hers, prescribe it for off-label treatment of anxiety.

Shept’s audience was similarly alarmed — her Stories post elicited a response from nearly 10,000 people. “There is a huge difference between clinical anxiety and nerves,” one messaged. “As someone who takes propranolol for anxiety, I can’t believe this is a thing. Feeling nervous about a date is completely normal. I feel like this completely invalidates the fact I have been prescribed this medication for generalized anxiety,” said another.

It was reported on in various other outlets. Hims showed that they’re a company that will retract and apologise if enough of a stink is caused

Several semi-high follower Twitter accounts tweeted about Hims skirting around the edges of telemedicinal ethics


Hims CEO Andrew Dudum uploaded a video of him laughing at rapper Snoop Dogg telling the viewer to purchase Hims’ products so “ya dick can work”, a snort of almost cartoonish villainy given the sexual dysfunction that Finasteride and Sertraline can cause

The company has seen explosive and accelerated success in the short time since it launched

Never before has the market seen Finasteride, Saw Palmetto, Minoxidil and Sertraline marketed in such a way. The JLo partnership alone has already super charged Hims’ brand awareness (Hims and Hers combined Instagram followers: 125,000; JLo Instagram followers: 109 million. Hims and Hers combined Twitter followers: 3,500; JLo Twitter followers: 44 million).


An MD on Twitter recently remarked on Hims’ marketing nous and the “tons of users” that it attracts

Given their Millennial focused, restraint-free marketing of Finasteride, Saw Palmetto and Minoxidil and their attempt to reinvent an SSRI as a sexual performance drug, the company will almost certainly be responsible for a substantial increase in young men with what is currently termed PFS.

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An amazing post! You are a brilliant writer!

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Great post @Tzinkman. It’s very concerning to see the ways some modern companies are leveraging influence when their range of products contains substances that are a serious risk to the health of some people, and how the marketing can be so cavalier.

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Unbelievably disgusting. Expect this forum to get much busier.

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Look, they’re really helping us.

They won’t stop selling finasteride, let’s be honest.

There will be many more sick guys in the world and it will be much harder to close your eyes to the problem.

So let’s let everyone in the world advertise finasteride.

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Thank you for the kind words @Sibelio, they are appreciated.

Interestingly, a study you showcased in a recent thread, noting its manipulations and that it is still being used as a refutation of Post Finasteride Syndrome’s existence

is the same study that Hims are using on their page about Finasteride’s side effects, implying that the study somehow negates “flashy headlines circulating the internet”, stating

There’re some flashy headlines circulating the internet suggesting that taking finasteride will give you irreversible erectile dysfunction or kill your libido for good. While it is true that FDA issued a warning in 2012 that finasteride increases the risk of experiencing sexual side effects, including libido, ejaculation and orgasm disorders, those headlines don’t tell the full story.

This company is well aware of PFS and deliberately “strawmans” what might be the concerns of somebody thinking about taking Finasteride.

“Suggesting that taking Finasteride will give you irreversible erectile dysfunction or kill your libido for good”

is not something that we as a community of patients with PFS say; we say that it might do those things, and a lot, lot more, and that nobody can safely use the drug while the predisposition to the syndrome remains unknown.

“Flashy headlines”

Suggest to the reader “click bait” and therefore, dishonesty.

“Circulating the internet”

Suggests these are just stories told on the web, which is renowned for having a lot of BS and fake news presented as real news on it. Many of the PFS media stories aren’t just “circulating the internet”; they’re in mainstream print media in addition to an online article.

finasteride increases the risk of experiencing sexual side effects, including libido, ejaculation and orgasm disorders

Finasteride doesn’t “increase the risk of experiencing sexual side effects”, it is the risk. The way that’s phrased somehow subtly implies that Finasteride increases the chances of experiencing sexual dysfunction if it’s already there in somebody.

This straw manning can be seen elsewhere in their media. In their video titled " Ask hims: Can I have sex while taking finasteride?"





Google said I can’t have sex on Finasteride?

I’ve never seen anybody ask this question. This is a subversion of the very real warnings on sexual dysfunction that state what can happen as a result of using the drug. Even the Merck label now states that erectile dysfunction can persist in some men after the drug is withdrawn. It has nothing to do with “having sex while taking Finasteride”.

“Doctor Google MD is not always right and anything can write anything on Google”

Again, this is a crass attempt to dismiss legitimate medical literature that can be found online regarding Finasteride’s sexual side effects and straw manning it as “Doctor Google MD”. The intention is to reframe the consumer’s valid concerns on something they’ve read online about Fin as internet balderdash and baseless fuss.

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These online easy to get drug markets are proliferating. Wait til A-Rod gets PFS or JLo gets PSSD–then people will stand up and pay attention all over the nation!

I doubt any of them are using the products just advertising for profit

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I’ve commented on hims videos before and they will block and delete they are very well aware about the dangers just denying it

Anyone know how HIMS and similar “pharmacies” can operate legally, while shipments from those supposed “unsafe” grey-market online pharmacies have been confiscated and their funding choked-out by VISA, Master Card, AmEX, PAYPAL, etc…?

This isn’t a rhetorical question. I really can’t see how any part of HIMS’ operation is legal.

That ad is ridiculous. The people in the ad aren’t on Finasteride and will never have a need for it. I don’t care if one of them is a doctor (Or maybe she is just playing one for the ad), I have no use for their opinions when they know they’ll never have to risk side effects from the medication.

The video has 2 thumbs up to 18 thumbs down on YouTube so many people aren’t buying their no sides claims.

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:+1: :slight_smile:

Feel free to add your thumbs / comments here…

Just a note about adding the comments, if you guys are too aggressive and angry the comments will be deleted and ability to comment will likely be closed off. It is much more effective to inform and educate so people take you seriously. Otherwise you might come off as lacking credibility and that hurts all of us.

I’ve tried being nice on a few of there videos in the past doesn’t matter at all they don’t give a shit and I won’t either when I comment I’ll be aggressive to these pricks same goes for any goof doctors

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The person who manages the YouTube page is just some marketing person that handles their social media and is very unlikely to know anything about PFS. Their job is to make the company look good and not think about whether the criticisms are fair.

Being nice is good, but it’s not enough. Try saying XYZ is not up to date based on the latest scientific studies and then paste the latest study by Khera or Traish. You could also say that customers should be aware that Merck’s warning label from 2002 was recently discovered to not fully be accurate and it should matter when making their decision as to whether they want to treat hair loss (then post Reuters).

Using a tone that allows the other person to make up their own mind is often more effective. Once you show them one of the studies/reports, they are very likely to see things our way, but weak-minded people are generally scared if they feel you are forcing a view on them.

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HIMS and other companies employ legitimate licensed doctors who legally prescribe the drugs (most of them generic by the way). You don’t need to live in the same state as your HIMS doctor for him to treat (aka prescribe drugs to) you. You pay him/HIMS and voila!

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Still, they’re aggressively marketing off-label uses of SSRIs. I thought that was illegal AF.

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There are additional interesting angles to this story, some of which are perhaps covered in the links in the article.

  1. Are these companies breaking the law when they advertise drugs online? I live in Canada and as far as I know drug ads here are illegal. Yet, I see plenty of ads for finasteride on Reddit and elsewhere from Essential Clinic, which is a Canadian online pharmacy.

  2. Are these companies publishing the full FDA mandated drug information? Essential Clinic, about which I have written before, does not. Instead it publishes a drug information document which says nothing about persistent side effects.
    Online hairloss clinic conceals Finasteride side-effects

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Apparently, there have been recent changes to telemedicine laws which make a business model like Hims possible now when it couldn’t have been before

Hims’ basic business model also takes advantage of two relatively recent developments that have opened up huge opportunities in the world of direct-to-consumer healthcare. Changes in state telemedicine laws now allow customers across the U.S. to obtain prescription medicine without physically going to a doctor. Meanwhile, a handful of powerhouse drugs – Viagra, Rogaine, Propecia – are now available in cheap, generic form.

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