I mean I imagined that my test and particularly my free test would have been high bc even if I said that I’m almost not loosing hair anymore, my body hair still grows fast and my body fat % is extremely low as it always has been. Idk probably before this I had more T converted into Free T and DHT but who knows.
Btw I just finished a week on Augmentin without much improvement, now I’m gonna see my uro again to see if he suggest taking something else. Then next month I’m already getting rid of my varicocele, hoping it’s what is affecting my recovery. Tbh I found many posts on reddit about similar sexual issues caused by varicocele which resolved after surgery, even if ofc any doctor would disagree.
Guys, since I’ll have to decide in a couple weeks to go for varicocele surgery or not, I’m now trying to see if I can somehow improve and get results on my worst symptoms to rule out they have something to do with it.
These symptoms are:
low amount clumpy ejaculate;
some burning sensation when peeing;
low pleasure orgasm;
erections that can achieve 100% only after physical touch but still feel less thick at the base.
Most likely it’s all prostate related I’d say.
I’ve just started taking BORON, I’m probably gonna start CREATINE too today and I was about to order QUERCETIN.
I’ve read decent things about boron here but no miracles ofc (nothing negative tho), creatine I’m not too sure but I wanna try something that only raises DHT.
Quercetin seems really good for prostate inflammation, I read Cdnuts probably had some benefit but I haven’t see many reviews especially on its effect on sexual symptoms.
What do you think about these 3 supplements? And about QUERCETIN in particular?
It’s always the same, man.
Creatine has a history of crashing people, and like virtually anything that came with horror stories … it’s also linked to some major improvement in other users.
Quercetin is antiandrogenic if I’m not wrong.
EDIT: man, you quit the SP recently. Give it one years before messing up with supplements and treatments in general.
I’ve read someone improving shrinkage with quercetin so I don’t feel it can be defined universally as antiandrogenic, or at least it’s for sure not its main way of action. Also I don’t feel like I’m prone to crashes, I’ve never experienced them, I just have some inflammation down there that build up while I was on SP and it’s not going away. I definitely can’t afford to waist a year hoping it’s gonna disappear while till now it has only got worse
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I’m not here to tell you what to do.
But keep in mind that you could end up “wasting” a lot more than one year.
Non è necessario che una sostanza sia “principalmente” antiandrogena per causare effetti collaterali.
Un vecchio amministratore del sito ha sofferto un aggravamento della sua condizione utilizzando il Cardo Mariano (Milk Thistle), mentre un altro utente si è tolto la vita dopo aver assunto del resveratrolo, notoriamente antiandrogenico.
Solitamente gli effetti collaterali (anche a lungo periodo) del SP sono meno gravi, e tendono a migliorare con il tempo. Hai interrotto l’assunzione a febbraio, questo vuol dire che non sono passati neanche 6 mesi. Ci sono tutti i presupposti per pensare che tu possa guarire naturalmente. Prenditi un po’ di tempo, perché sarebbe un peccato incasinare la tua situazione con l’integratore sbagliato.
Guarda, capisco perfettamente quello che vuoi dire e anzi ti ringrazio che ti preoccupi che non faccia cazzate. Il fatto è che senza fare nulla non ho visto alcun segno di miglioramento e ora mi sento di dover prendere in mano la situazione, alla mia età anche solo un altro anno con questi sintomi non lo reggerei.
Poi c’è da dire che i miei sides non li vedo più come del tutto misteriosi, di fatto mi è venuta una cazzo di prostatite (ne più ne meno potrei dire) ed è ciò che sto cercando di trattare.
Per ogni integratore che considero leggo comunque ogni recensione e discussione che trovo su internet, sulla quercetina il poco che ho trovato mi è parso positivo…
Come preferisci.
Fai attenzione.
In bocca al lupo.
Quick update:
I just started cialis 5mg EOD, I’ve read its good for prostatitis too and in fact today, even tho my first dose yesterday evening was half a pill j to try, I have zero pain in my dick, abdomen and lower back which is great. I had one spontaneous too and no burning feeling while pissing.
My libido is decent, I’m taking some creatine (low dose) and 3mg boron daily but I don’t know about their effect, I feel more like it’s almost never been a critical symptom for me. I mean I definitely had very low libido for my standards for the past two month but it’s been more bc of depression for my situation and also bc I knew my dick has some issues lol. If I was able to distract myself it’d be fine I reckon. And btw I have to say that spending j half an hour on this site it’s pretty effective to kill libido and you all should consider this I think.
Anyway, my dick when erect has still less girth at the base and I’ve no idea what’s causing that and the same goes for my pathetic ejaculation. Atm these are my main problems. I wanted to try diflucan or a stronger antibiotic along w cialis but my urologist wouldn’t prescribe me anything else. So rn I’m hoping cialis is going to have an effect on these two issues too in some time.
Btw if u have prostate problems or even if not I feel like low dose cialis is almost a must in our case, I mean the generic (in pharmacy) is not even that expensive and of all the things we’re trying it’s probably the only thing that will have some positive effect on anyone. Going back it will be the first thing I would try and most probably I would be in a better place rn, particularly mentally.
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Last update for a while I think:
Till now Cialis has been the only thing w clear positive impact on my symptoms. 2.5 mg get rid of all prostate related pains that I had and of burning or weird sensation I had while peeing or ejaculating. This dose doesn’t give me any side effect but apparently it’s not enough to bring me back to 100% (still pretty low semen volume w some clumps and meh orgasms).
WITH 5mg THOUGH, I FEEL COMPLETELY NORMAL (except for the severe anxiety this condition has induced in me) FOR 3/4 DAYS. The only problem is that the day after I take 5mg I feel like I have the flu and also I wake up feeling some slight pressure in my eyes.
Beside this for the next 3 days my dick feels as it used to, erection feels fuller (old girth restored), I produce precum, fapping feels great and semen it’s no longer clumpy (idk about the amount bc when I was feeling like this I didn’t wait too long between 2 rounds lol)
Idk how to feel about this bc I can’t see it as a long term cure but still it’s good to know I can somehow reverse my symptoms.
I am gonna go on like this for a couple months then probably I’ll finally have a varicocelectomy which I had to postpone but I still want to be done. Hopefully I’ll be able to feel myself again in a relatively short time.
As for the fact that you do not consider cialis a cure, actually, as well as other PDE inhibitors + afrodisiacs it is actually considered a cure for many cases of ED if used long term. It is supposed to restart the system by allowing blood flow to gradually restore functionalities down there. Very diffused therapy among andrologists at least in Italy (I’m italian too).
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Yeah you’re right I should probably accept it as an actual cure. The fact is that I don’t really think it’s acting on the root problem, and the fact that I have to take it for who knows how long just to mask an uncured issue it’s scaring me
Maybe I wasn’t clear enough. I meant PDE inhibitors are considered therapies to literally CURE issues down there and after a period you are meant to definitely withdraw the PDE inhibitor. The point is to reinstate for long time enough a normale blood flow. This has the effect to oxygenate tissues and many other things and giving them health. I didn’t mean you should take them for the rest of your life. Tough if it works in our case it is to be evaluated. I am doing the therapy myself right now. Altough I am a pretty bad case since a lot of time.
While it’s not bad to look for a “cure”, I think it’s a long way until we find one.
In the meantime we are probably better off trying to maximize our quality of life through whatever means possible.
So if Cialis is helping to improve QoL my opinion is that it’s probably more benefits than negatives to be had from it.
This kind of therapy already cured a few here if I am not incorrect. Either way It’s been some time that I am on this therapy now, something like 1.5 months. Honestly this therapy gives me pretty rock hard erections without being on PDE. I only take half a pill of Viagra before bed and some classic supplements for sex life during the day. First days it doesn’t do much. But as time passes the situation gets better. I know I am not cured and in any case I would have to withdraw everything before saying something about that, but at this tme my erections are very strong and many orgasms are pretty strong too.
Apart from that, I always used Levitra on occasions where I have sex in the last years. Works pretty well. Cialis never convinced me, tough it has that long halflife.
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Bit of an update.
This past month I really tried not to think about pfs much and I’d say that I was able to enjoy my holidays.
Anyway I’m kinda of managing my symptoms rn but it’s still really a rollercoaster. I’m still taking really low dose cialis sporadically and Ive tried nystatin for 2/3 weeks and quercetin for a few days, with mixed results.
My situation right now:
GOOD: libido it’s definitely there, I’d say 75% and the missing 25% it’s probably not even pfs related but mostly just fear/anxiety from what I’ve been going through. Spontaneous erection are pretty frequent and I can even maintain them quite easily. Sometimes I get precum like I used to. Ive got short glimpses of normality (2 days max), which makes me hopeful.
NOT GOOD: orgasm pleasure, semen volume/consistency and penis girth are still off but also it fluctuates a lot. I still have basically no idea on what path should I follow to recover.
nystatin probably wasn’t doing much but I’m not sure, I wasn’t taking high doses as the ones who I read benefited from it. Anyway prostate/penis pains, which were already decreasing since starting cialis, have definitely been better while on and even post nystatin.
What gave me a short apparent full resolution of every symptom is quercetin. I started taking it as I was running out of nystatin and after 2 days of taking 2 capsules each of the NOW brand, I woke up very horny and I was horny for like 2 days during which I masturbated like 5 times lol, with great sensibility, fuller penis, great orgasms and ok cum.
Then it seemed like this was fading away and also I started getting greenish cum (exact color of the powder in the capsules, I read others had the same issue lol), I went on for another couple days and stopped, as I also got scared about the similarity with the start of my saw palmetto experience, same initial libido boost which seemed to be faiding soon.
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guys I really don’t wanna say things that I might have to take back in some time but Ive honestly been feeling decent recently.
I don’t wanna write lot, but something that has helped me a lot is PROBIOTIC L REUTERI.
I’ve had zero pains in the last 3 weeks since I started taking it. I’m also risking it all by being in a new relationship rn but I’ve to say that sexually I’m good enough. I probably still miss some sensation which delays my orgasms a bit and they are sometimes not super intense too, but still I can say that I’m pretty much back living my old life for now!!!
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Which L.Reuteri product are you using? Or which strain?
Hi guys it’s been quite a long time, I’ve finally found the time and the will to come back here to bring some positive news and hope.
I suggest you to read my previous messages to have the whole picture as I will try not to make it too long here.
Anyway I had pretty much only sexual side effects but I’ve been back living my normal life at 100% for more than a year now!! In September 2021 I started dating my current gf and in the first weeks I was still using like 2.5 mg cialis which I was sure was enough to make me perform. My libido, especially when with her and once I proved to my self that I could have normal sex, was already restored I’d say.
The problem was that I was still having moments of random pain in my dick and around my prostate, and orgasms weren’t always normal, especially when off cialis.
I remember now that I read it that I was positive about that probiotic but in the end it didn’t really solve those issues and I also stopped shortly after probably after experiencing some stomach pain.
After a few weeks I noticed that I was probably doing better after going randomly a few days without any coffee but anyway the date for my varicocelectomy was getting closer and although I was uncertain if it was gonna be worth it I ended up having it done. I’d say tho it didn’t directly result in any positive change so I do not suggest it, also given the fact that the pain after was definitely worse than expected.
After that I went on without any supplements, maybe I only finished some cialis left overs, and almost zero coffee for a bit and then I tried Damiana, first liquid then in capsules, and I’m pretty sure this, in both forms, helped me getting rid of all the remaining symptoms that I mentioned above and since it’s cheap I still take it from time to time. Regarding coffee I still drink it less than before just for precaution as I’m convinced it was holding me back from full recovery in the beginning.
So I definitely consider myself back to normal but to be completely honest I cannot say if I ever recovered completely from the little shrinkage I experienced, if it’s still partially there I think I’d be the only noticing it anyway and it’s not affecting my sexual life, it’s tough to say tho bc if it effectively reversed completely it was very gradual.
And lastly in the very rare cases in which I jerk off just out of boredom lol, so while not being very horny, I still experience a bit of chunky semen remembering me the old pfs days.
I didn’t manage to make it short in the end but to sum up what I suggest to anyone experiencing my past symptoms is:
Cialis (even very low dose);
as soon as u feel capable (and hopefully u should right away with cialis) try to have sex;
Damiana;
No coffee for sometime.
First 2/3 points were for sure key ones for me, combined with time.
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I can back the thing on coffee. I don’t think it’s all the story but I added that too to my healthy/nodrug/hiit/standing routine(read all this thread in case Probably cured from HF. A few things that helped me out, and I'm quite sure will help you too ) and I improved a lot I can say without a doubt. It came out I had also some sort of adrenal insufficiency. As I have been a daily coffee drinker(not much but every day at least one or two espresso) for a lot of time I think this might have some sort of prevention effect in the healing process. As I stopped coffe totally I restarted having vivid dreams, which was a deep joy for me as I wasn’t having a dream since a lot of time. Possibly this is also a sign of deeper sleep and possibly better nighttime healing processes. Also I don’t think coffee is healthy, despite there being a lot of scientific articles stating the opposite; I honestly think these are mostly bullshits to sell the drink.
I’m glad you are doing well too.