Insomnia 4 years after quitting Propecia

@scaredout what other symptoms do you have? we seem to have similar symptoms…

Damned digestion is terrible. Nausea, stomach cramps while sleeping, loss of muscle, low mood, no sex drive, etc. Generally I feel like im a dying person! Obviously remeron had a powerful effect on me and put me in a much better place. Weight gain is nothing compared to this hell. Ill be taking remeron from here on out. Nausea is already gone from one night.

Have you tried any natural supplements to help? Are you doing exercise? I’m scared of prescription meds these days, yeah they are a short term fix, but have the potential to leave us even more fucked.

I think I’ve just crashed 3 days ago. Funny thing an unrelated event caused my sleeping problem a month ago and don’t know if the stress caused my crash but now have trouble falling alseep and can’t stay asleep for more than 2 hours. Also losing muscle quick so don’t know what to do.

I am happy to say I slept great this week, it’s the first time in YEARS I am able to sleep properly ALL the days of the working week… I can’t emphasize enough how much of a difference in my mood this makes,in libido, motivation and energy.
I hope I keep having benefits this night and next weeks.

I am currently taking:
25mg trazodone -> been oscilating dosages and found 25mg to be enough. I’ve started trazodone on the 15th of January. Trazodone blocks half of the 5ht-2A serotonin receptors at 1mg, so I think that’s why!
800mg B9 Metafolin -> I’ve started this around the 5th of February
55mg zinc -> I’ve started this around the 5th of February
500mg to 1000mg Vitamin C -> I’ve started this around the 5th of February.
50mg B6 P5P -> I’ve started this around the 9th of February
250mg B12 Methylcobalamin -> I’ve started this around the 12th of February
5000IU to 15000IU Vitamin D3 -> I’ve started this last week.

Just a curiosity: It’s funny, I don’t feel the need to eat oranges anymore!! I was eating oranges all the time and I think it was since I started vitamin C I’ve been eating everything else and I’m not buying oranges…funny how your body tells you subtly what it needs…

On this weekend I drank 4 beers on friday and didn’t take trazodone on purpose: next day I was depressed, and slept bad. Saturday I didnt take it either and I slept bad too, although slightly better than friday…anyway, if this works, I’ll keep it up for at least 3 months.

Cheers guys, I’m very happy today! My sleep has only been this good 7 years ago, and after that only on weekends, holidays and when I quit my jobs due to exhaustion!!

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Hi Scared,
Do you think those symptoms are due to withdrawal from the Remeron? when did you stop taking it? Withdrawal usually occurs a week to a fortnight and may last for several weeks. The issues you describe are very common apparently when quitting the med. if you do think it may be withdrawal, perhaps ride it out for a while and see what is left when you plateau…or have you plateaued??

I m off for my endo appointment.

Crashed in december, then built myself up to a 12 day 100% recovery at the end of january/start of february then crashed a second time about 5 weeks ago. NOT HAPPY. A whole host of new symptoms including bouts of skull crushing depression. Off to see a shrink on saturday and may consider remeron if even just to put in the back pocket.

I get wild fluctations in all my symptoms. As i sit here i feel pretty much myself but this morning i was in a DARK place. Sleep is crap. When i get it I feel better when i don’t i feel shit.

Haha no man. Not even. In fact the longer I was off remeron the worse I got. I got close to feeling like I did after I crashed. Very familiar weak state. I cant accept a life like that. I will be on trt very soon. If thatdoesnt work, ill put a bullet in my brain and end this slow deterioration as im getting worse with time. This is frustrating I lose more muscle and look/feel more feminine. I wont tolerate it. Fuck this cold weather its driving me mad. This has been the longest hardest cruelest winter of my fucking life. Each day I drag this fucked up body around trying to convince myself not to die. Its getting old. I hang on to hope of getting better. Well, im not. Im getting worse. TRT or death. No living half a life anymore. I wont put up with it.

Id say this is probably the worst thing a man can experience. Feminized slowly over time against his will.

Taking this shit for 9 days has ruined my whole, entire fucking life. Each day I torment myself over the regeet of taking this. I couldve snorted heroine and had less long term damage. Fuck the FDA fuck Merck, fuck the dumbfuck doctors dishing this shit out to healthy men. 23 was the prime of my life. Now I feel like im 70. Lol I cant even take it seriously as I type this how rediculous my situation is. Only I could screw up this badly. Life really could not be worse. You could tell me I have terminal cancer and wouldnt bat an eye. I have no hope for life. Im dead inside and out. Only still breathing and pulse. Nothing more.

It is unbelievable. It still blows my mind that my life is so fucked now. It’s incomprehensible really. It’s like the shit lottery. I mean just how fucking unlucky do we have to be???

I really cant believe how hard life has become. By far the worst decision of my life. Why am I affected so badly after 2 years, I only took this crap for 9 days. Its totally ruined my life!

Yes i am the Same like you…
Fuck Merck and the FDa and all the Doctors…
Fuck this World…
I dont want to live anymore…
I know i talk a lot about Suicide…
But one DAY…
One Day…

My life is fucked. Period.

Gonna try small amount of trazodone. I took some last night and have had nocturnal erections and stronger libido today. Have to keep the dose low because it raises my blood pressure next day and gives me a headache. But its effects on libido are amazing. I know the fear of priapism but I dont have any concerns of this.

be carefull when you are trying drugs to treat your mood etc, and remember you can get some nasty sides from these drugs and name it on PFS. it is possible, think twice on prescription drugs because some of you used lots of hardcore drugs to treat thierselves.

for example clomid and arimidex has potantial post-permanent-sides like finasteride.

Trazodone amazingly is not only giving me nocturnal erections, im horny the next day. I feel it in my stomach and everything. Girls look yummy! Also my ball sack is fuller. This is crazy. Im keeping this drug as part of my regimine. It did this before too. Not sure why I didnt stick with it. Im only taking less than 25 mg.

Ive been telling over here for some months but it seems like people are afraid of priapiam as a aide effect, which is understabdble

How have you been feeling xp?

Top of the world if i sleep well.
Trazodone is not perfect but it helps.
I want to try uridine and cannabid oil…after that im out of ideas.