Well, two bad nights of no sleep and I feel dead. Literally like im dragging a dead body around. No emotions, complete apathy, misery, physical weakness. Umbelievable. But im experimenting to find a natural supplememtn that works for sleep. Found one the other day that works well. Going to take that tonight. Sleep= strength, libido, penis sensitivity, mentally well, energetic. My body is incapable now of sleeping thanks to propecia. I will struggle on to find the best sleep aid with minimum sode effects.
Tried ambien. I feel anxious and depressed. One more medicine that does not work.
I feel stuck in a corner with no more options.
I feel like im just going to quit trying so hard. Im going to take this natural supplement. If I dont sleep well I will just wake up and go about my day. whatever I give up. I scheduled an appointment w a sleep specialist. im so angry my sexual function seems to be getting worse and worse and there isnt a fucking thing I can do to fix it
Will try Melatonin 2mg + ZMA + GABA for this next week. If no improvement in libido im getting back on 7.5mg remeron. Much rather have sensitivity in penis. Good sleep always improves my libido. Also melatonin seems to increase my libido.
Im so tired of this disease. So tired of waking up feeling half dead and impotent.
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I must be grateful for progress ive made. Just to post some positivity here ill list improvements over 1.5 years: occasional strong libido with good sleep, low anxiety, less depression, no brain fog, no panic attacks, muscle strength, digestion greatly improved, sleep is relatively better, sobriety, spiritual growth, energy levels better, penis and balls somewhat bigger, I can get an erection with stimulation. Some things cycle up and down but I have alot of progress to be grateful for. Most of all im grateful to have these studies and hardworking people on our side. Im also grateful for the hope of the future and time.
Has zma had any negative results? Its making me sleep better but I wonder if its making me worse sexually which I kindof doubt.
I dont know why my libido and sensitivity has been so bad lately. Judging by my previous posts I felt nearly recovered sexually. I guess its time to get back on sleeping medication. How quickly I forget what I had on those meds. Better sleep is the answer. No supplements have given me the quality of sleep that I need.
Going to the doc tomorrow. Maybe seroquel or trazodone. Last time trazodone made my blood pressure go up. But once again my libido was pretty good. Im gonna have to settle for one of these sleeping pills they all have their side effects. But quality sleep is what makes me better all around. Im surprised many others on here havent had the same experience.
i just tried trazodone 12.5mg and even if i kept waking up the whole night, i woke up more refrehsed than usual. so in case ure having side effects from it, try 12.5mg or less…trazodone blocks 5-ht2a receptors even at 1mg. but don’t expect to be knocked out because at that dosage it wont be enough to block H1 receptors. You can though, expect better sleep efficiency I think.
all in all this seems to be the most inoquous pill i found
Hmm. Might have to try a low dose. I got the script but havent taken one yet. Still hoping my melatonin will be all I need.
Tonight im taking 50mg trazodone. Also id like to recommend a good natural product I have found. Search for “Body Calm Supreme” by neurogenetic solutions. For me personally, this gives me the deepest sleep outside of prescription meds. I might go back to it if I dont like trazodone. Contains passion flower, montmorency cherry tart, l theanine, GABA, and melatonin. I literally maybe only woke up 1 time. And ive tried almost every available natural sleep supplement in various combinations. Ill be keeping this if trazodone doesnt work.
Just an update after 4 nights of trazodone:
- I feel rested with trazodone and it seems to have reduced my awakenings. Now I wake up only once. I still wake up after 6 hours of sleep, the difference appears to be that after a couple of hours (maximum) of early morning awakening, I fall asleep again into a good sleep and not into a sleep/wake/sleep/wake pattern where I don’t rest.
- I feel calmer in the sense that I don’t have as much noise sensitivity: noises don’t bother me so much when falling asleep.
- Not sure what to think about it in terms of erections. First night I had extremely good reaction, bunch of nocturnal erections and very easily aroused when I woke up. 2nd and 3rd nights I didn’t rest as well so not very good…but tonight I felt nocturnal erections again and also easily aroused upon waking. No morning wood though.
- 1st,2nd and 3rd day I took 12.5mg a few hours before sleep + 12.5mg when I woke up in the early morning; on the 4th night I took the 25mg all together. I’m not sure I’ll be able to tolerate more than that because I had tried 50mg before, years ago, and didn’t go very well lol. I’ll keep pushing though and I hope eventually my early morning awakening will fade out like it once did for a few months with mirtazapine (it later returned…).
- I feel in a good social mood.
- I think I felt again a involuntary movement of my fingers/hand today as I fell asleep. On the other side, my eye twitching that I’ve been having for a few weeks, is greatly reduced after I introduced trazodone…
If this doesn’t work I’m gonna very slowly add venlafaxine in the morning, ER.
If this doesn’t cut it, I’ll try the mianserin but I think, from the receptor binding afinnity profile of this drug, I will have my much dreaded finger/limb spasms.
If still not working I’m going to try Pregabalin until a max of 75mg a night.
Meantime I’m going to try as well the Bvitamins I ordered.
I seem to have an anxiety issue.
I seem to react positively to 5HT2A serotonin antagonists. I haven’t tried an SSRI yet though, which is strange, considering this is first line of treatment for anxiety and no doctor have gave me one except my GP one month ago. They have been probably misdiagnosing me with primary insomnia when probably it is secondary to anxiety/depression.
I react positively too, libido, motivation and socially wise, to 5HT2C dopamine antagonists like agomelatine.
scaredoutofmymind can you please keep us posted too?
Here is an interesting article for you guys to read:
thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/01/ … _less.html
Which by the way, if you can, try Doxepin, ultra-low dose 1-6mg (check medication Silenor). I haven’t been able to tolerate it because of spasms but if you don’t have this issue, I think it’s better than Trazodone for every type of insomnia especially early morning awakening.
Good luck.
Ok im done with this. Looking at my old posts and remembering back, I felt pretty much recovered while on remeron. No need to suffer anymore. No results from 50mg trazodone. Ill tolerate weight gain. There are plenty of happy overweight people. Sure beats what im going through now. Not having feeling in my penis is enough to make me want to give up. I have to pick my battles here and be grateful weight gain is the only negative side effect of remeron. Ill be taking 7.5mg tonight. Plan on staying off the site a while and begin exercising again. This last month has been my worst since my crash. Cant ignore my huge decline sexually anymore. My gorl would rather me with 15lbs than have no libido what so ever.
Also, all this stress has pushed me to start smoking again. This has had terrible effects on my anxiety and sexual functioning. Obviously not recommended. I also need to stop masturbating so frequently. I do it to build confidence to know that I can have sex, but I know porn is not really helping my natural sex drive.
I tried doxepin. The anticholinergic effects were too strong. Felt like benadryl and made penile sensitivity worse. But was good sleep.
maybe you can try mianserin instead of remeron as it has a shorter half life?
i took remeron one year and i didnt gain ANY weight…but i exercised a lot and i tried not to eat any sweets