Insomnia 4 years after quitting Propecia

I’m taking mirtazapine again for a couple of days. First day is always a bitch, the second day i slept already great.
I have some mirapex at home and I’ll try it isntead of the clonazepam for the muscle spasms, as my doc thinks I have PLMD…may be linked to my juvenile epilepsy.

Yesterday I read studies from 2012 and 2013 on chronic insmonia: people with chronic insomnia have on average less 30% GABA than healthy sleepers. So there’s that, can be the reason why so many people sleep well with Gaba Analogues around here.

My next trial:
GABA+Taurine+L-theanine -> to feed my body and brain with gaba and stimulate glycine receptors
Glycine 3g a night + Gelsemium Sempervirens -> to work on the glycine receptors and to stimulate byosinthesis of allopregnanolone.

this stuff is all LINKED

I hope these studies conducted will shed light into these issues, not just ED. I’d like some answers as to why I can fucking sleep at night thanks to this poison.

Trying luminite from GNC tonight. Will give it a few days. Cant stand being fat from remeron. I have enough to worry about. I need every bit of confidence I can and being fat isnt helping.

Let us know if that will work out. I can’t take itr because I get muscle twitching from passionflower…figure that one out!!!

I’ve just ordered Gelsemium Sempervirens 5CH. Will let u know how it goes. It’s supposed to work very fast

Been on just melatonin last 3 days. Losing weight and sleeping okay. I will stick w this for a while.

I dont think the gelsemium was effective.
i tried it 3 days only though…ill keep using it until i finish the bottle

Has Trazadone been effecitive on treating sleep for anyone>? Right now I’m taking 20 mg of melatonin. It’s effect for light/weak sleep periods but that’s about it.
Also has anyone have bad constipation as a result of there sleep problems?

I had to stop trazodone bc it raised my blood pressure. Also it made me kindof ill feeling. Im on 3mg of melatonin for the past week. I am losing weight due to being off remeron. But I am also losing muscle mass that I put on this summer. I think it is because my sleep is not as good. But I will keep wroking out and giving it time. Im tired of switching sleep meds. Its consumed my life.

Trazadone works ok. I helps with falling asleep but it seems to wear off in about 5 hours. Ive tried taking another in the middle of the night, and that helps.

Iv’e tried many of different meds and by far remeron is the best. The weight gain does suck. One think I found that helps with that is to take a very tiny bit of remeron. It really doesn’t take much to help with sleep.

Yes i’ve heard a lot about the remeron weight gain. Is the weight gain mainly from increased appetite/hunger or do you naturally just gain weight no matter what you eat? I’m already struggling with weight gain due my hormones being fucked up from not sleeping and chronic constipation so i don’t want to get worse.

Yes remeron weight gain is definitely from increased appetite. It seems the higher dose=greater appetite. Its hard to always fight the increased appetite. I found if I keep my dose around 7mg or less, the urge to eat more, is more manageable.

So Hypothetically if you take remeroron and don’t increase your food intake then you probably won’t gain weight? Because for me just from not sleeping has made me much hungrier in general. At least if I take remorn and start sleeping normally again then that aspect of increased hunger should balance out. Also I feel that my insomnia problems have been contributing to my chronic constipation.

“So Hypothetically if you take remeroron and don’t increase your food intake then you probably won’t gain weight?”

Yes, that’s certainly what I found.

Well that’s good to know at least. I used to take Lexapro and that worked the same way.

Ok so I’ve been off remeron 12 days. What I’ve noticed is sleep is improving. I’m on melatonin 3mg and drink to go bedtime tea whichle really effective. But I am losing weight, which I wanted. But I’m also losing muscle mass. I guess it’s from lack of deep quality sleep this remeron gave me. I don’t know. But I’m not gonna throw the towel in yet. Going to the gym tomorrow. If this doesn’t work I want to try lunesta, restoril, or maybe ambien. But Its worth trying this natural stuff for a while. And I would recommend remeron over trazodone. This sounds crazy but trazodone made my blood pressure go up, and I felt weak on it. Remeron made me a little over weight but I was packing on muscle like I used to. And slept like a baby. it’s why I keep returning to it despite the weight gain.

On 3mg time release melatonin. Will stick w this for a while. Losing weight and feeling better about myself.

The main culprit of my insomnia was Zoloft. I now take it in the morning and take 3mg melatonin time released at night. I’m weaning off Zoloft. Went from 150 to 100 mg four days ago. I feel pretty bad, but my sex drive is through the roof! I mean seriously strong sex drive. 3 times a day if I wanted. I have been limiting myself. I know this is common following getting off an ssri. I will tough out the withdrawals and continue to get off this medication. It was apparently lowering sex drive, causing insomnia, and fatigue. But it did help with my mood a lot.

You were using Zoloft and Remeron at the same time? Aren’t they both Anti-depressants?

Yes. Remeron works great for depression.

Now taking doxipin. Dr says its similar to remeron. Still makes me hungry but not as strong as remeron. While I was off sleep meds my genitals felt more numb, muscles stiff and weak, low energy, low libido. Felt like crap pretty much. Now with just one good night of sleep on this new medicine im already feeling better. I now see the clear connection between most of my symptoms and quality of sleep.