Inflammatory Neuropathies: make the diagnosis

If you want to gain something in time, I would suggest to follow the advices on this website, apart from an antinflammatory diet and good sleep.
Using exercise to balance nervous system
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Everything I experienced until now, strongly tells me what is the path to heal at least in my condition. I didn’t have strong erections after withdrawing finasteride but I could have decent erections with stimulation. Then my uroligst touched my prostate with his finger and in the evening I ran and made some weight lifting. After that I was with complete ED and I my penis shrunk tremendously, maybe also because I was scaried who knows. This condition improved very slowly.
I didn’t have much improvement by forcing myself into exercise with wheights or running. In fact, after I was diagnosed with tachicardya (which is a marker of sympathetic nervous system hypertone) as a consequence of Dostinex, I started running and my heart rate was constantly at 160-170bpm while running. Sympathetic nervous system hypertone to my opinion is brought by reduce neurosteroids ALLO and THDOC which are anticonvulsive/anxiolytic/sedative, both centrally and peripherally. There wasn’t any particular improvement with exercise. I stopped exercise for a while and after that my condition improved far faster to an extent that my erections are now at 80-90%.
The experimental results and much of our stories fit with practically all the important theories on this website. Tough, everyone is different and it is clear that one can have one symptom of this neurological condition while the others don’t.
Esermon, you say that Testosterone gel made you worse. Someone reported, in the ALLO thread, that testosterone reduces ALLO itself, so it is not strange it made you worse, and made worse many others. You are probably severly depleted of allopregnanolone and/or you have a pudendal nerve inflammation condition going on as a result of this.

when did i say trt made me worse? I don’t think it did, i don’t think it helped me either. What are inverse kegels? An example of antiinflammatory diet? What should i eat and what should i avoid?

I searched but I couldn’t find your message. Probably It wasn’t you, but there was an Italian guy, maybe 40, who used testosterone after drinking the preceding evening. He said it brought him back to point 0. however it might have been a consequence of the alcohol. In fact Testosterone has mild antiinflammatory properties. This counteracts what mentioned in a study posted, that T decreases allopregnanolone. There’s nothing strange in this tough, to me at least.
As a matter of comparison, yesterday I drank and ate a LOT because of the birthday of my friend. Ciuchi mezzi. PLenty of simple sugars, carbs, and alchol. Today I’m pretty bad, and I felt my dick was about to shrink massively. Fortunately this didn’t happen much but it’s some kind of crash and it is fucking stupid to act like this, to withdraw gains in only one evening. ED is somewhat bad today, damn. This still confirms to me that there are inflammatory conditions going on and this is why we experience crashes. From what I know, chronic inflammation prevents the body from healing so if this is the case, by maybe a simplicistic point of view, we need to put it at rest in any way for long enough time to gain this healing. Healing that obviously can take pretty much long time even if you stimulate it.

You can find material over the internet on inverse kegels, also on PH I think. I know one exercise, you need to reproduce the contraction that you have when you intentionally stop the flux of urine while you’re peeing. I don’t do it tough, I don’t think there is evidence that this cannot be counterproductive.

Your last question is the million dollar one. There is a lot of controversies on this you know it. Looking at those that recovered with diet is a good idea. But there is plenty of things to read over the internet and many have different opinions. I am looking into this, it’s a hard task. Tough as I said chronic one day fasts or one meal fasts are very interesting because there is strong scientific evidence(to the contrary of prolonged fasts) in animals to support this, some less in humans because studies are pretty recent. I am posting a study where rats with spinal cord injury are getting healed with intermittent fasting. This tough doesn’t function in mice.

here viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7539&p=67017#p67017

imao alchol is bad but avoiding it doesn’t help a lot

about yrs i didnt touch a glass

it’s comprehensible, tough, stopping alcohol probably avoids getting worse and crashing, to some extent. I don’t see therapeutic effects in alcohl. It just gives some relief in the short term.

That is normal kegel for me, i’ve done it for months, i don’t know why but i think it worsens the condition, particularly ejaculation.

It might be, I stopped looking into kegels because I really don’t think it can be productive. What is needed is profound relaxation of all the pelvic muscles. When I do this I SEE there is really something strongly abnormal: my penis sometimes starts to contract in concussion (like if there is signal wanting to pass) while I relax the muscle at the base (bulbo-cavernosus muscle) and if I insist I can bring it back to normal but it turns back to the dead state after some time. Tough this brings slight improvement in the general condition each time and I really do not get back to point 0. This did gave me stable improvements. There is definetly the silencing of the dorsal nerves of the penis in my case but it can be attenuated in time. I think this can be done because of the somatization effect, which is indeed what this method is meant for. It probably increases the neurosteroid production in time. One rapid way to test this is to simply lay down, close your eyes, breath, relax and feel all the muscles of the body, particularly those of the pelvis and base of the penis, as if they are deeply heavy. If you don’t feel anything, you can focus the “heavy feeling” also along the muscles that surround the pudendal nerve (view figures). There is no mistery that some of us have retracted testicles; this is because our muscles are in continuous contraction because of the lack of neurosteroids. For the tescticles you can focus on the creamaster and the dartos muscle. What muscle is in contraction well, this depends on the patient. It might be one or all of 'em. Taking alfa blockers might not be a good idea because while they relax the muscles, they can bring inflammation because of the low neurosteroids; and inflammation can be really bad. The olistic manner is far more sure and standing. So I am now implementing this with IF.




about testicles i have the opposite problem, well it isn’t a problem for me, i don’t care about testicles now, my testicles are quite down, they should be higher and “fuller”, they are not retracted, they’re too down, but it really doesn’t matter now for me. Sometimes (well a bit more often then just sometimes) i feel premature ejaculation well let’s say almost every day and this premature ejaculation is born by a strange feeling i have at the base of the penis when it is erected, this feeling makes almost impossible for me to keep the penis erected for too long, i have the need to ejaculate as soon as my penis is erected and i think this feeling means there is something inflamed somewhere at the base of my penis.

I’ve done an EMG and a SSEP test today. There was nothing wrong with the nerves according to them. Now I have strong tinglings on the pelvic floor, on the scrotum, and at the tip of the penis. I also had strong contractions of the pelvic floor preceded by that tingling. If this is not neurological I don’t know what the hell this can be. They said me it could be urological…well, ok. So they told me to do an urodynamical exam. I can see only the prostate then as the source of the problem, or something is biochemically upset in the pudendal nerve. I can say in fact, my worst sexual problems started after my uro fingered my prostate. Then also the tinglings started after I used DHT to get rid of gyne (to no avail), and I read somewhere that androgens are not good when there are prostate problems. DHT also gave me a prostatitis with some fever. My tinglings worsen dramatically after I ejaculate. How an inflamed/destroyed prostate can give tinglings on the pelvic floor however is beyond my comprehension honestly. This condition is kind of stupid.

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If our nuerosteroid levels are super low then that is an obvious and simple explanantion for the pelvic floor tension, small hard flaccid penis, and other uro-genital issues.

Hopefully we will know the results from that study within the next 3 weeks…

Its all 100% neurological in cause. We will see this very soon. The “single bullet” theory as I like to call it.

Anyway, what I know is that I’m going to see a doctor for fasting pretty soon :laughing: . The “single bullet” therapy!!

You had a EMG/SSEP on the tip of your penis? If not, where was the test performed?
Also, when you first joined the forum you said you had no ED. When did that start, if at all?

The EMG ha been done on the pelvic floor, they told me to contract the anus and they performed some tests that honestly I don’t know what they are meant to do, like sticking a needle in my pelvic flloor, and for a moment they also placed something on my penis. The SSEP was performed applying two rings on my penis, and two electrical needles on my head. Then they started sending short and strong impulses and my penis felt those impulses at the tip. I believe the impulses are to test the electrical connection between my brain and my penis.

I stopped finasteride only because of gynecomastia, and because it was the only side effect I knew came from finasteride, as long as low libido and liquid semen. I conitnued the treatment because they told me these were completely reversible symptoms. However I had many problems in the preceding years that I connected to finasteride only after I subscribed to this site (my life was hell under finasteride expecially because of extreme anxiety). I also had ED sometimes during finasteride but I thought it was only fatigue. Also I remember during the treatment I had to change the way I stimulated myself manually, probably because my erections weren’t coming as hard as I wanted, but that was completely an automatic non rationale behavior. I completely lost my morning and spontaneous erections during finasteride treatment too. But this came probably quite slowly and that is one thing that if no one tells you about, you don’t notice. I didn’t know anything of finasteride side effects. But my sexual symptoms drastically worsend about 6 months after I withdrawn finasteride, I went to the uro because I was worried my spontaneous erections didn’t return. Then he fingered my prostate and in the evening I was completely impotent and my penis started to shrink to the point that I went to ER only to be loughed at. I was scared as hell. From that point till today I had really bad days. I’m doing decently well now, but it’s really fluctuating.

At the moment my ED is not bad, I get good erections. But I still don’t have spontaneous erections, neither normally under visual stimulation. Rarely in the morning when I wake and that’s all.

This what the report conclusion say:

Electromyography and electroneurography
-Cremasteric reflex in the norm; anal reflex in the norm; no deficit in the force in the musculature of the pelvic plane; no disturbances of the profound sensibilities.
CONCLUSIONS: The exam didn’t highlight signs of pregress neurogenic damage or in act in the musculature of the pelvic plane.
Normal the latency of the reflex of the bulbo-cavernosus.

SSEP
Pudendal nerve stimulation
Conclusions: Exam normal.

tab how much are the exams you did?

188€ all privately (intramoenia) but well the neurologist is a guy working on SLA so I think It’s a pretty fair price eventhought he was always in and out of the room letting me with his students (specializzandi).

Oh I forgot to say, they told me that, from the results, I should start/have an erection in about 30ms. Which is obviously not the case. So I guess that something is destroyed in my brain or something else, like prostate inflammation (today I ate pizza plenty of oil an things on it, my erection went pretty bad compared to the days when I eat raw).

Are any of these tests still valid. Thoughts @gents93