Im sick of it

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#1

You know Guys they are so much evidence that this Poison blocks this and that, messes with this and that, do this and that.

THEN WHY IN THE FUCKING MOTHERS EARTH DOCTORS ARE STILL NOT BELIEVE US AND TRUST MERCKS CRAPPY FAKE CRIMINAL STUDYS?

ARE THEY ALL FUCKING DUMB?Please Guys can somebody explain me this i dont understand this maybe i am to silly.Pleas somewone?

Im sick of it to be sick since 7 months and i mean dead sick. IM FUCKING SICK OF IT TO READ ALL THE HORRORSTORIES FROM THE POOR PEOPLE HERE.This is fucking unreal!!!We deserve to live our Lives and dont waste Time on Thousand of Theories and Supplements and Drugs.This is the Role of Merck and the Doctors not ours.

Im only a fucking secretary in a office and not a fucking scientist.

I hate Merck and yes i fucking hate Doctors i have visit so many Doctors and everytime the same old Shit.Its in your Head bla bla bla bla.Not only they cant help me they dont even try to help me.They let me slowly die.

Goddamit i want to fuck, to eat what i want,to drink alcohol, to masturbate without to be fucked the next 3 days, to live without fatigue and depressions and not to fast or take billions of Supplements and Drugs every day, with a Glimmer of Hope to be in 20 years 50% normal.We all lost so many Time on this Shit, is sensless.

I want my Body back, i want my Muscles back, my Bones, my Face, my Dick, my Personality.And i want my Age back i look and feel like 110 years old i dont even can take a Shit like normal People since 8 Months im chronically Constipated with a nice and constant Acid Reflux

WHAT THE FUCK WANT MERCK OF US???IM SO ANGRY AND AGGRESSIEVE LIKE NEVER AND NO ONE IN THIS WORLD BEFORE. IM READY TO KILL AND READY TO DIE

I dont can believe that we are Victims of fucking Criminals.

Fuck the Whore who has born you Kenneth ā€œSon of a Bitchā€ Frazier

FUCK IT FUCK IT FUCK IT FUCK IT

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#2

I, too, am tired of hearing about doctors who call PFS patients crazy; saying that the condition is all in their head.

Whatā€™s worse are the doctors who, in reaction to PFSā€™s existence, say something to the effect of, ā€œAw, thatā€™s just a bunch of scarey stories from the Internet. Donā€™t believe what you read on the Internet.ā€

Well, the next time any of you encounters such sentiment, please ā€“ PLEASE ā€“ tell the doctor to pull up this page:

pfsfoundation.org/media/

Then tell him/her, "On that list of PFS media reports from the past six years are some of the most reputable news outlets on the planet ā€“ like:

BBC News
ABC News
NBC News
CBS News
Bloomberg News
US News & World Report
Australian Financial Review
The Toronto Star
France TF1

ā€œWhat about THOSE reports? Are you telling me all those news organizations are knowingly spreading false information? If if they ARE doing that, why doesnā€™t Merck sue them for liable?ā€

Then sit there and refuse to leave his/her office until he/she answers. (Warning: It may be a long wait because he/she will have no answer.)

#3

The more contact I have with the medical ā€œprofessionā€ the less I think of them. My own GP keeps trying to push antidepressants on me even though Iā€™m not depressed. He is no better than a street drug pusher.

I wonder is part of the reason most doctors will not recognize PFS is because it would harm their career if they criticize merck or another big pharma company ?

#4

you know i told my Doctor i had weird Symptoms of this Drug and after i looked in the Internet i found that many Men have the same Sideffects but this Dumbass dont understand this

Excuse me but the Doctors in Germany are even worse then in USA they say Things like: Cmon the Americans are crazy and on Propeciahelp are only Men who try to sue Merck to make Money.I told him they are Men who want their Live back and not Money.

#5

Of course not he is a Piece of Shit like 95% off all Doctors when it go against Propecia

#6

We all have a very good reason to stay alive. So that we can fund research into this problem and invest in our own futures. Contribute whatever you are able, even if itā€™s a small amount. It is all useful and going towards scientific research of an exceptional caliber.

#7

Irwin Goldstein MD in San Diego, whom Iā€™ve talked with but havenā€™t yet seen, agrees 100% with us. I wonā€™t quote what he said to me, but IF any Md might have some effect trying different things, Iā€™d put my money on him. I donā€™t think he has a silver bullet but he ā€˜getsā€™ the full scope of whatā€™s happened to us.
theinstituteforsexualmedicine.co ā€¦ ldstein-md

On another note, even though this study was known before Propecia was approvedā€¦ itā€™s pretty damning in IMO still.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1283893

This is one study (along with others) that Iā€™ve brought into other MD appointments so far. There is no ā€˜safeā€™ amount of this poison.

Iā€™m equally sick of itā€¦ this is horrific movie without end.

#8

This is life. You can get lung cancer from smoking cigarettes or become quadriplegic or blind after a car accident. They will never ban cigarettes or alcohol or cars, and I donā€™t think they will take propecia off markets. The truth is, they donā€™t really care. The donā€™t give a fuck about me or you. We are just numbers to them. We are all here because we were scared of being imperfect so we used a drug to give us a head full of hair. We were insecure because of hairloss. Hairloss was not the real problem. Our insecurity was the real problem. The world that we live in is a very sick one.Lets try to learn to live with our insecurities and fears, so I suggest that we start learning how to live with PFS itself. I have been a sufferer for 8 years, and to be honest with you, I think there is no cure for us. Iā€™m not worried about the sexual side effects that we have as Iā€™m worried about the kidney problems and the brainfog that I have. That poison was strong that it caused damage in multiple organs. Iā€™m still 34 years old, have been suffering since I was 26 years old, and if I get anywhere near 80% recovered by the age of 40 I will consider myself lucky. I live my life. Iā€™m planning on getting to the point of financial freedom within 5 years and then retiring. Donā€™t make your life centered around PFS, because, guess what, no fucking person on this planet is perfect, and no body will give a flying shit about our problem.

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#9

genetix1, agreed. i donā€™t think if all the funds devoted ALL medical research nationally were redirected to ā€œusā€ā€¦ even that wouldnā€™t be enough to ā€œfixā€ us. thereā€™s no rewind switch on whatā€™s been damaged in countless ways. the whole thing would be laughable werenā€™t it so tragic.

#10

No one can say whether this problem can or cannot be fixed until we have some studies. So letā€™s focus on that.

#11

At the moment its our word against Mercks. Lets hope the studies give us some definite proof of our conditions, until then I wouldnā€™t expect any docs to believe us.

#12

Ok but if you smoke Cigarettes you know you can get Lung Cancer.

If you drive to fast with the Car against a Wall you know you can die.

If you drink too much Alcohol you know you can destroy your Liver.

But 100% of Men who took Propecia knew its a 2% Chance to have light sexualproblems who disappear after discountinue the Drug AND THATS A FUCKING LIE TO MAKE MONEY FROM US!!!
They make Money over our Lives these Psychopaths

I dont fucking accept that is was our fault that we developed PFS,never in my Life.

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#13

Exactly, itā€™s a poor comparison. How about instead imagining if a couple of dozen people became severely ill drinking coke, that stuff would be withdrawn from the shelves immediately. Here we are young men being chemically castrated because of something we took for our hair, itā€™s barbaric and only acceptable in this shit corporatist system.

It may be a medicine but it offers no health purpose at all and should never have been passed, not only because of PFS itself but the range and severity of side effects it is possible to temporarily suffer otherwise while on the drug. If people know the truth about it and say it should still be allowed on the market with a buyer beware they are fucking idiots or Merck apologists, if they say that and have PFS they are beyond help.

#14

And Hell even if we get Lungcancer, or a injurie from a car crash, or a damaged Liver from Alcohol,
Doctors still try to help and rescue.

But what are we get if we have PFS??
Antidepressants for a shrunken Dick, Brainfog,Musclewaste,Bonewaste,and and and and and?

My Life makes no Sense im asking myself why the Fuck i am still alive??

I dont have the Time and the Nerve to discuss Thousands of possible Treatments.
And im sure no one this Board have the Time or the Nerve.

I want to live and be happy like everyone here want to be.Like all we were before

IMAGINE WE WERE ALL PERFECT HEALTHY BEFORE THIS SHIT AND NOW WE ARE SICK IN MORE WAYS

I swear to God this Poison IS THE WORST DRUG ON THIS PLANET.

AND TO MAKE ONE POINT CLEAR FOR ALL OF US:

NO PROPECIA IS NOT MADE TO SHRUNK PROSTATES OR STOP HAIRLOSS
IT IS MADE TO DRIVE YOUNG MEN INTO SUICIDE
TO DESTROY FAMILYS
TO DESTROY FUTURES
TO TAKE HUSBANDS FROM THEYRE WIFES
TO TAKE FATHERS FROM THEYRE CHILDREN
TO TAKE SONS FROM THEYRE PARENTS
[b]TO MAKE YOUNG HEALTHY MEN IMPOTENT AND SICK LIKE A 130 OLD
TO MAKE YOUNG MEN BRAINDEAD
TO END SOCIAL LIFES
TO END FRIENDSHIPS
TO END RELATIONSSHIPS

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#15

Better to accept the situation and try and do all in your power to overcome it. Iā€™m fucked but with exercise and diet, recovery or at least improvement in well being is possible IMO.

#16

you know i have Big Respect for the People who accept this horrible Situation and live their Lives and fight against it.

But i personally cant handle this,maybe i am to weak.

I am to sad and angry to live in this Condition.
To be castrated.Even my Brain feels castrated

If i can get one of these Merckscumbags in my Hands, i would castrate them with my own Hands.

And every Shitty Doc who say this Poison is safe should take Propecia and say after that how wonderful it is.

#17

totally agree , Iā€™ve been dealing with it since 2008 ā€¦ when I was 20 by the way the german doctors are ignorant as fuck ā€¦
Iā€™m also from germany and I feel like Iā€™m from a third world country when it comes to a no clue diagnosis ā€¦
no awareness campaigne no help nothing ā€¦ and look here we are the second most visitors of the pfs-foundation site look at the google.trends ā€¦

pfsfoundation.org/news/natio ā€¦ e-29-2013/

boy I know how you feel , i canā€™t still accept my condition even after 5 years of this nightmareā€¦ but I still think itā€™s cureable because half a year ago all of a sudden I got a rock hardā€¦ when I can deal with it this long time you can it too , because when I was suffering for as long as you do there was no foundation no studies nothing ā€¦ now we can hope that the foundation make a breakthrough .
now in german : Im Ć¼brigen hƤtte ich niemals gedacht , dass so viele Deutsche auch davon betroffen sind , wenn du dir mal die Besucherzahl von oben im Link anguckst . Ich dachte hier wƤren nur Amerikaner und EnglƤnder hauptsƤchlich betroffen ā€¦

#18

I did not say that we should accept our situation, live with it, and do nothing about it. I see three specialists (Gastroenterologit, Urologist, and nephrologist) And a primary care doctor. Iā€™m actively seeking an answer. But none of those doctors know that my real problem is PFS. If I went and told them that I have PFS, I would have been dismissed and discredited. Iā€™m going to be fucking persistent until I get an answer to my problems. Iā€™m on it. But I donā€™t expect a cure. My best hope is to get 60% to 80% better. I will live with whatever problems I have and will face it, like a man. Iā€™m not afraid of my insecurities. I have a family and we are doing just fine.

I honestly donā€™t blame myself for taking Finasteride. I was fooled. I never thought a drug can fuck you for good. Even a hardcore poison was fucking safer than that. The few poor souls on this forum had something in common that predisposed to that reaction. I can not do scientific studies, so Iā€™m just tracking my own body problems. Hopefully, there will be an answer.

#19

All these doctors and specialists have proved almost useless, so I believe the only way to improve is to follow a cdnuts type protocol, exercise and diet.

#20

Same here, I was well familiar with sexual side effects because the antidepressant zoloft iā€™d been on and off, makes orgasm extremely difficult to reach, but the second one stops taking it this side effect vanishes. Iā€™d worked in an admin position for a psychiatrist as well, but permanent side effects never entered my mind. I blame myself for not looking deeper into the action of the Rx. In the back of my mind, I recall wondering ā€œGee, how do they get it to only affect the HAIR FOLLICLES?ā€ DUH, they freaking DIDNā€™T! We lose!