@Ozeph could I have the list or a link to it, thanks.
Sure. Itâs based on this article:
https://www.jacobsladdercenter.com/doc/research/other/How-to-Increase-GABA-and-Balance-Glutamate.pdf
Hereâs my condensate on this:
Take and do:
⢠Animal protein and fat
⢠Ketogenic diet favor GABA and GAD
⢠Mackerel has high GABA
⢠Eating Organic
⢠Taurine increase GAD and binds to GABA Rec.
⢠Magnesium (Also activates GABA Rec.)
⢠Zinc (no more than 40 mg)
⢠Probiotics
⢠Vitamin D (Easy on it)
⢠Vitamin K (leafy greens have huge amounts of it)
⢠Vitamin B6
⢠Lithium (I take only 2 mcg a day)
⢠Iodine
⢠Boron
⢠Chlorella Blue-Green Algae to detoxify
⢠5-HTP or Trytophan (these would help with depression and fear of crowds. They give confidence)
⢠Keeping blood sugar leveled
⢠Adequate Sleep
Donât Take, Donât do:
⢠Glycine
⢠Glutamate
⢠Glutamine
⢠Cysteine
⢠Theanine
⢠Casein (Cheese)
⢠Aspartame (sweetener)
⢠MSG
⢠Calcium (be careful)
⢠Glutathione (be careful)
⢠Beware of Candida guts and mouth infection (use mouth wash and take probiotics.)
⢠Sugar, whole grain, Starch
⢠Caffeine, Chocolate
⢠Food that spikes Insulin
⢠Artificial flavor, color, sweeteners, additives.
⢠Pesticide, Herbicide, Heavy Metals , perfume, dish soap, laundry soap
⢠Benzodiazepine
⢠Hydrolyzed food, creamers, Yeast, Collagen, Carragenine, Guar Gum or any Gum, chia seeds, Malt, Soy.
⢠Whey protein, Sport Protein Shake, Branch Chain Amino Acids.
⢠Processed Meat
⢠Tomato Juice
As weird as it may seem, I confirm that tomato juice (and tomatoes) make my sleep worst.
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Thanks @ozeph this is great, youâre very well read. Do you think fasting can help our GABA receptors? Iâve started doing 24 hour fasts. Dr Patrick has some good interviews on fasting https://www.youtube.com/user/FoundMyFitness/videos
Yes, according to what Iâve read it does. It also lowers cortisol and glutamate, both of which are excitatory.
I read it increases growth hormones, stem cells production (if I remember correctly and it was a surprise to me), creates new brain cell around the hyppocampus, crank up autophagy by 300-400%, which cleans up damaged cells, puts you in ketosis which creates beta hydroxybutyrate out of your fat and may reverse some type of epigenetic damage and finally increases the length of your cromosomeâs telemeres, effectvely reversing some of the effects of aging.
Fasting is really good. Search some of Thomas Delauerâs videos on youtube. Heâs all about ketogenetic and fasting and explains the science behind it.
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Donât forget CBD, has helped me sleep and helps anxiety
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You might want to try restrictive dieting. After a pfs crash, we may become more sensitive to inflamation and this may cause auto immune responses, one of which can be attacking gaba receptors.
Restrictive diet can be tricky as you have to find by trial anb error what creates inflamation. One way to do it is eat only meat, then introducing one item at a time and see if you react to it.
Meat usually does not create inflamation (well, seafood might). But you also get the benefits of ketosis.
You can start by adding white rice if you donât want to cut carbs, but this will spike your cortisol and may cause anxiety, if itâs one of your symptom.
Itâs just a suggestion.
You mean cbd oil from hemp ?
You get good results ?
I will try that if it helps with insomnia.
Full spectrum CBD hemp oil. Thereâs also CBD isolate but itâs not as helpful because it doesnât have the entourage effect of the full spectrum.
It worked so well one time that when I was walking around outside I became sleepy and had to head home. This was probably the only time Iâve âfelt sleepyâ other than when I took Klonopin last year.
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Confirmed: https://news.usc.edu/63669/fasting-triggers-stem-cell-regeneration-of-damaged-old-immune-system/
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This professor is a big believer in fasting to reduce ageing and does OMAD.
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Nice. I do it once a week, with a longer fast once a month. Not sure I could do it everyday (I mean one meal a day) but if I could I believe it would be beneficial.
I read nutritionists saying itâs not balance, it does not follow the government food chart etc⌠These people are so out there, orbiting reality from a distance. Check this out: quote âfasting MAY induce weight lossâ. What are the other options ? Fasting may induce weight gain ? Or you may keep the same weight while fasting ? Thatâs from a nutrionistâŚ
My sleep has generally improved after getting almost nothing at the start.
Recently itâs been the best itâs been. Perhaps coincidentally I have been exercising. I donât know if itâs worth trying or not but if you havenât, it might be worth it.
I am not very fit and do not do anything intense, which is the normal advice here. I walk at around 4.5mph for 20 minutes (on a treadmill with an incline that is set to increase and decrease every 2 minutes). I cycle for 20 minutes, again with an interval set and I row for 5 minutes. I walk half an hour to and from the gym and also do some weights. The whole circuit takes me around an hour, plus the hour of walking to and from.
I am normally covered in sweat by the end of it, but itâs more a cardio workout than a strength one.
Just a suggestion.
Would BHB help with emotional blunting?
In your opinion what would help with that side effect?
I didnât have fast results on that one but it did go away.
BHB is famous for brain clarity. Fasting is part of so many success stories, and it produces lots of BHB, it might help.
You can also consider water fasting on a regular basis. Iâm currently on a water fast and I do 25 hours once a week, 36-48 hours once a month and 60 hours once every 3 months.
L-Dopa and L-tyrosine as well as L-Tryptophan can be shortcuts to lessen neurological symptoms but I canât tell if itâs dose dependent or if it repairs anything.
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thanks.
you said L dopa was no good by itself before, correct? and to combine it with L-Tyrosine?
would N-A-C also help?
I donât know what is N-A-C, but you can take L-Dopa alone. Thereâs a risk of depleting serotonin (hence taking Tryptophan) but that risk is low if you eat healthy.
As for L-Tyrosine, it helps to clear brain fog, can also be depleted but you also donât have to take it. Itâs abundant in all meat, and so is Tryptophan by the way (in chicken and turkey, but also in cheese).
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What do you mean by l-tyrosine can also be depleted? The amino acid itself or serotonin?
hey man, i donât usually post here, but i saw your thread in an email notification and felt your pain my dude. i remember at one point after i took an overnight flight, i came back and was stuck in a loop of being unable to sleep. literally went 3 days with Z E R O sleep. shit was the worst experience of my life. i felt so fucked up and everytime i laid down my brain was wired.
i think what happens is that when you donât sleep at all, you become way more insulin sensitive, you can search online about how lack of sleep messes with your stress response, but everytime you donât sleep well, and then you eat sugar, your body doesnât process the sugar right and then gives you stress. so the cycle is you donât sleep, then the next day you have something that spikes your blood sugar, then you just feel mega stressed the entire day and that follows you to bed and you canât sleep.
so there are a few ways to attack this. first, do yourself a favor and go buy gelatin over at amazon. great lakes is a popular brand, in the orange bottle. gelatin is really high in glycine which gives a calming response and is a very potent sleep aid since glycine isnât an amino acid that is very high in other proteins. second, if you canât sleep at all, go zero sugar for the day (no carbs, no juice, etc) and then have a few servings of the gelatin and then go buy sleepytime tea. the best thing to do is if you boil kale in a glass pot with clean water (Bottled water), boil the veggies in it, then use the liquid of the kale and add the gelatin to it along with sleepy time tea, and donât sugar for the day, you will ZZZ off. this is how i managed to finally break the 3 day hell cycle.
no sugar over a long period is not good though, you need sugar for normal thyroid and metabolism function, just an FYI, but this is a good emergency thing to do if you have to and you are not sleeping at all.
after you get over that, youâre going to want to make sure you are hitting enough zinc everyday in your diet along with magnesium (use epsom salt soak for magnesium). zinc and magnesium are both depleted from high progesterone (propecia = very chemically similar to progesterone) and zinc is CRUCIAL for digestive function, like your pancreas literally needs it to make digestive enzymes, so you need to make sure you hit the daily requirement (do NOT go mega dosing or taking too much zinc, it will deplete copper if you take too much, just see what the amount is you need eveyrday via cronometer and then eat the food that has it inside of it). you can use oysters (like 2x a week, over that can be too much), beef is a good one. would stay away from supplements though, many are laced with other crap since it isnât regulated by FDA, food is the best bet. zinc also has no storage place in your body, your body doesnât retain it, so you need it everyday. e v e r y d a y, look it up on cronometer, you might be low. you want to make sure you are getting enough potassium everyday too, if you are low on potassium, it can spike your progesterone more, so use cronometer for that as well. calcium is also important to get, parmesan reggiano is the best cheese with no additives in it, but youâll get constipated if you donât get enough zinc or magnesium in your diet per the above recommendations.
check out raypeat for other diet related info on how stuff works and connects with each other.
good luck brother, peace.
wanted to add 1 more thing, if you are in bad enough state where you canât sleep, nofap/noporn is a given, your body cant handle it, avoid it at all costs until you feel better.
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While youâre here, can you fill out the survey?
Would help us all out a lot
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Anybody with with PFS/PAS/PSSD (and other related syndromes) should be extremely cautious about using such a product. A guy on another forum specified this exact product as the substance which brought about a severe worsening of his symptoms and the development of a host of new ones.
He stated how suicidal he was and he hasnât posted on that forum since last year. Another case of what works for one person being massively destructive to someone else.
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