I believe tribulus has cured me!

[crazy_sh]

@Trump_1776 are you still taking trib? Were there any lasting effects from your cycle(s)?

[mlhmatt]

Has anyone confirmed the Asparagus part of this thread? Seems like everyone went back to Tribulus, but asparagus or perhaps even asparagus extract could be another alternative, one that seemed to not give as many possible side effects or negative reactions.

[Invictus]

I took Asparagus powder extract a few years ago and when I used too much I crashed just like when I used too much tribulus. One guy got fucked pretty bad from Asparagus too.

[merlinm]

Hi there @Apr1989. I know this is quite old, but, I tried accessing the article on protodiocin but it requires an account or payment or something. Do you happen to have the pdf you coupd send me please? Thanks a lot

[Mr.Children]

Maybe many of us have positive reactions through tribulus,but it seems a few pfs"er" can recover perfectly through it.Men,who have a complete recovery,didn’t use only tribulus,but they integrated it into their protocols.
Now we first try tribulus(or Asparagus?),and follow OP’s.If you have improvements,you can step next.Then you should consider what you take.(We should select safer one this time)
We can do this repeatedly,and finally we must try to remove all supplements and to take some natural T/DHT/5ar etc block food(not SP,this is not food).I also will try tribulus.I will report at other April thread.

[Mr.Children]

Anyone has this kind of ideas?
It is interesting soys or these effects let tribulus reinforce more.
It seems reasonable.

@skorpio88

Maybe the dose youre taking is too high. The idea behind gradually ramping up the dosage is to get the body used to (gradually) increasing levels of androgens, not to overwhelm the body with massive, relatively sudden increases of androgens.

My own personal experience with tribulus is that I CAN tolerate 3+ pills of tribulus (I think we use the same kind btw, tribX-90, even if we dont the strengths and mgs are the same) however I respond better to a single pill of tribulus. Taking 3+ pills of tribulus doesnt really affect me in any way at all

That being said, in the past before I used soy I would get negative side effects by just taking a single pill of tribulus, I could only tolerate like 1/4 a pill of tribulus at the time. After doing a few cycles of soy I could comfortably take 3+ pills of tribulus with no negative side effects. My theory about this is that there are actually two things to consider here. First of all we have to consider “negative tolerance”, that is to say, we have to consider how much of a substance our body can take before we begin to experience negative side effects; the second thing to consider is how sensitive our body is to a given substance in terms of experiencing positive effects. Previously I was under the impression that “negative tolerance” and “positive sensitivity” were one and the same, but my experiments so far suggest otherwise.

For me currently, my negative tolerance has been decreased drastically by doing a few soy cycles (IE I can take 3+ pills of tribulus without experiencing any negative side effects) however my positive sensitivity to tribulus has not significantly increased. As I said before, I get optimal effects by just taking a single pill of tribulus and I get steadily decreasing benefits the higher I increase the dosage of tribulus. Therefore I have come to the conclusion that I have to separately focus on increasing androgen receptor sensitivity and that simply using soy alone is not sufficient to induce androgen receptor sensitivity.

As for increasing androgen receptor sensitivity I think the key to doing this is using “threshold dosing”. That is to say, we need to use the bare minimum of a substance to trigger an effect in the receptor and gradually increase the dosage from there. In order to do this, currently im using a pill cutter to cut the tribulus pills in half and trying out a dosing schedule that looks like this:

day 1: half a pill
day 2: half a pill
day 3: one pill
day 4: one pill
day 5: half a pill
day 6: none
day 7: half a pill

Its too early to say whether or not this will be effective, but I think its something worth experimenting with. Ideally I would like to cut the tribulus pills I have into fourths but this is impractical since the pill itself contains powder which obviously makes splitting the pill properly difficult. Previously I was trying this dosing schedule:

day 1: one pill
day 2: one pill
day 3: two pills
day 4: three pills
day 5: two pills
day 6: one pill
day 7: one pill

However the effects of this dosing schedule were just soso and ironically I noticed that the positive effects from the tribulus decreased as I increased the dosages. Like I previously suggested though, I think when it comes to increasing “positive sensitivity”, the key concept to keep in mind is that “less is more”, we are trying to gradually trigger the receptors, not overwhelm them

[grombrutus1122]

Hello, I have been looking for pfs for 3 years. I am currently taking welbutrins and if I ask for dopamine. I wanted to find out the name of this tribulus and this acetate. And yet, do you think that this acetate was necessary for recovery?

[andras33]

Seriously, this topic should be taken carefully!!!

I’ve been, and some other guys hit seriously by tribulus terrestris. If you are androgen intolerant, avoid this supp from a far distance

[Rb26dett]

Tribulus Terrestris destroied my life.

[propecia123]

Yeah, this syndrome is so different in each individual and everyone reacts differently to things like supplements etc. So obviously people have to be CAREFUL when taking things that mess with androgens.

I will say though that I’ve been taking Tribulus since January, and have had nothing but good results.

[Koranolio]

Hey man, what kind of results have you had? And what brand and dose are you on? Thanks.

[andras33]

How were your hormone blood works before and after trib if you had?

[RipLife]

I started getting prostate pains after 3 pills from vemoherb tribulus, not sure if its random or connected to tribulus?

[andras33]

This is how it began for me. I pray for you. But if you dont have penile shrinkage along, its not serious.

[Hayate2812]

Does anyone here know how I can order the exact Tribulus which OP mentioned ( Standard process) outside of the US?

[BibFortuna]

So how exactly do you figure out or know if you’re androgen intolerant?

[andras33]

By taking trib or anything thatcould raise your testo levels and if you get fcked by its sides, you prolly are amdrogen intolerant…russian roulette

[PFS25]

Tribulus doesn’t raise T enough , i believe thoses who crashed on it either used a bad brand (which countains other substances) or abused on it , i doubt that using good brands of bulgarian tribulus ( like mediherb or vemoherb) with a small dosage would cause any harm , although nothing is guaranteed of course

[andras33]

Who cares why it fcked me up. the fact it did fck me up, it could many more, as it did already. stay away

[PFS25]

Which brand of tribulus did you use ?