Who cares why it fcked me up. the fact it did fck me up, it could many more, as it did already. stay away
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Which brand of tribulus did you use ?
So, youāre saying that thereās no way of knowing if trib will fuck you up before taking it?
I took Vemoherb Tribulus and yes it worsened me after i quit. I think it is downregulated ARās.
Downregulated AR is what we want though right?
Im not really sure. If that was the case taking an another 5ar inhibitor again would cure us?
This is so true. I know this user is banned but excess cortisol will KILL any recovery. Iām developing ways for myself to suppress the killer hormones, excess testosterone (I had 895ng/dl in Dec 2019 - Not a good thing when your estrogen is 55pg/nl as well) and cortisol. Meditation is key here, not letting your anger or stress take over you is key here.
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In theory yes, but most of the recoveries come from agents that do the opposite.
I disagree. I think most people are recovering at least in part using anti androgenic substances.
You have posted this over and over. Why not try a bunch of different anti androgens if you are so confident about that?
I am. But Iām taking things slow, and itās not consistent yet. But this is the most Iāve improved in months. (Using St Johnās Wort)
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It would be interesting to know whether @MOONCHILD had visible penile changes (new dark purple prominent veins for instance) or his penis has visually alright. I am not sure whether those changes inhibit the recovery of erections.
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Damn this thread! It was what convinced me to try tribulus over 18 months ago, since then it has continued to deteriorate dramatically. Iāll probably die from this shit. Curse! I wish I wouldnāt have followed all these people who I believe had simple hormonal drops who come here to give hope to those who really suffer and in the naivety of despair they try sponsoring substances and become seriously ill!
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A personās response to treatment is no personal fault or triumph that they deserve to be chastised or glorified over. Same with another personās assessment of the risk of a treatment being worth it for them, or not. None of the other members should be treated as adversaries here.
Sorry @Rb26dett, our rules about treatment recommendations were not so heavily enforced in the past. Iāve also been burnt badly in the past by not weighing the risk of treatments with mostly positive and neutral anecdotes. I canāt blame those people for simply claiming they felt better in some way.
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I was also hurt by tribulus badly, though I think it has worsen me only temporarily. Tribulus has been takin into the list of anti-androgens by the propeciahelp web editors.
Our lessons proved to rather avoid trib for everyone suffering PFS
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@Dubya_B, My friend, you cannot imagine how much suffering I feel every day. I am seeing my brain deteriorate on a daily basis. I am now completely disabled, but I am not recognized as such and I have not been able to work for more than a year. Iām penniless and I canāt do it. Iāve forgotten everything I knew about my job. I lost my identity. I want to get better again. I donāt know what to do anymore, Iām desperate. I need help. I just want to get better cognitively. I donāt think about sex anymore. Why doesnāt this continuous worsening stop? Why do I have to suffer so much?
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Can you please share the brand name? Thanks so much for sharing your optimistic story!
Three years on, and many positive and negative experiments later, the best ( and hardest) thing for me has been to do nothing, and allow my body to try and find an equilibrium.
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