how many guys out there get bad sleep? most i would assume

Symptoms Physical
#41

Since my crash 4.5 months ago, I’ve had chronic insomnia to the point were I was originally prescribed tamazepam which worked for the first few days but then built a tolerance to them, then reverted to copious amounts of alcohol until I passed out.

For the past 7 weeks in the mental hospital I’ve taken zopiclone 7.5mg nightly to great affect with the exception of a few poor nights sleep.

My sleep hygiene is fucked since the first day of my crash. I’ve not yawned once since my crash.

I can run 8 miles daily and never feel naturally tired anymore.

Sleep is the worst of my non sexual side effects. I think good sleep is the answer to any good healing or hopes of recovery, fail at sleeping and our bodies will continue to crash.

#42

Hi,

Yes I take Zoloft at bedtime 8PM.

The antidepressant effects only comes after 4 weeks approx.

My sleep is still irregular, but recently it does have improved.

I suffer from other condition (exfoliative cheilitis, ie chronic peeling & pain of the lips) so maybe the antidepressant gives some relief in this matter, which helps also my sleep.

TIGERHILL, I think that the web is full of people reacting badly to ALL drugs. I wish you to get better.
In my case, the sexual side effects disappered after a year. Without knowing it, I made some kegel exercices.

Regards

#43

I recently went off sleep med. Next day I felt flat, spaced out, and like my brain wasnt working. I am positive deep sleep has aided in my mental recovery. I’m back on the med. I can’t speak for sexual sides, but mentally I’m sharp, clear, and crisp minded. I feel normal. Sleep is the cure for brainfog I believe.

#44

Also, sleep has given me energy. I felt the old fatigued feeling when I skipped the sleep pill. Of course I probably was also having rebound insomnia from taking a sleeping pill for 10 months. If and when I get off, I’ll have an adjustment period before I can judge whether I can sleep well or not.

#45

What sleeping pill are you taking?

#46

I’m taking 15mg remeron. Also I take 150 mg Zoloft. I really have had good progress lately. I hope it sustains. I would be careful about jumping on a sleeping pill. Get a good psychiatrist or physician. Be honest about your symptoms. We aren’t the only people with our set of symptoms, except the sexual problems. Remeron May make you gain weight like I did, because it gives u the munchies. But it has improved my life so much. I’m taking 18 hrs in college, have an internship, work out, will hopefully have a job soon, an have been LIVING life! The longer off propecia I am the more I accept it. I can believe I’m getting my life back! I was so close to suicide. Still I have problems, smaller balls, fat hips and belly, less sensitivity… but I have so many positives I can’t focus on my little problems. Sorry for rambling I don’t get on much anymore so I like to update people.

#47

I do definitely agree that sleep seems to be a cornerstone in my mental and physical symptom improvement. Sleep = energy, focus, sense of well being, etc. I don’t know if I’ll have to take a sleep pill the rest of my life. I know the dangers of this. But if it dramatically improves the quality of life, I will decide to take one that Is the most safe for long term use.

#48

There’s a sleeping pill that’s been working not to bad for me: clonazepam. The only problem is that it usually won’t work if I haven’t been working out or jogging during the day. And sometimes it lets me down even though I did everything right, and in these cases even doubling the dose won’t do it. Sleep changes everything for me too. In my case, I can only take sleeping pills every three or four days anyway because my body seems to be adapting to it and it stops working for a while once I used it. I was able to put my hands on alprazolam this week, but I haven’t try it yet. It has been mentioned here as something effective. My goal is just to have something I can use when things are getting out of hands.

#49

Man try trazodone. It is a good one. stay away from those benzodiazepines you mentioned. You will build a tolerance and they are not good for mental acuity.

#50

I did try trazodone a while back, and I didn’t even sleep a minute the night I took it, but I have to say that my situation was a lot worse at the time, so maybe it would work better if I ever gave it another chance. Clonazepam is actually not so bad when it works. The days after are usually the best days for me because I feel more calm and I’m more able to talk normally. And don’t forget that I only take it twice a week at most, so I don’t believe I will become tolerant to it. I wanna to try alprazolam because clonazepam lets me down once in a while, but if it makes me too groggy the next day, I’ll go back to clonazepam.

#51

Those who take alprazolam for sleep, what dose do you take? I took 0.25 mg yesterday without any effect. I actually had to take 6 beers with it to finally sleep. WTF!

#52

This can’t be real. How could my body still be this fucked up. I only took 10 days worth over a YEAR ago!!! I want my life back!!! I will never be young again the best years of my life are going by!! What in the fuck??? When do I wake up from this nightmare?!

#53

Sleep is definitely an issue for us. I have been using Gabapentin which increases stage 3 and stage 4 sleep.

This is what ‘ItHappens’ used at first when his sleep study proved he was not going into REM sleep. He then moved onto Xyrem.

Anyone who is having sleep issues should look at this thread:

http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1286