Paul hang in there things will get better.
Mark is correct, things will get better.
Never ever give up. Keep soldiering on.
If i can help you in any way, please PM me.
Let me say this straight: I don’t want you to commit suicide.
However, I fully understand your feelings. This poison turned me into someone else.
I’m now a different person. The only way to survive this poison is learning to live again as a different person.
dont give up man tigerschull,with all the foundation funded studies going on at the minute theres bound to be some kind of treatment for us in a few years time,i could barely get off the sofa my first year,now im able to train at the gym and go to work etc,its not easy but i get through it,you’ll definately feel better with time,look on the bright side you’ve only lost 6 months of your life upto now,ive lost six years and some on here have lost a lot more,i myself feel like death warmed up at the minute but i know it’ll pass,obviously pfs is devastating but you’ve got to accept what has happened to you and live with it for the time being atleast…
nah, he checked into this site today.
Yes Fina, I am still here by some miraculous chance. Thanks for been so observant!!!
I’d very much like to thank everybody else though that posted words of support.
Sunday night things turned ugly. I went to my local shops, bought 3 bottles of red wine, swallowed some sleeping tablets, then sent a text message to my ex, who phoned the Police, just as I was about to hang myself, they turned up and now I’m back to square one again, back in the mental home!
So what have I learnt, two things.
- Stay positive and don’t drink alcohol
Or
- Do it properly without any goodbye messages.
THETIGERSHULL you will get better with time. In the last few days I’ve felt better than anytime in the last 2 years even my arms are starting to get bigger. For the first time since PFS hit me I’m starting to believe that I can actually recover.
Its still early days for you after a year to 18 months off Finasteride you should feel alot better.
Just remember the lives you effect, man. I feel for you, we all do… But, you would have devastated some people close to you.
I’m very glad to see you back. I also have some interesting findings to share.
Went to see Dr. Goldstein at San Diego Sexual Medicine to review my 4th set of labs today.
He IS the foremost expert in the field of sex medicine, and author of many books/articles.
He said the ratio of T to DHT should be 1 to 1. And recommended boosting T injections once again, saying very high levels of T can improve the imbalanced ratio. Levels like 1300 to 1400. My ratio of T to DHT is current 3.08 to 1. So now I’m doing injections TWICE weekly of .60mg.
However, here is some potentially VERY GOOD NEWS which I ran across at the NIH when searching for T to DHT ratios…
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19741313
CREATINE supplement is proven to increase DHT considerably, even after switching to maintenance doses.
From the Link above:
RESULT: After 7 days of creatine loading, or a further 14 days of creatine maintenance dose, serum T levels did not change. However, levels of DHT increased by 56% after 7 days of creatine loading and remained 40% above baseline after 14 days maintenance (P < 0.001). The ratio of DHT:T also increased by 36% after 7 days creatine supplementation and remained elevated by 22% after the maintenance dose (P < 0.01).
CONCLUSIONS:
Creatine supplementation may, in part, act through an increased rate of conversion of T to DHT. Further investigation is warranted as a result of the high frequency of individuals using creatine supplementation and the long-term safety of alterations in circulating androgen composition.
I plan to cross post this to other parts of the forum to get more visibility, and to find out if anyone else has experienced Creatine being a benefit for PFS.
I’m on my way out the door… But did a quick search and picked a random post… This one person did not think it was a good idea.
Stick with option 1.
Things will get better for you, trust me on this.
P.S. Good to have you back on board
No offence man but you really need to take control. We’re all in the same situation, most of us will have gone through suicidal phases. But constant negativity and being a martyr does no-one any favours, least of all yourself.
To be taken seriously we need to be pragmatic and open minded to recovery.
I can sympathize but it isn’t fair to post suicidal fantasies on here when we’re all in a fragile position. Keep a strong head.
Can I suggest not reading this site for a while, there’s no ready made cure here. Also try a book like Cognitive Behaviour Therapy For Dummies.
One day you’ll be better squire.
Danny
I appreciate what your saying and if you don’t like what I post or find it depressing then I’d suggest you ignore my posts. You have no idea how badly ive been affected by propecia.
It’s ruined my life. 6 months ago, I was working and was happy.
Then on Thursday last week I absconded fro the mental home as I could not handle been in here any longer nor could I accept the changes to my body.
I was finally picked up and arrested by police and brought back into the mental home before I had chance to carry out my plan.
Unless you’ve been where I’m sitting I don’t think it’s fair to make some of the comments you’ve made.
After all, I’m simply updating my thread on here for my benefit and others who are interested to know how this poisonous pill had messed me up.
Also don’t forget that this is a public forum which is also used to spread and share awareness of how this pill had changed us. All my posts have been 100% honest and factual and I pray people taking propecia or considering taking it, read my posts, despite how doom and gloom they may be perceived, it’s written as its been happening to me, which in turn will show people how dangerous propecia is.
I know you mean no offence and non taken but I hope you can realise just how bad I am, this place is my outlet at times and I want to share my experiences of propecia to the world.
Well… I’m to try it alone again out the mental hospital this weekend.
Hope I can stay strong this time around.
I’m gonna stay on my anti depressant this time.
Avoid drinking alcohol alone.
yeah apologies for my last response, just a reflection of my own frustration rather than an indictment on you. genuinely hope you get all the support you need to get you back on your feet.
Guys
Just thought I would write to update you on my current situation.
Sleep has improved and no longer need to take sleeping pills.
I came out the mental home on 14-10-13 and so far so good in terms of my suicidal thoughts / acts.
I’m still taking Remeron - anti depressants (45mg) daily.
Sexually I’m totally fucked. Zero libido, still no erections and complete impotence.
Got really bad dry skin on my face.
Skin on my inner thighs itches like hell and I have a Brown coloured pigmentation on my thighs where it itches and it looks awful.
My penis is still shrunken and shrivelled.
Had bloods done 3 weeks ago and all were ok except testosterone which was still very low (12nmol)
The skin on my hands it very thin and can see veins clearly which it wasn’t like before.
My grip strength is terrible in fact I feel weak all over and still cannot gain muscle. I lost about 2 stone of muscle since taking propecia back in March this year.
Sometimes when I attempt to gain an erection my penis swells at the bottom and not at the head. It feels and looks awful.
I have no desire for sex or masturbation and I have no spontaneous or nocturnal erections.
If I could restore some of my sexual
Functioning I would be very happy and able to get on with my life.
Personally I don’t hold much hope though because of the physical changes that I’ve seen with my penis.
It feels lighter, has a big vein on right hand side
Skin is wrinkled and the top still has a rash appearance and overall my penis and balls look very small and dead. I have no feeling in my penis or balls.
Both completely numb.
Merry Christmas everybody.
Are you ready to listen now? I had ALL of that, at 1.5 years so much is getting better, I wake up feeling great, more energy, more zest, my memory is improving, my wit is back, starting to get almost dailey night time and am erections. This takes TIME, it takes a lot of time, slowly slowly slowly it improves. First year almost zero improvements, nearing 1.5 and 2 years things start to get moving
finatruth, you need to accept the fact that a lot of us do NOT get better, and if these things have happened for you, you should count yourself very, very lucky … i would rip my fucking cock off and eat it if i could get rid of the cognitive problems, it is ruining my life and seriously, it becomes sickening have to fake a smile for everyone else and being a totally fake human being
again, the improvements you describe are NOT universal, you need to understand that
len,you’re right there,im six years in and my sexual sides are worse than ever,ive had no sexual improvements in all that time, ive been through periods when ive improved mentally and ive felt and looked good,usually when ive been sticking to the gym and good diet etc,at the minute i feel and look like death warmed up,probably because i havent been to the gym for a few months and my diet has turned to shit coz ive been so busy,after christmas i plan to stick to a recovery plan,everything else can take a back seat,making money etc…