But how is it unrelated? The question “have you tried it?” is really asking whether the protocol works. And the answer can only be a “no”. To understand why this is obvious the fraud topic has to be explained. So I would say the post by ac3c and my answer is on topic.
I just wanted to jump in here.
@Go_Faster_Sonic - I think that you’ll probably appreciate Go that the subject of CDNuts is a bit of a red flag on this site. A very cogent argument has already been made that the guy appears to be a con man who has exploited a vulnerable community. I don’t dispute that myself. Your question is possibly whether despite this, is there any validity to any of his protocols? I feel that by bringing up CDNuts that the danger is that any thread will go down the proverbial rabbit hole as it is understandably quite an emotive subject as the guy appears a con artist. I think that it may prove difficult to have a debate with regards his protocol, so long as he is the author of it. I also feel that there is a danger in having any thread which references his protocol inadvertently legitimising a con man and could have members who are unaware of his history falling victim themselves. That’s why I feel that the naysayers comments should stand as a warning to the uninitiated. As a way of maintaining your questioning if you wish to continue asking about methods advocated by CDNuts then I would unpick the protocol from the author and present that to the forum so that he doesn’t get any further promotion. Although healthy debate should be encouraged, certain facts have already been set out with regards to CDNuts and I feel that as a forum we have a duty of care to our members. The debate has already been had to a great extent. And to everyone, CDNuts has already expended enough of our energies. Endless chatter from either side of the fence probably will end up just wearing everyone out. It’s best to have a debate without him. Expunge him from any protocol.
Question, Have you tried the CDnuts protocol?
Exactly. If you do a thread entitled “does trt, herbs, fasting and excercise cure PFS” as an example, I wouldnt even be posting, despite the answer being no.
If people want to try out stuff, have at it. It wont work however it at least wont promote a person that has been proven to be a fraud and that actively tries to destroy this community for his own financial benefit.
Question, Have you tried the CDnuts protocol?
Pvdl: I am not a friend of nuts, but your engagement against nuts is a bit pathetic.
Have you recovered at least partially? Or not? Are you waiting for the solutions presented by a company? If so, you know it will take at least several years.
You could also help ppl mentioning the things you have tried so far. Maybe you haven’t done anything and got better by time or you are stuck.
Plz, tell us, what symptoms got better or are you at the same level as four years ago? Thx
Cd nuts protocol is a lot easier than writing “did you try fasting, than applying a regimen made of cold showers, avoiding pornography and masturbation and xenoestrogens, paleo diet, supplementing vitamins and t-boosters, and carb-backloading?”
You’re plain crazy.
and what the hell is this bullshit? Thank god has been closed.
I do not love cd nuts and i do not hate him, i’m interested in the protocol, but you guys seem to hate him.
MY GOD, GO GET A LIFE!
OMG NO! My question is what it is! Is just that! have you tried that f****** protocol? Yes? If yes, how? how did you feel? etc etc…
I detest wasting my energy in these not smart conversations.
My purpose was to have a debate with others who attempted it AND I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK IF HE IS A FRAUD OR NOT BECAUSE THIS IS NOT MY QUESTION!
if you do not understand something so trivial you are stupid, guys.
thank you for frustrating my effort. frustrating my effort without even showing an alternative to the CDnuts protocol, BECAUSE THIS IS THE NAME OF THE F****** PROTOCOL!
I apologise for upsetting you Go and for not summarising your intent for the thread correctly, but I would appreciate some civility, despite your frustrations and high-handed assertions as to the intelligence of others involving yourselves in your thread, including myself. I was responding to multiple flags from yourself and I am sorry that you do not agree with the decision not to remove any posts which you believe off-topic, but I refer to my previous posts as to why I believe they should stay. As I said, I apologise for not feeding back to you the original intent of the thread, but in my defence it was very late and I was very tired, and I was finding this thread rather tiring in itself.
In the spirit of the thread I’ll remind everyone that Go wants feedback on anyone who has tried the protocol and doesn’t want the thread cluttered with discussion of whether CDNuts is a fraud or not.
We are all fallible Go, but this is a community and as such everyone deserves a fair hearing and to be respected. I don’t feel that you have demonstrated this yourself, although I can understand frustrations. Please try not to resort to name calling etc.
scot, i aplogize. when i wrote this part:
it was like i was thinking aloud, it was not against you but against the general nonsense of those answers.
and i do respect every decision of the staff.
but, as Dumbledore says in Harry Potter, i’m gonna call things with their name.
peace and love and speed
I went on a ketogenic diet after I noticed my anxiety attacks were linked to sugar. 3 months on the diet and I only had anxiety 2 times, when I cheated the diet. I’m also doing weight lifting.
I didn’t recover from pfd. But I’m feeling around 75% of what I was before propecia. The diet and exercise are great. maybe they don’t cure pfd, but by improving my general well being, it sure makes pfd more tolerable.
Sleep has slightly improved.
Same for sugar! I have terrible panic attacks on sugar, pasta, bread… i don’t eat them anymore.
what about fruit? do you eat it?
Plus I’m a business man. If I ever find a cure or a protocole to cure pfd, I can either spend my time making money with my businesses as usual (I don’t have extra time and I’m a 6 digit earner) and not share my findings with people in details because of lack of time, or I could choose to spend days and weeks working on a website in which case I would expect to be paid for my work.
From my point of viwe, CDnuts does have a need he can fulfill in a niche market. If he works hard, he can make descent money without becoming rich and help hundreds of people.
Fasting, eating paleo diet, exercising, plus a few specific hormone suplements and herbs… Hey, it’s alright to look good, feel better, be more healthy even if you’re not cured from pfs. Some relief is better than no relief. And what’s a guy to do: wait and complain or be proactive and fight it off ?
I don’t eat fruits, or even potatoes, corn or carrots… I take less than 10 gr of carbs a day.
I get all my energy from fat and protein.
Three months ago, I was having regular panic attack, anxiety to die for (like I can’t stand that for an extra day, let alone a week or a month, I would kill myself), at time I had speech slur, I had to carefully search my mind to find the words and compose a sentence, I couldn’t climb the stairs, couldn’t stand up for long and of course I was a zombie before 3pm.
After 3 months of exercise and diet, I can swim 40 laps non stop, do 100 set up, run up two flights of stair… the difference is huge.
No sugar or starch. No fruits. Are you Ok with fruits ?
I pretty much worked out sugar = anxiety. I had 2 chocolate truffles at the restaurant 3 weeks ago… and 3 days of anxiety as a result.
I had a cup of brown rice a week ago, couldn’t sleep that night and had anxiety the next day. I exercised to try and burn out all those dirty carbs out of my system.
well, is difficult to answer. as i wrote on my log about my efforts, my doctor prescribed me a 70% raw food, for now. is not only raw, is a sequential diet since i eat in this order: fruit > raw vegetables > steamed vegetables > a cooked dish (only at dinner).
he even prescribed me exercise.
at the moment, he doesn’t want to teel me exactly what to eat and what to avoid, he just wants me to be on this regimen.
returning to your question: i have problems at breakfast, this is for sure. At breakfast i only can eat fruit and raw nuts. Right after breakfast i don’t feel very well. First i feel muscle pain at my arms and then i feel something heavy in the stomach. this lasts for 15-20 minutes. Is it fruit? Or is it because i eat again after an entire night fasting? What do you think? I’m gonna ask the doctor btw.
Hi there @Ozeph - apologies for the can-shaking that I’m about to do - I think another name for charity collectors where you’re harassed in the street by manically friendly folk in charity branded raincoats with designs on your sort code to enable a direct debit are chuggers, a mash up of charity muggers. So, with rictus grin in place I noticed you mention that you are a 6 digit earner. I don’t know whether you have donated at all to the pfs foundation: https://www.pfsfoundation.org/donate/. It would be great if you could help out.
which fats do you eat? which proteins? also, do you eat organic? do you think is important to eat (for example) only organic meat?
I think it’s the carbon hydrates. I eat rib eye steaks, plenty of fat (like butter, lard, beef fat and spoonfuls of coconut oil (virgin). Fat is my main source of energy. I eat until I’m full and I get only two meals a day, at noon and before 6pm, then I fast for 18 hours.
All of this is painless and effortless, although the first two weeks were hard. especially the second day when the body is depleted of glycogen and begins the fat conversion, fasting process.
I lost 30 pounds and put on a lot of muscle. I am more focused and I don’t get tired before it’s bed time.
Honestly, I’m not proclaiming it’s a cure, but I heard the body fixes itself naturally after seven years. This diet and exercise, plus a few food supplement, will sure making those 7 years more pleasant.
You’r the first other pfs sufferer i speak too. It’s great to feel I’m not alone.
7 years? oh my god i hope it will be faster. my situation is so debilitating that i don’t work… i don’t study (i left university in february).
by the way, did you mean carbohydrates?
uh, my also also prescribed me to jump breakfast on every other days: those days are no good, i feel worse.